It’s been a long day, but wanted to share a hand.
Just coached a loss in girls softball. Our team struggles, but we always gv hard effort. Just a bunch of new players going up against travel ball players. #FallBall
Tomorrow we coach my son’s baseball.
Been thinking bout this hand throughout tonight’s game under the bright lights.

2/5nl Here it is…

Me: start hand w $1500
Gambo: covers, straddles $15 every hand, and calls everything pre. He does hv some poker savvy tho. “Some”.

$15 straddle from Gambo, a couple limps, I make it $75 w KhKc, and of course straddler calls.

Hu
Pot $180
Flop: Jd 2d 7c
Bet $150, Gambo calls without hesitation.

Pot $480
Turn: 2h
Bet $300, Gambo calls without hesitation.

Pot: $1080
River: 3d
Action on me with $975 behind.
I bet $400. …
Before I finish the hand, this is where my question is.
Is this bet fine? Bet less? Bet more?Jam? Check/call?
Gambo…

waaaay too little info. what stakes? what are effective stacks? is he up or down on the session? how many players to start the hand? what is your perceived image?

just based on the fact that he always straddles then calls i'd assume he's a bit of a station so i'm shoving river. but yeah, more info.

I'm jamming and expecting him to pay us off with a flush a big percentage of the time.

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I did not see that the flush got there... then we need even more info. How does he play his draws? Is he capable of turning a marginal hand into a bluff?

Either way I'm either checking or betting smaller on the river.

Decent part of his range should be diamonds here and you don’t have the Kd so you even unblock all his Kd suited combos on top of his Ad/however loose will go with sooted diamond combos. X-call has to be the play here on the river vs this V...you say gambol but is he like stationy or does he want to aggro of checked to on this river? If so even more reason to check bc you can catch all his bluffs as well. If he’s strictly stationy and hates $ then you can jam this river and get called by Jx. Would feel a lot worse about bet-calling than x-calling this river but you pretty much have to bet-call when you bet this amount not much to fold should he jam over you.


So yeah it’s a x-call if he has any real aggression. It’s a jam if he’s just going to station off on Jx.

Lets b clear, Mr. Gambo not only lost 50lbs since I been playing w him pre-Covid. but also can hv any 2 cards here.
Jd 2d 7c 2h 3d
Any 2 beats me and diamonds, but are we worried? Tbh, yeah a little. For sure, he has some hands that will pay my river bet off, but does he have more hands that beat me here? Maybe he doesn’t have anything at all, and just folds. ???
Just not too sure what is best option for me otr.

I don't see too many 2x hands that are check calling pre-flop and flop bets. I think you are ahead value wise, only concern I have is the diamonds getting there.

If you think he could have diamonds in his range, I would check call river. If not, I think all-in would be might bet of choice. We aren't getting better hands to fold, but he may over call with KJ or something.

Well, if you provide the pertinent information I suggested we could have a discussion... My guess is that your thought process doesn't include any of the information I mentioned as you click buttons.

You mentioned that you've played with him prior to COVID so obviously there's history but the best you can come up with is:
1. He always straddles and never folds it.
2. He has some "poker savvy" (I have no idea what this means).
3. A flush and trips beat one pair.
4. He's lost 50 lbs during the pandemic.

The games you played when playing full-time must've been amazing because you're definitely a fish.

Turn is such a brick and according to you he's such a station you shoulda hit em with that turn overbet for like $600 my guy

Love this thread. OMG OMG OMG stop gambling on stocks. No sportsbetting. No returning things to Home Depot. Stick to what you are good at (playing poker). Poker commences and immediately thread flames you for being a fish and how could you ever win.

To be fair I'm the only one that's called him a fish today. I've considered him quite terrible at poker for years, solely based on how he thinks about and discusses hand histories.

I mean what does he expect us to analyze when he provides no information? Not even stakes or stack depth. It's live poker vs a person he's got history with so there's tons of variables that will play a part in shifting a marginal decision either way... If you're a thinking player, that is.

You are the only one to call him a fish today. Just funny no matter what BS does there is someone to immediately **** on him. There is always someone to call him an idiot (often me).

When I say Gambo straddles $15 every time pre and never folds to a raise pre; then it’s quite easy to assume highest vpip at the table. Possible every ****ing hand 100% vpip lol.
I mean, my Lord, what else can I say? His name is Gambo after all.
history w Gambo and I. He perceives me as the best in the room. Just like u shd too @Masta.
Come and sit down. I’ll play up to 10/25nl full ring.

Well, he does make a shitload of bad decisions. Degeneracy at such a high level is seriously entertaining and the only reason I enjoy this thread.

I like this. I think that is a better option.
W what he had. He wd hv been snap calling too.
Love that sizing tho.

I’ll holla back w this hh tonight after I coach this machine pitch baseball game to a W.

Yeah it’s so crazy that’s it’s either ch/calling or jamming. At least, that’s what I feel.

Instead, we bet $400 (from our $975 stack)

No **** he has a high VPIP; I gathered as much. Are you capable of answering my other queries regarding the hand? I'm guessing no since you keep ignoring them.

I haven't boasted about my own abilities so I assume the reason you're challenging me to a HU match (at a full ring table ) is due to a bruised ego. Lucky for you that I reside in Sweden.

Like I said, your being so reckless is the sole reason I take the time to follow this thread. I could be a top HU player for all you know but you don't give a fuuuck! Gotta swing that dick.

No idea what ur talking bout mate. I never challenged u to a hu. Just said come and sit. We need all the players we can get.

What’s ur other questions? I’ll b glad to answer them. After I answer, cd u please tell me what u wd do in this spot otr?

Oh I remember one question u had. How does he play his draws? A) When checked to, he wd most likely bet. He wd also most likely lead as well. He loves to fire.

If u cd read into the name Gambo more, u may b able to answer some of ur own questions. If u can find those next gears.

Ray does a great job of table selection, the most important skill of all.

X-call river sounds best as it sounds like this V will have river bluffs. Leading for your sizing no bueno since you can’t bet fold for that size and he will raise his flushes and stronger hands and flat with the same value hands he would flat a jam lead from you for. Also he sounds like the type that will just bet some of his Jx with his bluffs bc this type doesn’t like checking behind otr.

Well, you probably need players that are worse than you, so I'll stay in Sweden for the time being.

My questions can be found in this thread, believe it or not. If you really wanted to answer them you'd put in the huge effort of scrolling up. Just so you can't cop out I'll rehash them for you below:
what stakes? what are effective stacks? is he up or down on the session? how many players to start the hand? what is your perceived image? Is he capable of turning a marginal hand into a bluff?

You just answered how he plays his draws... but I fail to see how your answer is relevant to the hand being discussed. He's not checked to nor is he OOP so he cannot lead into you. So let me simplify the question for you: how does he play his draws when bet into by the preflop aggressor?

I already answered what I would do in this spot provided the almost nonexistent info offered. That answer is also in this thread (3 posts after you originally asked the question), but you'll have to scroll up for that if you really care what I have to say about it.

Finding "those next gears" is knowing the answers to all of the questions above (and then some), not being able to discern tendencies with precision based on how a player is nicknamed coupled with his/her weight loss status.

You seem a bit more loopy than usual. If I didn't know any better I'd assume you've been poppin' them pills!

I hope this is a subtle shot in my direction because Rayz invited me to play with him, but in case it's not I'm curious to know: It is definitely one of the more important skills! Is it possible to choose what table you want to sit at in all casinos in the US? How does seating work?

What stakes? Refer to my post #12951
What are effective stacks? Refer to my post #12951
Is he up or down in the sesh? No phucking clue. I sat after him. Sorry I shd hv asked him. Lol
How many players start the hand? 8 players dealt in.
How many limps pre before I raised to $75? Refer to my post #12951
What is my perceived image? Refer to my post #12964
Is he capable of turning a marginal hand into a bluff? I call him Gambo for a reason. The guy is capable of anything. Thus, the “savvy” word.

No, it wasn't aimed at you. We all know that invitation from BS was just bluster.

I say he practices good table selection because:

1. He has mentioned before that he left and went home because there were no spots left. He didn't want to stick around with a table full of Ray-clones. I have stayed at bad tables many a time, just because I was too lazy to move tables or go home.

2. He often mentions a fish in his game he is targeting. Characters like "The Roofer", "Gambo", etc.

It's possible to request a table or seat change.

Next hh I will b over the top extra on details. It is important. I’ll take the time.
My apologies if I didn’t add enough details. Thought we cd get a discussion on river bet without adding too many unnecessary variables.