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04-03-2012 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bunzablood
I asked Stars about this a couple of months ago and they told me that some sites (I think pokeroptymizer is one of them) have not respected their requests to allow players to opt-out, thus they're illegal, yet Stars can't do anything about it since basically the lobby and win/loss info. is visible for anybody. So, realistically speaking, if someone really wants to find your winrate, at this point in time, they can if they search hard enough.

So, u kicked janekaaa's ass?!
    Poker Stars, $95.69 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12428742

    Hero (SB): 2,000 (50 bb)
    BB: 1,000 (25 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 5
    Hero raises to 80, BB calls 40

    Flop: (160) A 6 2 (2 players)
    BB bets 80, Hero calls 80

    Turn: (320) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets 200, Hero calls 200

    River: (720) 5 (2 players)
    BB bets 640 and is all-in, Hero calls 640

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,000 pot
    Final Board: A 6 2 9 5
    Hero showed 6 5 and won 2,000 (1,000 net)
    BB showed 7 A and lost (-1,000 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    gg janekaaa

    For what it's worth; the leads by him were very well because before this hand he donked air.
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    04-03-2012 , 09:42 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chumplestultz
    hey math friends, a quick and presumably basic Q (actually 2) from your slightly less math-inclined pal chump.

    i'm looking at how often villain needs to fold for a flop bluff c/r to be +EV. if villain flats my c/r do I include my flop bet in the pot on the turn as "chips won" when calculating my turn barrel. that likely reads about as easy as it felt typing it. an example!

    pot on flop is 120 chips, I am c/r to 100. If I always fold to shove, and villain only ever shoves or folds then it's easy, I win 120 chips X% and I lose 100 chips (1-X)%, work it out and see if i'm +chips.

    But if villain's software is functioning correctly he likely has a call button and will likely click it some %. So on the turn I lead 200 chips. for simplicity's sake villain will now only fold or raise, bless him.

    so there's 4 possible outcomes of the c/r:
    1) villain folds, I win 120 chips (the pot on the flop)
    2) villain ships, I fold, I lose 100 chips (my c/r)
    3) villain flats and jams turn, I fold. Q1. Do I lose 200 chips or 320 chips?
    4) villain flats and folds turn. Q2. Do I win 220 chips or 320 chips?
    Allright, so we do have situation like this:
    Hero 500 (25bb)
    SB: 500 (25bb)

    SB opens to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop(80)
    XxXxXx
    Hero check, SB bets 40, hero ?

    I am assuming that we are at this point, and trying to find out, if it's worth to raise here. Which means, we haven't put our 100 chips in the middle yet.
    we will need at least few variables: how does he behave vs flop raise: FvFR, CvFR and RvFR (where FvFR+CvFR+RvFR = 1) and how on the turn: tCBet.
    Let's see what are the possible scenarios:
    1)hero raises to 100, SB folds result: +120 chips, prob: FvFR.
    2)hero raises to 100, SB jams, hero folds result: -100 chips, prob RvFR.
    3)hero raises to 100, SB calls 60
    Turn(280) XxXxXxXx
    Hero checks, SB jams result: -100 chips, prob: CvFR*tCBet
    4)hero raises to 100, SB calls 60
    Turn(280) XxXxXxXx
    Hero bets 200, SB folds result: +180 chips, prob: CvFR*(1-tCBet)

    Note, that we are assuming that we are double barreling 100% and he either jams or folds ott. So now the EV of our raise otf is:
    120*FvFR -100*RvFR -100*CvFR*tCBet + 180*CvFR*(1-tCBet)

    even if its simplified situation, so many variables makes it hard to tell exact numbers.
    but the answer to your question is: it depends mostly on the information you have gathered, becouse probability is highly dependant on the informations you already have.
    so if you are on the flop and presuming what are the possible villain plays, you shudn't count the money you are going to put in the middle as possible reward.
    but if you already did put them, now you don't have it, and you have possibility to win those.
    so winnings are the money in pot + what villain will put in on later streets, and loses are what you are going to put in, and give up.

    Last edited by kps; 04-03-2012 at 10:08 AM.
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    04-03-2012 , 10:16 AM
    we're OOP and c/r flop and lead 200 on the turn^

    i'm pretty sure that on the turn i calculate the EV of the line as either losing 300 chips (there's mistake in original Q1) or winning 220, just want to double check.
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    04-03-2012 , 11:23 AM
    fixed the assumptions. the max count of what you may loose is what you've put in, then the possible winnings might be max what the villain has put in. it would be the preflop prespective
    300 chips is nowhere near
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    04-03-2012 , 12:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mbradycf
    You can have an acct on as many skins as you want. I know BustoFish well and he isn't switching accts in order to push an edge involving stats, it's finding better deals on better skins and such.


    EDIT: Also putting his real name on an internet forum is way out of line imo
    So i am correct i take it? You dont think this is deceiving your opponents? I agree i shouldnt put his name without being 100 percent sure but if I am right which i think i am...I have no problem bc i believe this to be quite wrong...just my opinion tho.
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    04-03-2012 , 12:09 PM
    pretty sure you are not right about that being him considering he's played irbustofish six times...just my opinion tho.
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    04-03-2012 , 12:17 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HoyaSaxa123
    pretty sure you are not right about that being him considering he's played irbustofish six times...just my opinion tho.
    oops.

    But yea, don't out his name, he has done nothing wrong.
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    04-03-2012 , 12:35 PM
    IcarusJam is asleep and snoring in my **** bed. its 930am; how should I wake him up? I figure I have a few hrs to figure this out; can also prank him a few times over the next week
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    04-03-2012 , 12:37 PM
    tiesto never disappoints

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    04-03-2012 , 01:18 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Krumb Snatcha
    oops.

    But yea, don't out his name, he has done nothing wrong.
    you can easily play each other if u have two accounts all it takes is two computers pretty confident im right about this guys but if im wrong it wont be the first time ive made a mistake

    to add....pcpok3rgod has played 72 hu supers look up when he play irbustofish and also see that he won his last four games and they havent played since pretty obvious here imo def dont feel bad about saying his name bc once again i think this is wrong....
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    04-03-2012 , 01:22 PM
    even if he has multiple accounts, whats ur point? Its not like its against the rules, and its not like you cant do the same thing
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    04-03-2012 , 01:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dhcg86
    even if he has multiple accounts, whats ur point? Its not like its against the rules, and its not like you cant do the same thing
    seems deceiving to me...if its not against the rules then thats that i was unclear

    assuming i was right...would chip dumping not be against the rules?
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    04-03-2012 , 01:25 PM
    oh ok.

    Its not against the rules. You can have one screen name on every merge skin that there is
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    04-03-2012 , 01:29 PM
    spanky ur a ****ing idiot for outing the guys name period

    anyone gettin insane stars lag atm?
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    04-03-2012 , 01:40 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    seems deceiving to me...if its not against the rules then thats that i was unclear

    assuming i was right...would chip dumping not be against the rules?
    Yea, I think it would be against the rules, but who cares?
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    04-03-2012 , 01:43 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    you can easily play each other if u have two accounts all it takes is two computers pretty confident im right about this guys but if im wrong it wont be the first time ive made a mistake

    to add....pcpok3rgod has played 72 hu supers look up when he play irbustofish and also see that he won his last four games and they havent played since pretty obvious here imo def dont feel bad about saying his name bc once again i think this is wrong....
    this is ridiculous. if you did five mins worth of research before idiotically calling out bustofish, you'd recognize that this guy won an mtt on 5/26 which explains the decision to play hypers recently.

    your posts have been so unwarranted and comical that regs should start sitting you, because anyone acting like this surely doesn't have the intelligence to beat $120-250 HTs on merge.

    Last edited by HoyaSaxa123; 04-03-2012 at 01:44 PM. Reason: just my opinion tho...
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    04-03-2012 , 02:04 PM
    ting his real name but then saying your not even sure he is doing it.[/QUOTE]

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    So i am correct i take it? You dont think this is deceiving your opponents? I agree i shouldnt put his name without being 100 percent sure but if I am right which i think i am...I have no problem bc i believe this to be quite wrong...just my opinion tho.
    Just because you think you're right doesn't mean other people give up privacy.

    You can have one name per skin, and even if you can't, it's OK to just name somebody's real life name when it has nothing to do with the issue at hand?
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    04-03-2012 , 02:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    So i am correct i take it? You dont think this is deceiving your opponents? I agree i shouldnt put his name without being 100 percent sure but if I am right which i think i am...I have no problem bc i believe this to be quite wrong...just my opinion tho.
    Just because you think you're right doesn't mean other people give up privacy.

    You can have one name per skin, and even if you can't, it's OK to just name somebody's real life name when it has nothing to do with the issue at hand?
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    04-03-2012 , 02:11 PM
    Apologies to Irbustofish and Pcpok3rgod...i made a mistake by putting your name out there as well as not understanding the rules completely... although i can't say i agree with them whats fair is fair...sincere apology though gl all
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    04-03-2012 , 02:14 PM
    I started playing online again this weekend, and I was also upset when I saw that bustofish had a new name (new to me at least, irbustofish). I was only a lil upset because it does give him a bit of an unfair advantage if he crosses all of his history over into his new account (i dont know how to do this on the fly, so i wasnt able to when i sat him. lock is also so ****nig bad that i dont know how to look up players notes), but after a few hundred hands the stats show his patterns, and ive played him enough that i remember how he plays, so it wasnt a huge deal...just kinda annoying that stuff like this is allowed (which im fairly certain it is. bustofish told me that he found a better deal on a different site, which is why he keeps changing his sn).

    anyways, its not like bustofish is hiding his identity, hes making it clear who he is. even when his sn was imabiggheybear he came on here and told everyone. over all of my games against him he hasnt said or done anything malicious, so im prone to thinking he's an alright kinda guy and really is just getting better RB deals on other sites. Which tbh, ill probably be making a new sn on a different skin because lock is really ****ing pissing me off right now (I have been doing flips in roulete today so i can clear this bonus so i can cashout, ive won 2 flips and I got 5 or 6 more to go. the good news is that IF I somehow pull off a win Ill be about 9k richer = ) )

    Last edited by ChicagoRy; 04-03-2012 at 02:42 PM.
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    04-03-2012 , 02:18 PM
    First of all, Spanky, this just adds to my hunch that you're borderline ******ed....

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    i could be wrong and if i am i sincerely apologize...........

    just a heads up tho to the hu sng community......

    irbustofish used to be gheybears or whatevs neways he has thousands of hands against me and im fairly confident that he just changed his name again to pcpok3rgod....if im correct which im very confident i am....this would give ********* aka irbustofish,gheybears, pcpok3rgod atleast 3 usernames on the merge network....does anyone know if this is against the rules? i consider it wrong and cheating to be honest mayb im out of line but i would like to hear thoughts on what anyone else has to say....basically a guy plays u thousands of hands and then multiaccounts and plays u some more...all the while u think ure facing a new opponent and he has tons of stored info on you....its deceiving and wrong and its not even close....

    he also went on to imply it was in fact him altho he wouldnt outright admit to it....his hud numbers are very similar to bustofish and he plays particular hands and stack sizes a very similar and unique way.... he even said this is a heads up so you should quit playing me but never outright admitted it....all these things added helped me draw a hypothesis on the situation.....if im wrong im wrong and im sorry but my gut tells me otherwise
    It is not against the rules to have multiple accounts as others have said.

    If im understanding the bolded part correctly, this player said we should stop playing.... DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ME?!?!?! even though i've been avoiding regs a bit more lately I'm still the BIGGEST EGO-TARD ever and you know this...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mbradycf
    You can have an acct on as many skins as you want. I know BustoFish well and he isn't switching accts in order to push an edge involving stats, it's finding better deals on better skins and such.


    EDIT: Also putting his real name on an internet forum is way out of line imo
    This.

    Sorry i like money... I told every reg it was me each time I've made a new account, with the exception of maybe forgetting on this newest account "IrBustoFish" cause it's just ****ing obvious (although i still tried to remember to tell everyone).

    Attaching my name to this bull**** is ridiculous, imo. Once again, you very well may be ******ed...
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    So i am correct i take it? You dont think this is deceiving your opponents? I agree i shouldnt put his name without being 100 percent sure but if I am right which i think i am...I have no problem bc i believe this to be quite wrong...just my opinion tho.
    bold=you're a ******
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HoyaSaxa123
    pretty sure you are not right about that being him considering he's played irbustofish six times...just my opinion tho.
    lol, once again kirkers=******
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    you can easily play each other if u have two accounts all it takes is two computers pretty confident im right about this guys but if im wrong it wont be the first time ive made a mistake

    to add....pcpok3rgod has played 72 hu supers look up when he play irbustofish and also see that he won his last four games and they havent played since pretty obvious here imo def dont feel bad about saying his name bc once again i think this is wrong....
    Each time I've made new accounts I've had ppl help me with xfers, mostly 2+2ers... spanky, you're a tard.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dhcg86
    even if he has multiple accounts, whats ur point? Its not like its against the rules, and its not like you cant do the same thing
    <3 you
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    seems deceiving to me...if its not against the rules then thats that i was unclear

    assuming i was right...would chip dumping not be against the rules?
    buttttt.... you're not right and instead a tard.
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HoyaSaxa123
    this is ridiculous. if you did five mins worth of research before idiotically calling out bustofish, you'd recognize that this guy won an mtt on 5/26 which explains the decision to play hypers recently.

    your posts have been so unwarranted and comical that regs should start sitting you, because anyone acting like this surely doesn't have the intelligence to beat $120-250 HTs on merge.


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    IF I MADE A NEW ACCOUNT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A MUCH MORE CLEVER NAME. That alone should have made you realize you're indeed ******ed.

    Although i'm an ego-tard/douche at times, I've always been careful to at least keep a somewhat respectful reputation with HUSNGers... Since dhcg, hoya/sa1251, and mbrady can all vouch for me and are all about as well respected as it gets, Id like the mods to at least edit this mess if not just delete it all. AT LEAST take out my IRL name please.

    The only thing this as accomplished is proving spanky to be very stupid as has any conversation I've ever had with him. Spanky, from our conversations, you should know this would not be something I'd do to push an edge, you're a ****ing idiot GFY . ILY
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    04-03-2012 , 02:21 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raised by jews
    I started playing online again this weekend, and I was also upset when I saw that bustofish had a new name (new to me at least, irbustofish). I was only a lil upset because it does give him a bit of an unfair advantage if he crosses all of his history over into his new account (i dont know how to do this on the fly, so i wasnt able to when i sat him. lock is also so ****nig bad that i dont know how to look up players notes), but after a few hundred hands the stats show his patterns, and ive played him enough that i remember how he plays, so it wasnt a huge deal...just kinda annoying that stuff like this is allowed (which im fairly certain it is. bustofish told me that he found a better deal on a different site, which is why he keeps changing his sn).

    anyways, its not like bustofish is hiding his identity, hes making it clear who he is. even when his sn was imabiggheybear he came on here and told everyone. over all of my games against him he hasnt said or done anything malicious, so im prone to thinking he's an alright kinda guy and really is just getting better RB deals on other sites. Which tbh, ill probably be making a new sn on a different skin because lock is really ****ing pissing me off right now (I have been doing flips in roulete today so i can clear this bonus so i can cashout, ive won 2 flips and I got 5 or 6 more to go. the good news is that IF I somehow pull off a win Ill be about 9k richer = ) )
    i agree...this was my whole point as well altho he didnt make it clear it was him (not that he was technically supposed to) after he won about 2k i figured out it was him then he only hinted it was him after that

    Last edited by ChicagoRy; 04-03-2012 at 02:46 PM.
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    04-03-2012 , 02:25 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by raised by jews
    I started playing online again this weekend, and I was also upset when I saw that bustofish had a new name (new to me at least, irbustofish). I was only a lil upset because it does give him a bit of an unfair advantage if he crosses all of his history over into his new account (i dont know how to do this on the fly, so i wasnt able to when i sat him. lock is also so ****nig bad that i dont know how to look up players notes), but after a few hundred hands the stats show his patterns, and ive played him enough that i remember how he plays, so it wasnt a huge deal...just kinda annoying that stuff like this is allowed (which im fairly certain it is. bustofish told me that he found a better deal on a different site, which is why he keeps changing his sn).

    anyways, its not like bustofish is hiding his identity, hes making it clear who he is. even when his sn was imabiggheybear he came on here and told everyone. over all of my games against him he hasnt said or done anything malicious, so im prone to thinking he's an alright kinda guy and really is just getting better RB deals on other sites. Which tbh, ill probably be making a new sn on a different skin because lock is really ****ing pissing me off right now (I have been doing flips in roulete today so i can clear this bonus so i can cashout, ive won 2 flips and I got 5 or 6 more to go. the good news is that IF I somehow pull off a win Ill be about 9k richer = ) )

    .
    even though we've played each other a decent amount and not been particularly buddy buddy, he thinks i'm "an alright kinda guy".



    Think this should officially prove I'm doing nothing wrong, spanky's a tard, and this should be taken down
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    i agree...this was my whole point as well altho he didnt make it clear it was him (not that he was technically supposed to) after he won about 2k i figured out it was him then he only hinted it was him after that
    except that account isn't mine.... (and if was i wouldn't be doing anything wrong, lol)

    Last edited by ChicagoRy; 04-03-2012 at 02:45 PM.
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    04-03-2012 , 02:32 PM
    well played i was completely wrong i stand firmly corrected...sincerest apologies to Irbustofish again gl last you will hear from me. i do have my doubts that this acct is ures tho (not that it matters one way or another)
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    04-03-2012 , 02:37 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpankyKirky
    well played i was completely wrong i stand firmly corrected...sincerest apologies to Irbustofish again gl last you will hear from me ... although i have my doubts that it is you (not that it matters)
    OMFG, what more could you need to realize how ******ed your accusation is
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