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Are there any rules for receiving new regs into 200s cartel(fe minimum amount of games and minimum ROI vs cartel)? Or it's just like in 100s cartel(voting decides)? Thanks for reply from 200s cartel member or someone genned up.

01-30-2014 , 05:29 PM

#303

Ziki6368

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 416

Definitely list the cartel members for transparency for everyone with pro cartel arguments

01-30-2014 , 05:56 PM

#304

Leondoro

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 64

Just posting here too, where are the lists with screennames of cartels. I think it should be public for many reasons..

01-30-2014 , 05:57 PM

#305

suprido

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polarized Bear

...Without acting hypers would die slowly due to the WLs getting longer, and longer....

= would die coz of sharky?

lol

01-30-2014 , 06:19 PM

#306

307th

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 215

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polarized Bear

Steps to getting into the groups:
1, don't cry on the forums and/or in chat
2, don't sit-decline
3, show willingness to fight
4, play well
5, show willingness to fight also after you get in
6, show willingness to improve your game

Yeah, probably it's bad for new players at the limit, or bumhunters, but if you're a hard working reg then it's gonna be good for you. Without acting hypers would die slowly due to the WLs getting longer, and longer.
It's a necessity... pretty strange, that most of the guys, who cry out their eyes in this, and the other thread are doing it w/o their SNs, or players who just doesn't deserve to be in, because they just wanna play recreationals and/or have big leaks, and don't wanna work on their game...

If "don't cry on the forums" means that criticizing the cartel could lead to you being not allowed in then it makes perfect sense that people who were criticizing it would want to post without their screennames...

Edit: Also if you're as a group sitting someone for thousands of games and then you expect that person to be polite to all of you for the entire time you're doing it, and if they are rude then they won't be allowed in, that's ridiculous. Some people have a problem with occasionally BMing people in chat, it's really not that big of a deal.

Last edited by 307th; 01-30-2014 at 06:30 PM.

01-30-2014 , 06:24 PM

#307

pavels4444

adept

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 949

Spoiler aleart - 99% longer term regs at 100s (60s)+ are in some sort of group (cartel). Everybody in or out at these stakes understands the reasons why they were created... (its not new, its just better organized with more members)

And its funny to see few 60s guys who complained how unethical 100s cartel was ... and suddenly, they are part of 60s cartel once it was created

01-30-2014 , 07:58 PM

#308

The Little Fish

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 355

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavels4444

Like this

I for one have never had so much motivation to grind at the tables and work hard on my game because of the cartel. I look forward to everything ahead and the cartel is not going to go away so just embrace it.

01-30-2014 , 08:09 PM

#309

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodiewiz

^ well what can they really do about it? Battlenet maybe. Hypers is the only format that can really be exploited like this. Wouldn't be possible in turbos. Obviously one soloutiin is too start a competing group of players.

Simple what can be done, a lobby where you sit and do not know who your opponent will be. I would sit it often. No need for any group organisation. You pay the stake your willing to win or lose and get thrown in against anyone. Is there a better way to prove who deserves to be at each stake? This is the most sensible solution yet it won't be agreed by the bum hunters/weak players playing above the stake they should be.

01-30-2014 , 08:13 PM

#310

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedevita

hey guys, I'm here to apologize to chos89 for my childish behaviour. There is no excuse for my actions and I will take full responsibility for the consequences. I want to make something really clear, the 60s+ cartels DO NOT condone in these type of actions and I'd also like to apologize to them for representing them in such a way. I will be stepping down as a leader from the 60s cartel and I really hope that my actions don't force me out of the 60s cartel altogether. Also, addressing CoreySteels post, yes I did scam people, all the information on that can be found on my blog: http://kidpokerslo.blogspot.com/ I have paid back a substantial amount of the money stolen and I WILL pay back the rest in due time. Once again, I'm sorry to everyone who has been affected by my actions, gl all!

- KidPokerSLO

hahah known multi scammer leads a cartel, what a surprise. Then makes a pathetic apology for selfish reasons, totally unremorseful. Pure scum

01-30-2014 , 08:19 PM

#311

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziki6368

The voting system is flawed, especially if the cartel has a cap. Why would you ever vote someone in and risk yourself being kicked out..

good point

01-30-2014 , 08:23 PM

#312

Polarized Bear

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 506

307th: No, critizizing is fine, but you can do politely, and as a constructive critizism, or whining just because you get sat. And it's only matter, because the last one shows weakness, and the fear of battling.
I like the idea of cleaning up the lobbies, and making the games better in the long term. I didn't like some choices at the 100s cartel (didn't play at 100s, so just as an outsider... played some games with lot of the members, and I'm not sure every one of them are deserve their place, but didn't play them in a long time, so who knows, maybe they're more willing to fight, and improve their game)

01-30-2014 , 08:26 PM

#313

none888

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,665

terrible idea, but whatever not gona happen

01-30-2014 , 08:26 PM

#314

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by genher

I try asking again:

if you think some regs don't deserve to be at a particular stakes you can set up sharky to sit them when they opensit. so...why do you need a cartel?

Good point. The reason they do not do this is because many are bumhunters pretending to be otherwise.

01-30-2014 , 08:29 PM

#315

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

Hey guys, please post under your actual usernames, not anonymous names. That goes both for people in these groups and people outside these groups.

If we're going to have a constructive discussion, people should be responsible for what they post, rather than effectively throwing stones at each other from the blind.

PM me if you need a deleted post's content sent to you so you can repost under your regular name, I can provide that no problem.

lots of people will not want to post under their pokerstars nickname thru fear of being put on an attack list. makes sense. I bet you have many friends in cartels who would love to put a few posters against what they are doing on attack list. Not saying that is why u said this. Just saying they will like revenge.

01-30-2014 , 08:35 PM

#316

Garlic yum

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3,066

Spoiler:

01-30-2014 , 08:38 PM

#317

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

if anybody wants cartel list message me here and I will pass on to them and the hit list. ChicoryROy how many people in cartels do you financially benefit from? You seem to post more than most on this thread. If you do not wish to mention fair enough, if you do though please be honest,

01-30-2014 , 08:52 PM

#318

kgbking

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 504

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavels4444

its funny to see few 60s guys who complained how unethical 100s cartel was ... and suddenly, they are part of 60s cartel once it was created

do they really have a choice tho ?

being outside the cartel is clearly -ev which as far as I know only mudda would pick

so there isn't really another option

01-30-2014 , 10:46 PM

#319

1anticartel1

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2

Below is the list of targeted players and then the cartel members.

Sit List

*nightmar879
0wn€d_h€h
a.opr14
aatttt
Acc3l3rati0n
agwin
AmStAf88
avvvvvvv
azn-ra
BadBoyJonnie
Barmy_Arnie
bjela1988
bobl124
bubiszon
c*Ive
CaptainCoola
Carteio
casado85
Chip10Leader
crissdepaiss
cSMasSacRe
czesiek20
DalconOpeaN
Davydenko123
DesmondDavid
dinnyo
djerikas
djleet1337
Doc Nemesis
Dodoubleg112
doomlich
el1337
elterion
F_____P800
f1reb411
FaceStealer
fedayn72
frasier0
gabry_00
gragik
grannyb88
gryghy
HappyBday33
Hilpe24
iamse
Ifoftw
ILOVEDOLLAR
JackOrsen72
Jensserrr
Kelyus
Kinch18
KingOfFilth
kobmish
*****chikdm
krespo89
krococos
laarsy
lambaaju
lbtrading
legerr
LittleMage
llyus
luckych08
LukaPotocar
LV_ZVEZDA
M4dLady
MainInstinct
malgaj
MastAAce08
McMarta
MikeShipik
molik44
Nadika90
Ndreyz
nico0503
noqqx
onetimeLUCK
opexcz
OshriAK
Osmonkulov
oxyzak
p0rsis
paisanoo06
PeakFactor
Phoenix264
pokerzysta90
pramuk88
progre69
qkareq
Rezzonans
RockOfKnives
RosoPwnd
RTICTM
s_slavyanov
saltsss
SashaKisya
sazkarik
SebiXXXX
sega1989
shedy23
Sheeeeep
skin1972
slickrick110
Speedpokah
spirem
Szszilard2
Terribadz
Terrorka
ticenl
tigtehoe1
TimmyOx
TROG-A1R
UnnBW
vidrar
vlekkentoven
vo0diZnoGo0d
VVahter
Winer76
Wrig90
Xexti
xxsmugmugxx
young_jedi76
YurkoPurko
zdekoc
zolta3d
zorzak

60 Regs in Cartel
Division A
Allingirl777
LEXA55
robertlauz
And9010
babavangaftp
chrissXES
ggarethh

Jazzzazz
koh1990
KQ69
lazzzydog
liquaaa
Longjohnfish
Mull84
muziekstuk
Pdogedog
pies589010
Svizec1
vinceraiz

Division B
proyeti
roctill7
HommeGazon
bajzator
Djemps
Fcslovacko
Frontbet
Goingbkup
Gumzzz
happyz9
Kaimac
futuring88
morph0
papi7o92
razvanel1987
RBN12
TradingHalt
TrankiNLvida
VusserixHU
TLD2008

Division C
BlueNowhere4
Tonnar
zillas33
alwayswin222
aurimelis
BlackStar255
Davidpet1
doodiewiz
evolution104
grindmachina
Karcsicsi
Marwan34
N'Doye #l4

Perfect*AV
theNr23
xJayH
tinpoutsises
5Rayfinkle5
24hourATM

Division D
axleska
sc47
skandr555
bia89#hu
bibibison
boogeewoogee
geo_all_in3
Ilich_77
ingenerftf
kirill1989pr
Moonblade555
nizzor_4
opotiki_whit
orsuab3rt
Pl@yerABC
Sashok_Kovel
severe262
tchor85
skendeloff
Ypsik

Division E
G0LDBracelet
Sir.Whiteman
zanas777
gedstak
harcur
Holdenper
Lucky_pazo
Marrco69
Mimomanas
Nemtommi
random_chu
requiem1989
rudemanuva
Stakelis24
titan_b
777scottish
v3lnias
xxxh0lic
yura_rnd
''72worm

$100 Reg Cartel Members

I0pka^^
0$kar15
1v@x
1yay1
A13X_J0neS
akawild
alloman
Andrex Puppy
arigoth
bizzar3
buriiy
Caivina
cog dis
cos909
Choqi
currrr14
Cybermitzu
Devil_is_HU
dl184
Don Björn
dontdoitlol
dthorne04
ediotfromne
fab-grrr
FCDplayer_PL
Felllony
Furkay
habis15
hneves182
hubober
ilovefcbarca
inna97979
jamni
JarmoH
jeffreyPL1
jonesbn
Josh_lee981
JstAplayer93
Kaspar0312
KGBKing
knutFH
kot_spartac
Legimantas
leo2222
Livestrong90
LOL_MATH
lucaslucas7
lykD
Magnum PI 79
majcy
Mass[sr]
masterscoop
mickop
mika007
mightmad
moolana93
mtvdeuem
mtvj1
_NiemeliN_
nedavniy
nikiforos
ninini12345
nitram99
none888
NOTSOGOOD
omaha4rollz
OMGLuys
orest11
pavels4444
Play2win$1kk
poulgreen
RoamusJoker
rollinas
sawweee
seboutchh
sksjohny
Spampanda
spilveni
spiritedreal
spl0dg3
TheCart3r
tinchoarce
Tmplr
Torg0th
Tvorogok
xHKLx
valuetownJL
xd0mme
zerotim

$200 reg cartel members

360flip019
Albierie
Atomfred
bubbleoutcas
captnkrnch
chainsawdonk
courtiebee
DFGHNAJKAFS
ekko1
fartojop33
giabest
HosniMubarak
huxjoeflow
ibavly
icevenom
jackteller77
Kyle Aiken
kvazara
millz_uk
Razenec
schultieboy
shkipe
spektah
Tiggrron
Ut Prosim
Vigilanty
walchy18
Ziroto
Elfosso

$300 Reg Cartel Members

147_star
the 1rake1
9|kim
A.Ryzhenkov
adamc1988
andrechuvak
b3tterways
bakudranski
bighusla
boomf
campbell-gee
chucknorrisq
emotionx
eric2441989
fishenzon
flippetyflop
Gorcsev
Ijustlold
IKSecret
Jammy26
Korpieworm
mavrickkk
n1fan
niceiq25
oljieha
pistons87
psychodelicx
qihu
rams85
rocmar87
samar4eg
san4ouz
sifosis
simpledude16
spacegravy
taikogod
u cnat spel
valuelol
viktorrz
whatisICM
wowkka
yovengo

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 01-31-2014 at 12:17 AM. Reason: edited out anonymous viewpoints

01-30-2014 , 10:56 PM

#320

kgbking

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 504

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1anticartel1

Lets be honest here, groups like these have people sharing data constantly.

we don't do this, at least not in 100s cartel. I can promise you that

01-30-2014 , 11:07 PM

#321

Pirus82

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 550

How many husng.com staked players are on the "sit list"?

01-30-2014 , 11:09 PM

#322

uivlis

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 65

such a big sit list

I think groups of people will always share data, but not one big 100 group of people, because it's too risky.
No sit list at 200 and 300?

01-30-2014 , 11:13 PM

#323

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgbking

we don't do this, at least not in 100s cartel. I can promise you that

Absolute nonsense I know this does happen. Don't try and insult people even further. Watched the NBC heads up today and that pathetic hastings was bragging about isildur win which he in effect cheated to get. No shame. This is just a smaller scale and people are learning from his mistakes

01-30-2014 , 11:14 PM

#324

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1anticartel1

I have not posted on here before and due the problems I will get by posting this I have not used my regular stars name as my forum name. I think this is totally unethical and it should not be allowed.

If people want to sit others that's fine but there should not be able groups of people hunting others. Lets be honest here, groups like these have people sharing data constantly. Stars cannot do anything to read peoples skypes to see whats been transferred to others but people in this list should have action taken against them.

Its disgusting that now people in this list dictate who can and cannot play at certain stakes. Anyone who is not in this group is unfairly hunted by a select amount of players. People in the cartel know full well that as long as they are in this group they are safe to play at these stakes with only a few regs challenging them back.

Below is the list of targeted players and then the cartel members. If this is not unethical then I expect my post not to be deleted. Why do people need to say contact me for the list when everyone is saying there is no problem in the cartel doing this? If there is no problem then they have nothing to hide.

Sit List

*nightmar879
0wn€d_h€h
a.opr14
aatttt
Acc3l3rati0n
agwin
AmStAf88
avvvvvvv
azn-ra
BadBoyJonnie
Barmy_Arnie
bjela1988
bobl124
bubiszon
c*Ive
CaptainCoola
Carteio
casado85
Chip10Leader
crissdepaiss
cSMasSacRe
czesiek20
DalconOpeaN
Davydenko123
DesmondDavid
dinnyo
djerikas
djleet1337
Doc Nemesis
Dodoubleg112
doomlich
el1337
elterion
F_____P800
f1reb411
FaceStealer
fedayn72
frasier0
gabry_00
gragik
grannyb88
gryghy
HappyBday33
Hilpe24
iamse
Ifoftw
ILOVEDOLLAR
JackOrsen72
Jensserrr
Kelyus
Kinch18
KingOfFilth
kobmish
*****chikdm
krespo89
krococos
laarsy
lambaaju
lbtrading
legerr
LittleMage
llyus
luckych08
LukaPotocar
LV_ZVEZDA
M4dLady
MainInstinct
malgaj
MastAAce08
McMarta
MikeShipik
molik44
Nadika90
Ndreyz
nico0503
noqqx
onetimeLUCK
opexcz
OshriAK
Osmonkulov
oxyzak
p0rsis
paisanoo06
PeakFactor
Phoenix264
pokerzysta90
pramuk88
progre69
qkareq
Rezzonans
RockOfKnives
RosoPwnd
RTICTM
s_slavyanov
saltsss
SashaKisya
sazkarik
SebiXXXX
sega1989
shedy23
Sheeeeep
skin1972
slickrick110
Speedpokah
spirem
Szszilard2
Terribadz
Terrorka
ticenl
tigtehoe1
TimmyOx
TROG-A1R
UnnBW
vidrar
vlekkentoven
vo0diZnoGo0d
VVahter
Winer76
Wrig90
Xexti
xxsmugmugxx
young_jedi76
YurkoPurko
zdekoc
zolta3d
zorzak

60 Regs in Cartel
Division A
Allingirl777
LEXA55
robertlauz
And9010
babavangaftp
chrissXES
ggarethh

Jazzzazz
koh1990
KQ69
lazzzydog
liquaaa
Longjohnfish
Mull84
muziekstuk
Pdogedog
pies589010
Svizec1
vinceraiz

Division B
proyeti
roctill7
HommeGazon
bajzator
Djemps
Fcslovacko
Frontbet
Goingbkup
Gumzzz
happyz9
Kaimac
futuring88
morph0
papi7o92
razvanel1987
RBN12
TradingHalt
TrankiNLvida
VusserixHU
TLD2008

Division C
BlueNowhere4
Tonnar
zillas33
alwayswin222
aurimelis
BlackStar255
Davidpet1
doodiewiz
evolution104
grindmachina
Karcsicsi
Marwan34
N'Doye #l4

Perfect*AV
theNr23
xJayH
tinpoutsises
5Rayfinkle5
24hourATM

Division D
axleska
sc47
skandr555
bia89#hu
bibibison
boogeewoogee
geo_all_in3
Ilich_77
ingenerftf
kirill1989pr
Moonblade555
nizzor_4
opotiki_whit
orsuab3rt
Pl@yerABC
Sashok_Kovel
severe262
tchor85
skendeloff
Ypsik

Division E
G0LDBracelet
Sir.Whiteman
zanas777
gedstak
harcur
Holdenper
Lucky_pazo
Marrco69
Mimomanas
Nemtommi
random_chu
requiem1989
rudemanuva
Stakelis24
titan_b
777scottish
v3lnias
xxxh0lic
yura_rnd
''72worm

$100 Reg Cartel Members

I0pka^^
0$kar15
1v@x
1yay1
A13X_J0neS
akawild
alloman
Andrex Puppy
arigoth
bizzar3
buriiy
Caivina
cog dis
cos909
Choqi
currrr14
Cybermitzu
Devil_is_HU
dl184
Don Björn
dontdoitlol
dthorne04
ediotfromne
fab-grrr
FCDplayer_PL
Felllony
Furkay
habis15
hneves182
hubober
ilovefcbarca
inna97979
jamni
JarmoH
jeffreyPL1
jonesbn
Josh_lee981
JstAplayer93
Kaspar0312
KGBKing
knutFH
kot_spartac
Legimantas
leo2222
Livestrong90
LOL_MATH
lucaslucas7
lykD
Magnum PI 79
majcy
Mass[sr]
masterscoop
mickop
mika007
mightmad
moolana93
mtvdeuem
mtvj1
_NiemeliN_
nedavniy
nikiforos
ninini12345
nitram99
none888
NOTSOGOOD
omaha4rollz
OMGLuys
orest11
pavels4444
Play2win$1kk
poulgreen
RoamusJoker
rollinas
sawweee
seboutchh
sksjohny
Spampanda
spilveni
spiritedreal
spl0dg3
TheCart3r
tinchoarce
Tmplr
Torg0th
Tvorogok
xHKLx
valuetownJL
xd0mme
zerotim

$200 reg cartel members

360flip019
Albierie
Atomfred
bubbleoutcas
captnkrnch
chainsawdonk
courtiebee
DFGHNAJKAFS
ekko1
fartojop33
giabest
HosniMubarak
huxjoeflow
ibavly
icevenom
jackteller77
Kyle Aiken
kvazara
millz_uk
Razenec
schultieboy
shkipe
spektah
Tiggrron
Ut Prosim
Vigilanty
walchy18
Ziroto
Elfosso

$300 Reg Cartel Members

147_star
the 1rake1
9|kim
A.Ryzhenkov
adamc1988
andrechuvak
b3tterways
bakudranski
bighusla
boomf
campbell-gee
chucknorrisq
emotionx
eric2441989
fishenzon
flippetyflop
Gorcsev
Ijustlold
IKSecret
Jammy26
Korpieworm
mavrickkk
n1fan
niceiq25
oljieha
pistons87
psychodelicx
qihu
rams85
rocmar87
samar4eg
san4ouz
sifosis
simpledude16
spacegravy
taikogod
u cnat spel
valuelol
viktorrz
whatisICM
wowkka
yovengo

How often does this list get updated? Can you send private message please explaining to me some more thanks

01-30-2014 , 11:16 PM

#325

Punterz!!

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirus82

How many husng.com staked players are on the "sit list"?

I asked this already in a roundabout way seeing as he has posted more on this thread than anybody else! However I understand if for financial reasons he does not want to answer. I'm not sure how that works with the tax man in USA.

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