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Skraper vs Benjamin Barker, 10nl to 100nl: Who will be KING of the Micros? Skraper vs Benjamin Barker, 10nl to 100nl: Who will be KING of the Micros?

10-22-2011 , 03:57 PM
Then play like you'd play at a 6max table where it folds around to you in CO with such players behind you obv
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10-22-2011 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by skraper
Download the first video here:

Skraper plays 4 tables 10nl - Benjamin Barker Commentary

Also, we'd love to hear what you guys think of the video and we will be happy to respond to any questions you might have.


awesome video, Ive only watched the first 26 minutes but i might have to go back and watch the rest in a minute even though im really tired.

when you 3b KJdd BvB against the reg, dan said it was standard. Is this generally how you guys play BvB? Im always scared of being 4bet and having to fold my KJdd.

Also, sean said that the AJs in the early part of the video was usually a 3b but the btn seemed pretty tight. Why is it usually a 3b? I feel like I haven't been 3betting enough!

thanks
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10-22-2011 , 09:31 PM
also is limping in BvB with the fish a stand play of yours? Im always folding a ton in the SB with them in the BB because I end up barreling a ton to get them to fold and limping acutally seems like a good idea tbh (i have that never open limp syndrome lol)
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10-22-2011 , 09:52 PM
Subbed before I even finished reading OP.

I saw your 3-betting video a while ago and found it pretty instructional. I will continue following.
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10-22-2011 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MattDaBeast
Subbed before I even finished reading OP.

I saw your 3-betting video a while ago and found it pretty instructional. I will continue following.
link?
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10-23-2011 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
link?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-video-796092/
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10-23-2011 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Don Stefanello
epic legend thankyou
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10-23-2011 , 06:35 AM
That vid is a must watch for any micro stakes player.
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10-23-2011 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
when you 3b KJdd BvB against the reg, dan said it was standard. Is this generally how you guys play BvB? Im always scared of being 4bet and having to fold my KJdd.

Also, sean said that the AJs in the early part of the video was usually a 3b but the btn seemed pretty tight. Why is it usually a 3b? I feel like I haven't been 3betting enough!
I was thinking about this, too. What's the point of 3betting KJs bvb, if most regs either fold or 4bet. Wouldn't that be a waste of hand which can play really good postflop in position?

Also, I'm not sure I understand why is ''AJs 3bet vs 9/10 players'', which reminds me of one great post.
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10-23-2011 , 08:04 AM
This is awesome and ty for the videos.
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10-23-2011 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Grindcore
Then play like you'd play at a 6max table where it folds around to you in CO with such players behind you obv
Grindcore always make this game seem so easy
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10-23-2011 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
when you 3b KJdd BvB against the reg, dan said it was standard. Is this generally how you guys play BvB? Im always scared of being 4bet and having to fold my KJdd.

Also, sean said that the AJs in the early part of the video was usually a 3b but the btn seemed pretty tight. Why is it usually a 3b? I feel like I haven't been 3betting enough!
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Originally Posted by Matawazi
I was thinking about this, too. What's the point of 3betting KJs bvb, if most regs either fold or 4bet. Wouldn't that be a waste of hand which can play really good postflop in position?

Also, I'm not sure I understand why is ''AJs 3bet vs 9/10 players'', which reminds me of one great post.
The KJs BvB is a standard 3bet because of the villain we are facing. Even without the dynamic we develop through the video, he is 36/28 with a lowish f3bet. This villain will flat OOP with many hands we beat.

The AJs hand is a 3bet vs most regs when OOP simply because they will flat wider OTB than in other positions. When guys will call you with many suited Ax and hands like KJ/QJ/JT we do dominate a fair bit of their range. Also, keep in mind he is very likely to to 4b JJ+/AK so we are only really dominated by AQ when he flats.

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Originally Posted by ProfesorKaos
also is limping in BvB with the fish a stand play of yours? Im always folding a ton in the SB with them in the BB because I end up barreling a ton to get them to fold and limping acutally seems like a good idea tbh (i have that never open limp syndrome lol)
It's actually something I don't really do either. Dan seems to like it in a few spots (stress on FEW). I would imagine only in spots where he doesn't want to raise bc villain will always call and we are OOP vs a guy who can't fold with like 6 high or something, but that hand is playable. We would also not want to limp in BvB vs a villain who is likely to raise.

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Originally Posted by MattDaBeast
Subbed before I even finished reading OP.

I saw your 3-betting video a while ago and found it pretty instructional. I will continue following.
Glad you liked that video. We should probably have the OP edited to include all of the videos we have released.

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This is awesome and ty for the videos.
YW.

Last edited by skraper; 10-23-2011 at 10:25 AM.
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10-23-2011 , 10:56 AM
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thanks for clarifying im loving these video's I have learnt a ton from them and look forward to any other one's you 2 may happen to make.

ty
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10-24-2011 , 01:43 AM
thanks for the positive feedback guys!

sean answered the questions pretty well imo

back from my trip and planning on resuming the challenge with a session tomorrow!
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10-24-2011 , 06:57 AM
Good luck !
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10-24-2011 , 12:12 PM
Hey guys , enjoyed your youtube vids. Hope you can upload some more :-)
Couple questions though if it's ok.
That 9 10hh, would you still have been able to make that move otr, if he had bet like 12-14 on turn and/or say 28-30 otr? Would you think twice if he seemed a little more commited w less FE?

Also I think I'm pretty paraniod when playing these days. My gut would have told me he has A5 where he just followed thrue.
And on the other hand (the AQ hand) with the overbet otr, where 4 & 5 (suited) would have gotten there, I would def believe he could have that straight. Thought being he overbet since he missed a bet on turn , and also the fact that I can play small open ended str8draws the same way(raising flop) if I set my oppo on a hand he wont fold (checking turn)...gives a element of surprise if you hit and it's fairly hidden. Is this terribad?

TY

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10-24-2011 , 03:12 PM
omg just got crushed worse than i've ever been crushed anywhere before at any type of poker i think! lol



lost 100 bucks in 200 hands, damn

looks like about 30 bucks was due to tilt tbh tho

oh wells, gonna take break and regroup and maybe play later
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10-24-2011 , 03:36 PM
ok just as a follow up

i played this afternoon after not playing for a week. i started out with too many tables and felt rushed. i was tired and a bit hungover from last night. i was distracted by skype.

i basically did EVERYTHING wrong regarding my normal approach to grinding, and felt like i could get away with it since i was playing below my limits. after looking over my hands just now, although i did run very poorly, i also played extremely poorly and deserved to lose.

frustrated with myself but i suppose i needed a reminder regarding professionalism.

going to resume the grind tonight or tomorrow with a better approach.
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10-24-2011 , 03:42 PM
did the same thing today. woke up after 3 hours sleep and moved up to 25nl and just drank red bull to keep me up.

pretty good way to destroy the emotional threshold imo
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10-24-2011 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
ok just as a follow up

i played this afternoon after not playing for a week. i started out with too many tables and felt rushed. i was tired and a bit hungover from last night. i was distracted by skype.

i basically did EVERYTHING wrong regarding my normal approach to grinding, and felt like i could get away with it since i was playing below my limits. after looking over my hands just now, although i did run very poorly, i also played extremely poorly and deserved to lose.

frustrated with myself but i suppose i needed a reminder regarding professionalism.

going to resume the grind tonight or tomorrow with a better approach.
I totally can feel you. This is exatcly me. I grind while sometimes do multitasking skype/share HH with friends or Sean/cry about bad beats and im not focused 100% . This keep me out of my A game but my main problem is that i get frustrated very easy especially after a bad run or some beats or hands that i shouldnt like KKvsAA or AKvsQQ. I get so frustrated that i feel like i want to "punish" myself and i grind more and more and end up do long sessions only to "punish" myself.
I dont know if u can understand me completly , but i would love to hear your routine while u play before/during/after session.
Maybe if some top players help me with the mindset i have be like them one day
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10-24-2011 , 05:23 PM
gogogogo
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10-24-2011 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
ok just as a follow up... i ...deserved to lose.
Skraper approves of this (slightly modified) post.
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10-24-2011 , 09:54 PM
played another session and played well and won back about half of what i lost in the first session, so decent damage control

some people were asking about how to recover from a terrible session, and how to approach the grind in general, so here are a few random thoughts:

after a bad session
- be honest with yourself. don't try to lie and say that it was all just bad luck or try to convince yourself you truly just run worse than everyone else. it is very important to be able to review your play and admit your mistakes and try to learn from them and not repeat them, rather than just live in denial. its your own damn fault, so own it. that's not to say we don't truly actually run badly sometimes, but very often we make it worse than it really needs to be by compounding bad luck with bad play.

- move on. once you accept your mistakes, let them go and focus on the future. don't think about the high water mark on your graph. don't think about how much you were on pace to win. none of that matters anymore. it's a lifelong grind. take a few hours or even a few days off until you don't feel all worked up about it anymore, then just remind yourself you're a human being like anyone else and no one is perfect and you played badly and will inevitably do it again and it's ok we all will. it's over and all that matters now is doing your best in your next session.

grinding
- don't play tired
- don't play hungover
- don't play in any generally weakened state
- don't play when emotional (recent conflict with friends/family/girlfriend for example)
- don't play when you have a set stop time in front of you (you have to leave for school in an hour)
- turn off the distractions like skype and the tv
- don't play so many tables that you feel rushed
- don't snap act, think it through
- always ask yourself what your opponent's range looks like on every action
- take a short break every hour or two
- if you feel pissed about something that happened at the tables (big or small), immediately sit out all tables (don't wait for blinds) and take a 2min break
- look around the tables and have a game plan for how you are going to approach each individual table
- look at each specific opponent and think about how you are going to play against them specifically
- don't be a lazy ass about game selection, use those waitlists
- mark hands in HEM using the little checkbox on the HH pop-up
- keep a little journal of things you are trying to work on and just type a quick sentence or two after each session and read it before each session
- poker is serious business. treat it with respect and like a business and you will have better results. it can still be fun, but just don't act like you're just playing some random call of duty to pass the time, you are trying to earn money.

i broke all the rules today like a noob and paid the price. i got myself back on track later in the day tho and had a good session and will continue with positive grinding going forward. sometimes we all make mistakes and need a little reminder that we need to be putting forth our best effort to have consistently good results.

there's a LOT more to say and i could go on and on forever but i have to do a sweat with a student now so i'll leave it at this

hope this helps someone

Last edited by benjamin barker; 10-24-2011 at 10:00 PM.
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10-24-2011 , 10:58 PM
This is so good.
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10-25-2011 , 12:22 AM
Amazing posts ITT.
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