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08-26-2018 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nomalice
h2 fish is folding pps ott
TIL
08-27-2018 , 02:08 AM
Why dont you just bumhunt regs? You are only one who can explotie perfectly in the pool and have perfecto river balance going on. Since you struggle so much vs fish because they dont understand which awsome plays you make. that deservers folds at the river after you have made amazing flop and turn sizes and check backs.
You do know you outplay yourself by now?
08-27-2018 , 02:18 AM
You had everyone fooled when you told the 2+2 world you was gonna crush the fishes with hours of play money and cent studdy.
Get of the egotrain and realize fishes thinks you are bad. And regs think youre a whale.
You got alot of motivation. You just need to realize a couple of things around yourself and game. Its not this complicated. 90% of the readers of this thread finds it entertaining of all the bs going on at so many levels. So dont fool yourself. Youre brain is gonna melt during a session if you dont stop this overthinking. You mention something about being paranoid. Dont bring that to the table. You got some moves, stop being obsessed and fancy other players. Do your own thing, things you understand. And stop those bs sizings and stupid bluffs. No1 folds trips in many of your hh. All in your head senor!
08-27-2018 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
I mean. What the actual ****? You think playing vs fish takes some sophisticated strategy?
I think it's hard, they are so unpredictable. I'm not sure if betting big for value otf is better than small to induce

btw, here is the HU match! vaaaamoooo

08-27-2018 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Vo2Max
You had everyone fooled when you told the 2+2 world you was gonna crush the fishes with hours of play money and cent studdy.
Get of the egotrain and realize fishes thinks you are bad. And regs think youre a whale.
You got alot of motivation. You just need to realize a couple of things around yourself and game. Its not this complicated. 90% of the readers of this thread finds it entertaining of all the bs going on at so many levels. So dont fool yourself. Youre brain is gonna melt during a session if you dont stop this overthinking. You mention something about being paranoid. Dont bring that to the table. You got some moves, stop being obsessed and fancy other players. Do your own thing, things you understand. And stop those bs sizings and stupid bluffs. No1 folds trips in many of your hh. All in your head senor!
First serious post by you since the thread started! Yeah, you are right about me complicating things, but I feel this game is too complex to not to. I feel if I make a lot of simplifications they could end bad for me. But maybe youre right, sowiet wings is cbet and x/j overpairs in 3-bet pots and getting called by AQ high no draw vs other regs, maybe its a good idea to simplify and let people make mistakes and level themselves.
08-27-2018 , 05:35 AM
Sorry, drunk post here and there. Just want you to see how stupid it is to brag. Stay humble.

Lost the post and dont have time to make new.
You should try to play more abc poker it works great all the way thru nl200.
Play normal tables and not fast poker.
Go back to who you are.* Fearless, spewy but fearless!*Look at the differanse in you post flop game. Redline indicate all the new fix ide you got every week + copy others is not working out.
*You now got experience and knowledge and should be able to play a more balanced laggy style*. Do not fancy hm numbers or what others have.
Im sure things works out if you calm down. Go over to 4 tbl normal tbls and print.
Motivation you have is great! Gl
08-27-2018 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
First serious post by you since the thread started! Yeah, you are right about me complicating things, but I feel this game is too complex to not to. I feel if I make a lot of simplifications they could end bad for me. But maybe youre right, sowiet wings is cbet and x/j overpairs in 3-bet pots and getting called by AQ high no draw vs other regs, maybe its a good idea to simplify and let people make mistakes and level themselves.
the game is super complicated and no human will ever be able to perfectly solve the game and play perfectly or make perfect adjustments. And that is exactly why we need to simplify and create some more general guidelines to follow which are not perfect but close enough to the point we don't start making massive mistakes
08-27-2018 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
really? for 25%?

I have 0 clue on playing fish, specially in 3-bet pots, what strategy do you use?

I usually just range cbet for small with my crap and good hands, with some SDV that won't get much value I check back to induce bluffs.

OTT I bluff with equity while giving up OTR vs them, is this decent? Or am I playing it very wrong?

I also sometimes bet big OTF and shut down later in the boards without A or K
Your sizing OTT might be a ‘computer sizing’ and good vs regulars etc, but if you have no idea how fish play vs it then wtf are you trying to achieve by using it, you have no idea how to play rivers clearly. Its extrmely simple to think of a turn sizing strategy vs fish here (doesnt have to be balanced) given dynamics and ranges composition in this spot that is both very profitable and easy to predict exactly how recs will respond so river play is transparent. Youll waste a lot of energy trying to replicate solver play vs recreationals in a spot like this where the need for balance goes out of the window
08-27-2018 , 01:42 PM
So is it good to always bluff turn for 50%, never continue otr, valuebet bigger, check back all SDV planning to call AX otr? As well as some pp vs small sizing while overfolding vs big sizings?
08-27-2018 , 02:27 PM
Not exactly what i was saying, you missed the point i was trying to make.

Trying to replicate a solver vs recreationals will not net you the most money, unless you think given how recreationals play it will be maximally exploitative. Given that you said you have no idea how recreationals will play vs turn sizing, it suggests to me that you bet the turn this size because thats what you think a solver will do. Theres no thought process to designing your betsizings based upon how you expect in game your opponent will play. By default we will likely play a more ‘vacuum’y’ strategy vs recreationals in general, but it doesnt have to be as cut and dry as you make it in your post above.

Tl;dr - think about how you expect your opponent will behave vs different turn sizings when designing your strategy, rather than betting a sizing because a solver tells you to
08-27-2018 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by psek1
Not exactly what i was saying, you missed the point i was trying to make.

Trying to replicate a solver vs recreationals will not net you the most money, unless you think given how recreationals play it will be maximally exploitative. Given that you said you have no idea how recreationals will play vs turn sizing, it suggests to me that you bet the turn this size because thats what you think a solver will do. Theres no thought process to designing your betsizings based upon how you expect in game your opponent will play. By default we will likely play a more ‘vacuum’y’ strategy vs recreationals in general, but it doesnt have to be as cut and dry as you make it in your post above.

Tl;dr - think about how you expect your opponent will behave vs different turn sizings when designing your strategy, rather than betting a sizing because a solver tells you to
I dont use solvers, was trying to test how fish reacts to that small sizing

could you say what would you do in that spot with each of those hands?

AK
AA
QQ
T9
A5

It would be a great help for me, thanks
08-27-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I think it's hard, they are so unpredictable. I'm not sure if betting big for value otf is better than small to induce



btw, here is the HU match! vaaaamoooo





The **** has Brokenstars been teaching you? Not in a million years are you good enough to be winning in an all reg line up and if you cant figure out how to beat fish(most your money comes from fish) you shouldn’t be playing at all.

Also whats this induce nonsense? You give them the option to make calling mistakes, which fish do a lot. Go figure. I just taught you more than your coach ever has for free.

You’re welcome.
08-27-2018 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I dont use solvers, was trying to test how fish reacts to that small sizing

could you say what would you do in that spot with each of those hands?

AK
AA
QQ
T9
A5

It would be a great help for me, thanks
It is so easy to beat fish, why are you even asking this? You don't need to do any studying. Their leaks are obvious to spot and they rarely adjust.
08-27-2018 , 03:58 PM
how did u get action vs a fish wtf?
08-27-2018 , 08:50 PM
Played today, only 1 bad hand, but will post another hand I think is interesting

H1: OTT in theory it's a check with AA, right? with Ad it's more of a check imo, but meh, guy was a station and went for it. I think it's better to just x/j turn vs that kind of guy who is a fish/regfish

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 91.96 BB
Hero (SB): 144.02 BB
BB: 102.26 BB
UTG: 262.62 BB
MP: 196 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.42 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7.58 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) Q 8 2
Hero bets 10.36 BB, CO calls 10.36 BB

Turn: (41.72 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 20.6 BB, CO calls 20.6 BB

River: (82.92 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 59.2 BB, CO calls 59.04 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 53%, Turn 70%)
CO shows J T (Straight, King High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 47%, Turn 30%)
CO wins 197 BB



H2: vs fish, is this what you guys were talking about playing vs fish? Is this a good play or I got lucky the guy spazzed out?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 131.42 BB
Hero (SB): 146.94 BB
BB: 96.68 BB
UTG: 102 BB
MP: 92.08 BB
CO: 178.56 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 2 players) 8 K 3
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (25 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

River: (39 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, UTG bets 38 BB, Hero calls 38 BB

Spoiler:
UTG shows T A (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 32%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)
(Pre 68%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 111 BB


H3: SOWIET WINGS! VAAAAMO! haha. Funny to see how good that guy is vs fish, studying his plays paid off like 10x more times than studying quasselinho's game and elusivemark games

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 179.76 BB
Hero (SB): 151.32 BB
BB: 141.78 BB
UTG: 279.48 BB
MP: 141.9 BB
CO: 94 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, CO calls 12 BB, fold

Flop: (34 BB, 2 players) T 5 4
Hero bets 8.38 BB, CO calls 8.38 BB

Turn: (50.76 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, Hero raises to 127.94 BB and is all-in, CO calls 49.62 BB and is all-in

River: (192 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
Hero shows T Q (Two Pair, Tens and Fours)
(Pre 45%, Flop 72%, Turn 80%)
CO shows A 2 (Two Pair, Fours and Twos)
(Pre 55%, Flop 28%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 188 BB
08-27-2018 , 09:30 PM
sowiet wings clearly showing how highly he regards your game. lul.

H2 actually wp
08-27-2018 , 11:13 PM
I am not to sure how to post images but someone was saying its not easy to beat fish cause to many call and there is no way i can win over 10 bb win rate that its harder then playing the higher stakes and good player at mid stakes would struggle at micros just like Doug. That is the comedy central. I said what is the limit you want to play and he said 4nl. I even let him rail me to so he can see how easy it is. I guess he winning at 3bb win rate he thought was good and I laughed and said its terrible. he said i will see how hard it is. I played last night and today about 7k at 4nl and a little bit at 10nl before i just got to bored. And no I am not showing my stats or teaching people how to play poker. You guys gotta figure it out on your own. This is not rocket science. Just picture a monkey on the other end playing poker against you pushing buttons. Its that simple thats the level they are on. If you can't beat a monkey you got some serious issues. The funny part was on 1 table they were colluding at 4nl haha. Same 3 player raise and min reraise. I had AA and shoved pre to see what they would do. All 3 called one had K4 other had 65 other had QT. And i lost the pot. I just left the table but thought its funny they collude at 4nl.

I am trying to get the pic to post it wont. All try again.
08-27-2018 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
I am not to sure how to post images but someone was saying its not easy to beat fish cause to many call and there is no way i can win over 10 bb win rate that its harder then playing the higher stakes and good player at mid stakes would struggle at micros just like Doug. That is the comedy central. I said what is the limit you want to play and he said 4nl. I even let him rail me to so he can see how easy it is. I guess he winning at 3bb win rate he thought was good and I laughed and said its terrible. he said i will see how hard it is. I played last night and today about 7k at 4nl and a little bit at 10nl before i just got to bored. And no I am not showing my stats or teaching people how to play poker. You guys gotta figure it out on your own. This is not rocket science. Just picture a monkey on the other end playing poker against you pushing buttons. Its that simple thats the level they are on. If you can't beat a monkey you got some serious issues. The funny part was on 1 table they were colluding at 4nl haha. Same 3 player raise and min reraise. I had AA and shoved pre to see what they would do. All 3 called one had K4 other had 65 other had QT. And i lost the pot. I just left the table but thought its funny they collude at 4nl.

I am trying to get the pic to post it wont. All try again.
What site?
08-27-2018 , 11:19 PM
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they were colluding at 4nl
Quote:
Same 3 player raise and min reraise. I had AA and shoved pre to see what they would do. All 3 called one had K4 other had 65 other had QT. And i lost the pot
Spoiler:
08-27-2018 , 11:24 PM
https://imgur.com/AsM8qjq

I don't know why the picture don't post. But please lets top the comedy central how midstakes players are gonna struggle at micros. That is the most hilarious thing I ever heard. I won almost at 30bb win rate at 6 max. I can put in 100k hands and win at that rate. I am not gonna waste my time doing that. This was cake. I only played 6 tables put in about 8 or 9 hrs watching tv, having my feet kicked up on the table, listening to music. I wasn't even trying hard. So its definitely beatable even today. He couldn't believe i was beating it so easily. I don't understand what the difficulty is people are having. You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table. Then your playing real poker and its definitely not easier to beat then micros. Lets get that straight.... His theory was that at 200nl players actually play poker and fold so its easier *smh* Love this thread though pretty funny stuff.

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 08-27-2018 at 11:30 PM.
08-27-2018 , 11:37 PM
You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.

You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.

You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.

You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.

You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.

You get up to 200nl then it gets much tougher then its time to turn off the tv and get the feet come off the table.


Spoiler:
vaaaaamooooo
08-27-2018 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerforumposter
What site?
I played on intertops. They give 35% rake back on that site. You get like bonus stuff on intertops too. Its a good site to play on if your a grinder and want to play bad regs and fish all day. Software is garbage though and sometimes my hud stops working for no reason. You gotta take the good with the bad on these fishy sites.
08-27-2018 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I think it's hard, they are so unpredictable. I'm not sure if betting big for value otf is better than small to induce

btw, here is the HU match! vaaaamoooo

man this is hilarious i got the pop corn out
08-28-2018 , 01:22 AM
wp played both players gg. You guys should stream on twitch.
08-28-2018 , 08:10 PM
Played today, really fun playing deep stacked, quite funny to see how afraid I was to play deep because I was afraid I would get stacked so much by not being capable of folding FHS/flushes or going too aggro and bluffing stacks in bad spots. But I think I'm doing really well playing deep despite not having much experience playing like that.

This is my graph while playing with >110bbs since my shot at 50z on september. I used to reset my stacks with 110bbs then 120bbs.



But things are getting weird pre-flop, I'm afraid of playing OOP super deep, so thinking about developing a cold calling range from the SB.

Worst hand of the day

Pre-flop was an exploit vs BB which wasn't defending enough, OTF it's std imo, OTT it's marginal but after the 25% OTF I think they float so much garbage OTF that they end up folding a lot OTT. Now OTR it's very bad to bluff for this sizing, I think a 33% bet would have close to the same fold equity while needing way less odds, also villain will almost always fold his flush draws no matter which sizing. Just burning a lot of money in there OTR.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 223.7 BB
SB: 146.44 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 196.04 BB
MP: 128.42 BB
CO: 133.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 3

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.32 BB, SB calls 1.82 BB, fold

Flop: (5.64 BB, 2 players) 2 5 9
SB checks, Hero bets 1.38 BB, SB calls 1.38 BB

Turn: (8.4 BB, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, SB calls 8 BB

River: (24.4 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero bets 17.38 BB, SB calls 17.38 BB

Spoiler:
Hero shows J 3 (High Card, Jack)
(Pre 30%, Flop 14%, Turn 9%)
SB shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 70%, Flop 86%, Turn 91%)
SB wins 56.2 BB



Special hand of the day: It's funny to see how much it takes for this guy to fold AK/AA in there, and he also tanked for 20s OTR, I don't know who is crazier: him for stationing that much in a pool that always has 77 in there always OTF or me trying to bluff someone like that lol. Vs population I'm folding flop and he called until the river haha

Spoiler:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 417.74 BB
SB: 615.6 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 356.64 BB
MP: 174.82 BB
CO: 149.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 6

Hero raises to 2.32 BB, fold, CO calls 2.32 BB, fold, SB raises to 9.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.18 BB, CO calls 7.18 BB

Flop: (29.5 BB, 3 players) K 7 2
SB bets 15.42 BB, Hero raises to 39 BB, fold, SB calls 23.58 BB

Turn: (107.5 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 77.62 BB, SB calls 77.62 BB

River: (262.74 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 230.52 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 258.74 BB

Spoiler:
vaaaaaamoooooooo!!!

      
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