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02-06-2011 , 02:40 PM
he did not cbet J52hh, 3x he fold to lead
call mini raise OOP w/ A9, and we checked down K97sss, Kx ,8x and i mucked w/ 75

are u calling this 2nd barell?

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t1530)
SB (t1470)

Hero's M: 34.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 9
SB bets t60, Hero calls t45

Flop: (t150) A, 10, A (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t112, Hero calls t112

Turn: (t374) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t280, Hero calls t280

Total pot: t934
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02-06-2011 , 04:25 PM
What do we do with hands like KJ and QJ OOP against a bad opponent who's still 3X raising pre 50-60% of hand with blinds <15. Are these elementary shoves? If so, pardon the question. I have pretty bad instincts for this endgame strategy since it happens so rarely that I come across such a villain.

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02-06-2011 , 05:08 PM
Final game in a $5 4man, we'd had only a few hands before this. I'm afraid I can't remember if I had any reads from those hands.

At the time I was thinking that I wouldn't mind getting to showdown if I could do it cheaply, plus the chance of a straight flush was dazzling me a bit.

I was putting him on a flush - I just couldn't see him doing this with bluffs or any other kind of hand (that said only a few games earlier I did catch someone bluff a 4 to a flush board like this, so anything's possible).

Afterwards though I realised I only beat a 2,3 or 4 of clubs, and they might have folded the flop (maybe), leaving more clubs that beat me than what I beat. I pokerstoved it with him having only a flush (no bluffs or non-club hands), and I had 38% equity (so the most I should call on the turn is about $90 - I always get these calculations wrong though).

So is it wrong to call that turn? Can we edge towards having odds by including non-flush hands we beat into his range, and also including the implied odds of getting the straight flush (which would lead to stacks hopefully)?

$10/$20 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
SB ($1,580)
Hero ($1,420)

Pre-Flop: ($30, 2 players) Hero is BB 4 7
SB calls $10, Hero checks

Flop: 6 5 K ($40, 2 players)
Hero bets $40, SB calls $40

Turn: 8 ($120, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $120, Hero ?
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02-06-2011 , 09:01 PM
What is a reasonable hourly at the 6s turbos on ft? If you are better than a lot of the fish that play there
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02-06-2011 , 10:15 PM
about the same as working in a fast food at best
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02-06-2011 , 10:24 PM
Yeah about that. Depends a lot on the number of tables you play too, I think.
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02-07-2011 , 06:15 AM
Hey guyz. I am interested, what experience do you have from variance in regular speed. how long did you have the biggest BE season, what was your biggest swing and what roi do you have?

Thank you for any post.

I hope, than this post isn´t already here.

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02-07-2011 , 08:38 AM
Go to HUSNG.com and play around with the variance calculator. It's under Free->Tools. Variance is a function of your winrate; if you win more frequently, you will have lower variance.

For an analogy, think of how many 10 game losing streaks the Cavaliers are likely to have, and how many the Celtics are likely to have.

Before you do anything else, go and read the sticky FAQ at the top, and do that every time you post in an internet forum or the regs there will hate you.
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02-07-2011 , 06:23 PM
1st let me appologize for post count long time lurker just created an account so I can take the next step and try to be more hands on with my poker development. Something I've kinda been thinking about lately if it would ever be beneficial to show some hands to try to influence villains and change your table image. You know you're playing that uber nit that you can't ever get to give you any value for any hand you hit, well I was thinking maybe you show him some horrendous bluffs to try to get him to play back at you a little call you down lighter maybe you can start getting value out of his 2nd, 3rd and 4th pair hands. Just a thought maybe it's stupid but I'm sure someone has tried it at some point and I know it would have to be villain specific but just looking for some opinions. Thanks.
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02-07-2011 , 06:38 PM
Take a pen and a piece of paper, write this down, and fix it on your wall behind your compute:
1. I never show my hands without showdown
2. I can however lie (or not) in the chat about what I had

And say it 10 times every morning
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02-07-2011 , 06:58 PM
turned my first royal flush yesterday.

obv showed that.
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02-07-2011 , 07:14 PM
I have not used Sharkscope but am considering it.

-In your opinion, is Sharkscope a "must" for maximizing your ROI (I play $23 turbos on Stars, if the stakes/game type make any difference)? and/or How do you rate its effectiveness?

-How do you interpret the information it offers on a particular player and incorporate it into your general strategy vs them?

Thanks in advance.
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02-07-2011 , 07:22 PM
it's useful sometimes. Early in a match with no reads, if I see a really weird line, I'm like 100% calling.

your reads come from playing your opponent... but in general, the worser their stats, the less credit I give them for betting thin; so I call more.
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02-07-2011 , 07:25 PM
aren't the majority of players on stars hidden on sharkscope anyway? or has that changed?
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02-07-2011 , 07:27 PM
No, nevar.
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02-07-2011 , 07:28 PM
sharkscope still has so much win
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02-07-2011 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealy Man
sharkscope still has so much win
I agree
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02-07-2011 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wixmonster
turned my first royal flush yesterday.

obv showed that.
flopped one the other day
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02-07-2011 , 08:15 PM
No one here ever shows except straight flush I'll bet you may show quads every once in a while too. I have stars set to auto muck and was just wondering if I should maybe change it but I guess in a limited player pool the short term EV you pick up from tilting someone isn't worth the loss of EV long term from the info you give away. OK how about the other way say you 3b bluff someone and catch a monster are you ever over betting to induce folds instead of playing for value since giving away info. there could have the same long term effects. I would still appreciate more opinions on the showing of hands too. Thanks all for the replies so far.
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02-07-2011 , 08:25 PM
You can get a ton of info on sharkscope. There are a lot of times were I'll look someone up initially to find them as a winning player, but whether it be looking at their graph and finding a massive downswing after a tournament win or the fact that they've played a really small sample of HU games compared to 6-handed+ games. You can sort out the difference between an actual HU reg and maybe someone who just got lucky at some point and isn't any good. Definitely changes how I play certain players.
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02-08-2011 , 12:07 AM
For me SS is a must have. Before I even play a hand vs a new villian I will copy and paste their stats into the notes.

Gives me very fast indication of whether they are a reg or a fish.
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02-08-2011 , 12:11 AM
showing is OK vs weaker players, but you are prob gonna beat them anyway so...
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02-08-2011 , 12:16 AM
nope
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02-08-2011 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jackster
I have not used Sharkscope but am considering it.

-In your opinion, is Sharkscope a "must" for maximizing your ROI (I play $23 turbos on Stars, if the stakes/game type make any difference)? and/or How do you rate its effectiveness?

If ure a bunhumter then yes

-How do you interpret the information it offers on a particular player and incorporate it into your general strategy vs them?

I play worse using sharkscope then when i dont. When i see opponent stats i assume a bunch of things i shouldnt and makes me think there is not much edge vs some where there is.
When i dont use i can focus on each vilain particullary game play rather then just assume reg or fish.


Thanks in advance.
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02-08-2011 , 01:55 AM
i have to agree on deepak opinion that using sharkscope wont give you any decent information, if the guy is a pure drooler you should understand it pretty fast without it, and appart from that case you are most likely to interpret some partial information in a wrong way, how do you know a huge winner isnt a huge bumhunter with a playstyle custom tailored to beating huge fishs only, and how do you know that weak reg isnt a very good reg with awefull game selection like nathan here
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