I'll take 2%. I don't think you're trolling patrick. Your questions are fair imo.

I just watched a couple of 20 minute bites of a couple of episodes on http://www.pokernight.com/ and a typical line up, 8 handed, seems to be about 4 pros, a couple of semi-pros, maybe one sports star or other celebrity who can play a bit but is not great, and 1 total spewtard fish.

I didn't see any straddles but I guess these come more often as players get stuck and the game gets deeper
or nearer the end of the session.

They also seemed to run it twice a lot in big pots.

There is also a lot of chat and bonhomie going on with 2 or 3 players seemingly "playing for fun" and being fairly de-sensitised to spewing their money away.

In other words this game is +EV for any good player who is playing professionally to exploit the over relaxed outlook and loose style of some of the other players.

Opening ranges from the clips I have seen seem wide and calling of an opening raise even wider. A short/shortish stacking TAG style seems perfect for this kind of game.

Obviously the line up could be different or tougher to what is described above, but they are making a TV programme which is almost like a mini soap opera with characters playing parts in it so there has to be a diversity of playing strengths and player backgrounds in it to achieve the mini soap opera effect.

It's on til 1am est on cbssports right now

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I just realized who Olaff is and it makes his comments all the more lol. Olaff is a known terrible poster (troll?!?) in the live low stakes forum and he is known for posting 5/10 hands with beginner level questions that any halfway decent 1/2 player would know the answer to. Many regular posters in LLSNL believe he doesn't actually play 5/10 but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he is a losing 5/10 player with a really big bankroll.

Reserved:
Katie Dozier: 1%
KarlZ: 5%
BatPoker: 1%
isplashcranberrys: 1%
FrankyRizzo: 1%
SageDonkey: 2%
jasbral: 2%
John Bunch: 5% (paid CQP)

Still available: 62%

Filming has been moved to Jan 17th & 18th.

Hey Katie, will take 1% for sweat value. If someone could send to her (don't have any of her methods atm) and I send PS/Skrill, that'd be awesome, if not, I can probs figure it out

I assume you are not allowed, but you never know ....... can you sell the seat? I'd be interested in buying.




EDIT:

Also, if you don't sell the seat to me, could you tell Craig that if he wants to call his show a sports talk show, then he should spend more time talking about sports?

The problem I have with this package is this: she's looking to sell $7500-8000 worth of action, and lists:

All of whom have apparently bought 0%. Can you reconcile this OP? (I'm not trying to troll here even though it sounds like I am - I legitimately don't understand this).

^^ yeah thats suspicious why did u not sell to them?

I would take the opposite view and commend the OP on not recklessly playing beyond sensible bank roll management.

How many people can comfortably afford to lose $2K in one cash game session? A few, but it is the minority who can.

If you read the whole thread you'll see that this is a +EV game for the OP, maybe not a huge +EV, but +EV nonetheless.

And who wouldn't want to play on TV, for the sheer experience of it, and to raise their profile.

Maybe some of the references will choose to back, maybe they won't. To all intents and purposes it is irrelevant. Often the referees are not the backers and this has been the case in most of the packages I have sold.

Finally, if a backed player was going to run with the money (which I think is a tiny, tiny risk if any here), then the dumbest way they could do this is when it is a live televised game and being backed by possibly 10 to 20 backers on the world's most prominent poker forum.

I think you misunderstood me.

It's not necessarily a question of why references don't back, it's why these specific references (players who play large money buyin tournaments, including one with over 10M tournament winnings) aren't buying pieces. They don't strike me as the type who hate money.

If her references were a bunch of low stakes grinders who couldn't put together a few grand on a gamble, that would make perfect sense. Heck, if she'd listed just one or two well known names, you could make the assumption that maybe they're backed or have their own financial complications that preclude investment.

However, she listed fifteen people. The implication (at least for me) in this case is they provide a positive reference for her trustworthiness (which of course has value), but a negative reference for the EV of having a piece by not buying any.

This is a 25/50 game with possible straddles. I would guess that her usual stakes are more like 1/3, or 2/4, possibly 5/10, which is normal for the bulk of live grinders. So getting backing for a game 10 to 20 times bigger than usual doesn't ring any alarm bells. References/friends etc don't have to invest in you to be references/friends so the conclusions you draw from some or all of them maybe not investing are not entirely logical.

Playing way above sensible BRM is not just about the potential loss of the money in itself, it can also be very psychologically damaging in the long term if it goes wrong.

I'm not sure why you keep explaining to me why she might want backing; I understand that perfectly.

You bring up some valid points. Going forward I am only going to invest in players that don't have any references.

Some of my references are playing in the same game- 2 or 3 but maybe more, some of my references aren't buying action right now, some don't buy cash game action, and most of my references buy action anonymously. Some are buying and have texted me and some are waiting to see how much gets sold here on 2p2.

All but one of my references has bought my action in the past and a decent amount of them buy my action for live tournaments on a regular basis. They simply don't want to advertise to the world that they buy action in general.

HaHaHa,

I'm in for 2% because I'm enjoying this so much!

Katie did u check my references for 1% ? Haven't heard from you.

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Fair answer, thanks. I may yet buy in, would be fun to sweat a TV piece.

No, this is not a sellable seat. The producers of the show decide who they want to be on it.

I would like to point out a few things that a lot of poster didn't seem to get. This is a good opportunity for doing some business. Most 10/25 + players don't sell on the open market like here because they don't want to deal with the hassle of 2+2. You buy 1 or 2% here for future business, if I get a chance of buying a pieces of someone who is a solid known player WSOP packages like Katie or Scott Blackman I would jump at it.

The reason I'm not buying is because I will be down in AC for BPO and don't want to put a stress in my budget also I'm just a random guy on a forum or else I would do it.

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I'll do it for you jdawg. Pm me.

I was invited to play the ladies game but was unable to because I had to have spine surgery.

He just responded to me 20 minutes ago and vouched for you. Will PM you. ty.

Reserved:
Katie Dozier: 1%
KarlZ: 5%
BatPoker: 1%
isplashcranberrys: 1%
FrankyRizzo: 1%
SageDonkey: 2%
jasbral: 2%
John Bunch: 5% (paid CQP)
jdawg: 1%
Kidrino: 2%

Still available: 59%