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04-22-2014 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
So it was folded to you, you raise in HJ, and ILR cold calls in the SB with no callers between? Have mixed games really brought your hold'em game to that ILR?

Guessing ILR hand was KJ or JJ? Either way I hate preflop ldo.
The far more rational (and likely) assumption is simply that Silverman got the hand history wrong.
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04-22-2014 , 07:05 PM
*looks up Parsimony in dictionary*

*still doesn't understand meaning*

*goes back to 'work'*
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04-22-2014 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ILikeRocks
I have 0.000000% cold calling range first in versus an lp open in a 2/4 structure in the sb.
False, missclicks when you think it is folded to you in the SB
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04-22-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
False, missclicks when you think it is folded to you in the SB
Fair enough, but then I would've just and pointed out that I misclicked.

(p.s. Use the nerd definition of parsimony, not the cheapness one.)
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04-22-2014 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Also, BTN raises should be feared from a guy who opens 42s in EP. Like how could you fold 7 and a fresh cocktail napkin vs him? You probably have him dominated.
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
I'm willing to bet ilr was bb
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
The far more rational (and likely) assumption is simply that Silverman got the hand history wrong.
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Originally Posted by ILikeRocks
I have 0.000000% cold calling range first in versus an lp open in a 2/4 structure in the sb.
I know IRL was SB because when the hand got tabled I remember thinking uhhhh, definitely didn't expect IRL to be tabling that hand calling from SB, whereas the hand would have been basically an auto-call in BB. But then I thought to myself a second later, IRL knows can outplay me so it made sense to me why IRL made the call.

I can easily be convinced I am an idiot, but my memory is impeccable! (Aside from that one screwup OTR pointed out)

We can even make a side bet and I will give you all great odds, if the casino still has video 3 weeks later, since we have the date.

IRL, do you remember a hand we were in a little less than 2 years ago where I showed you the winner after you folded to my river raise. I will be impressed if you remember that one Hint: you were in the SB in that hand.

Last edited by Silver_Man2; 04-22-2014 at 07:36 PM.
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04-22-2014 , 07:36 PM
I would also bet against you have a great memory for poker hands given how badly you mangled the other one.
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04-22-2014 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
I would also bet against you have a great memory for poker hands
Pick how much you want to do a head's up freeze out for. And if you are so sure I'm wrong about IRL being the SB, we can bet the same amount that I am right about IRL's position in that hand. Then I will be free rolling when we play heads up. Granted we can get the video from that day.

Last edited by Silver_Man2; 04-22-2014 at 07:53 PM.
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04-22-2014 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
I would also bet against you have a great memory for poker hands given how badly you mangled the other one.
Also, pick 10 random countries in the world before you see me next at the table or you can just use your smartphone at the table since you are always buried in it

And I will tell each one's capital.

I was kind of a geography nut in 2nd and 3rd grade and memorized all the world capitals, and still remember them all to this day.

Minus new russian republics because the USSR was still standing at that time, and like a 3rd of the African countries I don't know because they were too difficult to pronounce when I was 8.

I will give you a buck each for any you can stump me on, that includes the rest of you too

Last edited by Silver_Man2; 04-22-2014 at 07:57 PM.
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04-22-2014 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Pick how much you want to do a head's up freeze out for. And if you are so sure I'm wrong about IRL being the SB, we can bet the same amount that I am right about IRL's position in that hand. Then I will be free rolling when we play heads up. Granted we can get the video from that day.
Is this open to anyone? There a chance they'll check the video for me. I'd like to do this for at least 10,000
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04-22-2014 , 07:55 PM
Il also offer another prop bet. We play a session, after a few hours somebody picks random hands that were played (they right down action on paper). Then we can bet $100 hand to see who gets action most correct.
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04-22-2014 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Pick how much you want to do a head's up freeze out for. And if you are so sure I'm wrong about IRL being the SB, we can bet the same amount that I am right about IRL's position in that hand. Then I will be free rolling when we play heads up. Granted we can get the video from that day.
I accept and I'll play for any amount between 5k and your bankroll.
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04-22-2014 , 08:08 PM
Pretty funny you mention the smartphone since I was on it during the other hand you mentioned and still got the action right.
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04-22-2014 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
Is this open to anyone? There a chance they'll check the video for me. I'd like to do this for at least 10,000
Would be a complete waste of time for us both. I would win 10k on IRL's position and then lose 10k playing heads up poker.

If you think IRL is right about her position in that hand, I'll happily give you 1k if she is the BB and take 500 off you if she is the SB
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04-22-2014 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Would be a complete waste of time for us both. I would win 10k on IRL's position and then lose 10k playing heads up poker.

If you think IRL is right about her position in that hand, I'll happily give you 1k if she is the BB and take 500 off you if she is the SB
Accept this as well.
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04-22-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Pretty funny you mention the smartphone since I was on it during the other hand you mentioned and still got the action right.
haha

I was too excited about flopping trip 3's and the action I thought I was getting to worry about positions in that hand exactly correctly.
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04-22-2014 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
I accept and I'll play for any amount between 5k and your bankroll.
Lol no chance!!! I was thinking like a $500 freeze-out playing 1/2 play money, so obviously that wouldn't be worth your time considering it could last a few sessions.

Let me get up 45-50k first then I'm down to do a 5k heads up to mix it up.
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04-22-2014 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Would be a complete waste of time for us both. I would win 10k on IRL's position and then lose 10k playing heads up poker.

If you think IRL is right about her position in that hand, I'll happily give you 1k if she is the BB and take 500 off you if she is the SB
How is this a waste of time, if your somehow wrong I win 10k
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04-22-2014 , 08:19 PM
SM: You should've offered a HU poo-flinging challenge instead. They don't know that you've got the edge since you don't duck the poo flung at you and are super lag in the poo game. HU LHE for $$$$ challenge is not such a good idea. Try to walk it back, imo.

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04-22-2014 , 08:20 PM
Def the fastest way to run it up is to play me huhu
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04-22-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Accept this as well.
Alright, lets see if Locke can get the video surveillance from that day.

I don't know if locke wants just the position of ILR bet though.

The date is my second entry where I lost 425 and ILR's hand was Q9. I want to view it with you though obv.

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04-22-2014 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Def the fastest way to run it up is to play me huhu
I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.
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04-22-2014 , 08:44 PM
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04-22-2014 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
If you think IRL is right about her position in that hand, I'll happily give you 1k if she is the BB and take 500 off you if she is the SB
Can I take this too?
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04-22-2014 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jonboy72
Can I take this too?
Sweet.....

Free money from john locks...OTR and jonboy coming my way....



I get to increase being up lifetime on OTR and Locke and decrease jonboy being up on me lifetime

Thanks Ilikerocks! Maybe Donavan's once they all pay me?
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04-22-2014 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Sweet.....

Free money from john locks...OTR and jonboy coming my way....



I get to increase being up lifetime on OTR and Locke and decrease jonboy being up on me lifetime

Thanks Ilikerocks! Maybe Donavan's once they all pay me?
I've seen ilr cold call the sb exactly 0 times in this spot. Otoh I've seen you butcher the action of every hand you've posted. So maybe the better question is how much is it gonna suck when you lose back most of your 20/40 profits doing a stupid prop bet.
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