Looks like a lot of good decisions if you ask me.

Sharkscope is allowed: No player profitability data (i.e. ROI, net profit, etc.) may be displayed on any player unless
they have explicitly opted into such display

Looks like sharkystrator is fine aswell:
For example, the following types of table selection and seating script tools would be permitted:
• Selection tools that utilise playing statistics from a collection of hands the end-user
personally participated
• Registrations scripts that are based on user-defined preferences or player note labels

Spinwiz is not allowed by the looks at it.

Don't link pages - link a specific post. You say Page 184, to me there are only 28 pages in that thread.

However, poster above is refering to the new top-secret pokerstars document their reps are either unwilling or banned from publicly posting about. Results of bribery and or negotiations are simply enacted as a change to a PDF on the Stars server with no announcement or fanfare.

New in the version visible today (no Idea how long it's been the case, sorry - didn't check since reading the original thing - see above re: no announcements of changes)

So yeah, looks like SpinWiz is toast. Sharky seems fine, since specific tables can indeed be selected.

Yes - and players CAN "register to a specific table" in HUSNGs

Hi guys, i recently started using pt4 for my spin n go tracking.
Can i see all games i played against one specific reg?If yes how?
Thanks a lot

Select that reg as 'the active player' (Hero) instead of your own screen name. All his games that will be displayed were vs you. Whenever his hole cards are known, they will be shown (you might want to set the filter 'went to showdown', though looking at his lines in non-showdown hands can be beneficial too, is just more boring).

There's also the 'Hero vs Villain' report option (that can be chosen instead of 'Overview' in the 'View Stats' -> 'Results' section), but it's less convenient because it shows your hole cards in the hand list instead of his.

It shows some stats unique to this mode like the number of chips won from you (= the number of chips won by him minus the number of chips won by you in those pots where you both invested chips), but you'll get the same (well, inverse, to be exact) result if you select that reg as Hero and look up his stats vs you as Villain.

Thanks a lot!

Hi guys! Im just testing the spin and go and i have two questions...

1. How many tournaments are ok to know u are a good roi winning player? For instance, in cash 100k hands is ok to have an idea of ur winrate. In spins...?

2. I heard they r gonna forbid spin wiz, is that true? Is it worthy to play high spins without table selection? :S

1) 10k spins will show you a pretty true reading but depends how many tables you play etc, id say that as a min for a accurate reading

2) i have no idea could be good for some and bad for others, its completely random if it goes so its 'fair' people who game selceted hard will need to adapt or perish, ive never played higher than $30s tho so cant comment from experience sure one of the HS spinners will answer better

GLGL

1. It depends a lot on what ROI you deem good. See the rules of thumb in the second half of this post of mine. Even the first 1K games can give you a good idea on whether your ROI with VIP rewards is positive at all. The more games the better, but as your ROI isn't static (you improve and so do opponents), check your chip EV for the last month (or two) only if you're a full-time grinder.

2. The ban of SpinWiz is actually a good news for beginners / people who're new to the format because they won't be selected / targeted by strong regs any longer - they'll be getting the same opposition on average as the sharks who used to have almost a monopoly on bumhunting.

For Supernova Elite's sake, though (if it's saved in the 2016 VIP program at all), it's not necessary to play 100s at all or 60s at peak hours; start by playing 30s at peak and 60s (or 30s too while the BR is lower than $15K-20K) off peak and you'll be fine.

Great news IMO. My favorite part about spins was the lack of lobby watching/player avoiding etc. losing Wiz will hurt everyone winning pre-rb quite a bit but in the long run the fish go broke slower and everyone has to play the same amount vs regs.

wut, spinwiz banned, meh, someone plz make a spinwiz prog that doesnt queue ppl so i can still enjoy the time-settings/game settings and autoregger

That seems doable even by means of AutoHotKey, but I really cba to deal with customers other than myself (i.e. troubleshoot and notify them of every update).

Game settings can be made manually: you can just put a piece of paper on the table and count Spins with the good old librarians' method:



Time can be dealt with using a mindfulness bell

Edit: and it goes without saying that MOV EAX himself can dumb the existing SpinWiz code down so that it do only what you've requested, and start selling it for $5 lifetime, it's hardly worth more now.

Stars realize people are making money pre r/b in spins without having to hit the huge multipliers, they can't really put the rake up any higher as it is already too high relative to the other games they spread. Only thing they can do is try and keep the money in the eco system longer by banning wiz so more of it is eaten up by rake. Good business strategy, lousy loyalty to customers.

Why can't they? It's not like anyone will do anything about it

However, tools that are based on a prohibited data source or are targeted towards either playing
against or avoiding specific players in game offerings whereby they are unable to select or
register to a specific table are prohibited.

This seems to ban Sharky

However then they say tools that are based in player notes are allowed
I find this contradicting , if sharky is allowed then spinwizz should be reprogrammed so it uses player note coloring

that way seems its fine by stars , im still not sure i assume they will publish a list

You can't see player list in lobby when registering in Spins So color notes doesn't make any sense in registarion process.

I would love to see spinwiz been kicked out of the money pool or have at least another competitor for their share. They are monopolist and been acting as such.

I also admire the great idea and the decent tool they are offering but without them the game will shift in the right direction making it more competitive, which should benefit the hard working Regs.

Maybe , i dont know how it works

I mean sharky puts opponents on a list also waiting , sits players

This to me is the same thing i dont see any logic in bannin 1 prog
and allowing another without being extremely hiphocryte.

Given the fact that without Wizz stars will earn much more monies I hope we can at least expect some rake decrease

In HUSNG you know who is waiting in the lobby, cause you can see it. In Spins you only know it cause Wiz users tell you (via software functionality). How difficult is this difference to grasp?

Yes, along with an improved VIP programme to make up for the fact that it will become more difficult to make SNE

absolutely this
funny that they introduced spins with less rake, then increased it after 2 months and now are trying to rape the regs once again
the chip ev drop for manureggers gonna be epic for sne grinders in the next weeks. on the other hand more rake for stars and in the longterm some bad regs will go broke or quit and fish could lose less per game
unless some stables prog new tools the change should make things fairer for the better regs (but lol@5% rake) and in the longterm for the ecosystem

Wait... do you say that Wiz was so ineffective (moving the queue slower than games were filling up in Stars' lobby) that manureggers of 30s+ weren't doomed to run into two Wiz users in the vast majority of their games?

are targeted towards either playing
against or avoiding specific players in game offerings whereby they are unable to select or
register to a specific table are prohibited.

Do u understand if this is hypocrisy ?

Banning spinwizz and allowing sharky is like sayn

So u can avoid or select specific players in games where u see lobby

U cant in games u dont.

Here in this format u can chase fish , relentelsssy , please sit them 5000 times per day dont leave then even breathe

Now in this format u cannot do it because you cant see the lobby.

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I don't really care if it's hypocrisy. I merely point out that this is indeed what they are saying. Quite clearly at that.