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10-22-2009 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw006
lol welcome back Captain douchebag. fwiw, im not a "yank" as u put it.

And Nathan is 100% correct, you have no idea champion.
Captain Douchebag? WTF are u, pathetic or something?

Don't tell me i have no idea, when you have no idea about me
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10-22-2009 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
I've been break even over a period of 2 weeks (500 games) and although at some point during that "downswing", i felt like crying.. suck out after suck out, i fully accept full responsibility for those bad results.

I wasn't getting unlucky over 500 games.

So i stepped up my game and analysed/improved.
You do realise that sometimes its literally impossible to win? Like no matter how well you play you lose? Once you experience this, then BOOM -hax -cheer you can come back here and get back on that high horse and tell us all how good you are!
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10-22-2009 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
Captain Douchebag? WTF are u, pathetic or something?

Don't tell me i have no idea, when you have no idea about me
Well Capt.

Im not a "yank" as u pt it and i dont think theres anything wrong with being american anyways. So dont make assumptions when u have no idea about me.

Thanks Capt.
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10-22-2009 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
i asked that question last night and a few yanks started getting defensive about their own personal situation (typical) and offensive about me (im doing just fine ppl).
..tyty for a constructive answer.

Fwiw, i fully agree with what you said. Too many people on this site blame "variance". My understanding of it from my own POV is primarily as you said it: too much 'bad or marginal play'.
Hä?

Your understanding of "it" (variance, downswing) is primarly 'bad or marginal play'?

Maybe im feeding the troll here, but I will try it and give a "constructive" answer:

A downswing is when you roll out a dice 1000 times and just get a six 90 times. It's the bad side of variance.

And believe me: your dice doesnt make marginal plays nor is he emotionaly affected.

And: of course a downswing can influence your game, but this doesnt affect your downswing, it affects your results (and the probability of bigger variance).

Why shouldn't I blame variance? I played the superturbos some time ago, this means push-fold from the very beginning. So the most important luckfactor in these is all-in-ev. I was running near 100BI below All-In EV. Why shouldnt I "blame" variance and consider me unlucky if a proven 99.99% of all players are running better than me? I still know it doesnt change anything, but I still think why tf are all these guys more lucky than me? As long as this doesnt affect the game i feel its ok.

Coming from switzerland, I'm (per definition) completely neutral, and believe me: from a neutral standpoint, you look much more douchey as all the dumb ("yanks" or not) hu-regs who posted...
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10-22-2009 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by r1tony
My apologies yes.. nice hand sir.

Does anyone know where to get these cards? they just look too awesome, i've been searching and googleing for a while now but i just can't find these
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10-22-2009 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw006
You do realise that sometimes its literally impossible to win? Like no matter how well you play you lose? Once you experience this, then BOOM -hax -cheer you can come back here and get back on that high horse and tell us all how good you are!
Listen i've played over 4000 games mate.. so yes i have experienced this, day in: day out. I'm not bragging how good i am. Far from it. My point was, and still is, too many people blame variance for their bad results.
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10-22-2009 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by itami19
Does anyone know where to get these cards? they just look too awesome, i've been searching and googleing for a while now but i just can't find these
The guy who postet them made them himself. Just PM him.
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10-22-2009 , 09:02 AM
posting from i-phone

wray is your sn zakwray?
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10-22-2009 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
I've been break even over a period of 2 weeks (500 games) and although at some point during that "downswing", i felt like crying.. suck out after suck out, i fully accept full responsibility for those bad results.

I wasn't getting unlucky over 500 games.

So i stepped up my game and analysed/improved.
[] downswing
[] anthing close to a downswing
[x] super std

its just very niave of you to say its not variance your playing bad or w.e u have said when you havent come close to being in his posistion, also ofc matt knows he obv not playing his best who is when stuff like occurs so it just pisses people off when you come in here and lecture him about stuff you really dont know
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10-22-2009 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
Listen i've played over 4000 games mate.. so yes i have experienced this, day in: day out. I'm not bragging how good i am. Far from it. My point was, and still is, too many people blame variance for their bad results.
OK mate. Well if your so experienced (which i doubt) please stop posting whine hands like omg my AQ lost to AT etc. I never blamed bad variance for my bad results in my post when u decided to be captain douchebag to me. Quite the opposite really, and i was posting to help someone else out not to really discuss the fact that i have been getting raped for the last 2 weeks.
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10-22-2009 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by All_or_Nothing
posting from i-phone

wray is your sn zakwray?
yer?
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10-22-2009 , 09:10 AM
move up please
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10-22-2009 , 09:12 AM
dude wtf
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10-22-2009 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw006
OK mate. Well if your so experienced (which i doubt) please stop posting whine hands like omg my AQ lost to AT etc. I never blamed bad variance for my bad results in my post when u decided to be captain douchebag to me. Quite the opposite really, and i was posting to help someone else out not to really discuss the fact that i have been getting raped for the last 2 weeks.
You doubt? What so I'm lying about the amount of games i've played now rofl? And i'm not sure why you keep bring AQ vs AT into it, like whoppie.. i won't bother posting any sh*t on here if it just get's thrown back in your face. Not going to say anything else on the matter.
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10-22-2009 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by All_or_Nothing
move up please
huh?
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10-22-2009 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
You doubt? What so I'm lying about the amount of games i've played now rofl? And i'm not sure why you keep bring AQ vs AT into it, like whoppie.. i won't bother posting any sh*t on here if it just get's thrown back in your face. Not going to say anything else on the matter.
huh? First time i mentioned it fwiw.

Maybe your lying idk. But i went for my first 8k+ games before experiencing anything like this. Obv some will see it earlier, some will never see it. Ive never wished it upon anybody, but for the sake of this argument i hope you have to go through it so you can truly ACTUALLY understand what variance is.
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10-22-2009 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by All_or_Nothing
move up please
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
huh?
I think he means move up because as im moving down due to my bad play, you can show me how good you are?
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10-22-2009 , 09:31 AM
No i was gona say that i'd sit him and show him what variance is

-hax
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10-22-2009 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by All_or_Nothing
No i was gona say that i'd sit him and show him what variance is

-hax
You Poms. Your all the same.
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10-22-2009 , 09:34 AM
Mr Wray what they are trying to say is that the term "variance" can mean alot of things.

if you see variance as a normal distribution with x = standard deviation. and y = ev of something.
2.5% of that population will experience a variance of (y - 2x) mjw006 could be in that 2.5% of ****ed up variance right now. You could have experienced some variance in the form of downsings or break-even stretches. But it doesnt mean you experienced the variance hes experiencing.

I do agree with you with the fact people shouldnt blame everything on variance, I do not agree that you just randomly throw that term to mjw006. What gives you the right to talk about/how do you know his situation?
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10-22-2009 , 09:34 AM
Nah you're okay, I'm happy where I am currently, MJW.. i never said i was good, don't deflect it onto my game, i haven't got an ego.

I've got a basic but effective game. I never said anything else. What you said about the 8000 games, okay, I accept maybe I am being naive. Maybe, in "X" amount of time, i get F**Ked all over, over a period of time, and i'll come running back saying - ya know what, you were right..
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10-22-2009 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Milkyway
Mr Wray what they are trying to say is that the term "variance" can mean alot of things.

if you see variance as a normal distribution with x = standard deviation. and y = ev of something.
2.5% of that population will experience a variance of (y - 2x) mjw006 could be in that 2.5% of ****ed up variance right now. You could have experienced some variance in the form of downsings or break-even stretches. But it doesnt mean you experienced the variance hes experiencing.

I do agree with you with the fact people shouldnt blame everything on variance, I do not agree that you just randomly throw that term to mjw006. What gives you the right to talk about/how do you know his situation?
It was 100% not intended directly at him. It was a generalised comment that this is what "people" do. I wasn't accusing anyone specifically of anything.
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10-22-2009 , 09:53 AM
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10-22-2009 , 09:58 AM
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10-22-2009 , 10:01 AM
The short of it, Wray, is that someone said that he's been running bad, and then you piped in saying that runbads are usually result of playing bad, not actual variance, and implicitly advised the OP to improve his game, thereby implying that his game is not solid and that he tilts/have been playing badly, which is the main cause of his downswing, not mere variance.

If you do not understand how this can be insulting, demeaning, or patronizing, you are not thinking hard enough.

After people called you out on it, not only did you not apologize, you fought back and started calling names. People called you a douchebag and such, but at least they cited their reasons. Instead of explaining yourself and/or arguing it logically, you resorted to sarcastic comments and attacks.

How whether someone is a "yank" is relevant is beyond me. That, sir, is childish, not what the others have been saying. They are merely being honest with their impressions of you.

Also, despite some of the things he's said, I actually respect THOAC somewhat throughout the matter. He at least managed to apologize for what he decided was his mistake, without bending his principles and stuff. He may come across as rude/arrogant, but I don't think he's all that bad, though I obviously don't know him well enough to comment. You on the other hand, seems a lot more pathetic by comparison with your defense.
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