wtfffff, i have been totally destroyed in these! gg wp fu

ballin hard

damn nice, is that the best reward from bronze chests?

they have us all drooling over 100$ in rb
wp amaya

oh yeah, 20evbb is unreal
congrats

I have no idea if 100 is the jackpot - doubt it.
Indeed its kinda sad when u realize how happy u are when this is just a fraction
of the money we used to earn.
Guess opening 20 cent chests for 3 consecutive months does this to you.

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Hate bashing regs (in public ) but this one.. how did he even get past 10nl?





Like - what is the thought process here?
Ok you check flop its not super favorable for the 3bettor oop.
So far so good.
My question obviously is:
What is he jamming against (look at the sizing)??
Vs my bluffs?? LOL wp
Vs my value?? LOL wp
Vs my semi bluffs (if I have any - and if i do so u are flippin)?? LOL wp

Why am I getting so upset with people being so horrendous even when they
make me money? Am I the only one?
Really gotta move up to 500 permanently but its so hard to get myself to
play when single:multitabler ratio at 200 is like 60:40 when at 500 its
quite the opposite.
THe fact that this ukrainian gentleman (thats all Ill give away)
plays 200z on regular basis is almost an insult to any 25nl+ grinder.

Why is it so bad?
I know check-calling is better vs your bluffs, but if he makes a really aggressive check-jamming range there with a good part of his value range + tons of bluffs like KQcc, how is your range interacting vs that?

I don't know how often you're betting this size OTF, but if you chose that sizing, then you should be checking a bunch back, are you checking AJ back or valuebetting in a smaller sizing?

I see merits for his play, specially vs someone calling big 3-bets with JTo. Even though this board hits your range way more than his, if you're calling that wide pre, you can have a ton of 85s/75s/KQ/J7s that would be in a really tough spot vs a jam.

From what I read in your thread, you play a very exploitative style, so could it be that you're almost always nutted in your overbet? Like 2p+ with J9 as a bluff? Then his move is really bad vs that, but if you play your range like that, he can exploit you by check-raising a ton when you use a smaller sizing or bet big with a high frequency when you check back.

Meh. Your size forces commitment. What's a guy to do? He doesn't wanna fold and hates most of the deck.

It's very subjective. He could be hurdling money in with sub 40% equity especially when called, but it's tough to know what's right with limited reads and in game pressure. Forcing a fold (even if it's gutshot or 3rd pair) isn't all that awful and could be optimal in certain situations

Its by no means a standard sizing. I wil use it very occasionaly and when I do so there wont be close to any semi bluffs in my range. It just makes no sense to force myself to play for stack there with some pair+gutter type of hand since i got sdv.
So basically when I use this sizing you are either to get snapcalled or wil get a snap fold (and once called one pair hands wont fare so well).
JTo is very loose indeed - usually its just a fold vs BBs tightish 3betting range but Im going to show up with it very occasionaly and mostly vs players where I think my postflop edge can more then make up for the loose call.

To make this very long story short:
When I overbet stab flop AA is a bluffcatcher. You dont jam your bluffcatchers into polarized ranges or ever fastplay far ahead-far behind spots. Its among the 1st lessons they teach u as soon as u start approaching poker more seriously.
Of all the options (call, fold, jam) jam seems to be absolutely the worst one.
The only reason why he jams is simply the pressure and no idea what to do.
So he say to himself: I got aces lets get over with this. Jam right there so no decision later.
When u really think about it - this board although very connected wont bring
too many scarecards OTT. In fact scarecards may even be saving him some money.
Im mostly repping made hands and air. Thats why draw completing cards
are more likely to spoil MY action than HIS - and most importantly:
These scarecards - they DONT REALLY IMPROVE ME.
If I overbet semibluff in order to fold to a jam then im doing something
wrong with my hand seleciton here obviously.

At least it gives plenty of material for discussion
Thank u both for the input!
I stand at the point of view that jam is OBVIOUSLY BY FAR the worst he can do. It forces me to play perfectly.

You miss the main point that he doesn't think your over bet is polarized, as others have said, it's marginal but I don't know what you expect, you have the image of a button clicking thing.

Also Oro, I may be in a minority but I found reading this paragraph painful. Just so you know the answer to the highlighted bit is ego.

He might have seen your redline aswell

Haha when you put it this way it does sound horrible indeed.
As for the ego part - that might be spot on as well. Im fine now compared to
how I used to be. Im sometimes taking myself too seriously when it comes
to poker. Its such a huge part of my life and I try to look at it more from
an art/psychological perspective than a dry scientiffic one.. and when I see something like this if feels like someone taking a dump on Mona Lisa.
Like a total disprespect for the game kind of thing..
I dont mind fish doing it for they dont know better - its only
regs that trigger me..

Ive had a discussion with a fellow grinder last summer.
I said that I slowrolled a guy intentionally just because he had no respect
for the game. It never occured to me to slowroll someone before that moment. It was some BTN vs BB spot I believe and i had AQ.
He checkcalled twice then donkjammed river (for nearly 3x pot) on
AAQ37 - obv hit his boat too. Now...I should snapcall and go on with my life
but no, at this moment I felt I should punish him since to me it was
super obvious that he was trying to cooler me. That greediness - not even
waiting for me to bet (my entire calling range very likely bets again).
Even talking about it now still makes me wanna kick him in the nuts
He thought that my reasoning was ridiculous while i believed (still do)
it was totally deserved.

That hand I posted above got me to feel in a similar way. Its almost anger.
Now pls someone tell me they felt something similar at some point -
If not I should obv see a shrink.

This is blasphemy! This is madness! Madness?

get ready boyz

try looking at it like this...

he is just a person playing a game to the best of his abilities
the fact that he is not as good as you, shouldn't trigger you imo

we are all different...
some study a lot and are motivated to learn as much as they can,some don't
some learn concepts quickly and easily, some don't

him trying his best but not meeting you're expectations doesn't deserve a slow role either imo

Thank you Pop

This is the perspective I usually lack. I should print out the bolded part and put it above my screen.

I think I could be much happier If I would not put so much emotion into it but
studying my opponents game so much makes everything way more personal.
My entire attitude when in the pool is the one of a pack of wolves fighting for survival.
I never looked at it from a more distant point of view. What you said there may sound very simple but to me its insanely eye opening.
Dont get me wrong when I say I put emotion in it its not like im all happy or all rage when grinding - its more of a connection I am establishing with the villain.
That connection most of the time goes one way- I get that, but to me it is of great essence to try and understand why they do what they do. To get into their heads.
Otherwise poker would give me not so much joy.
The downside is that knowing someone well (their game) makes every encounter feel more personal even though they are just clicking their buttons as they usually do.

This could be ahuge step for me towards not only becoming a better player
(dealing with the game in general) - but also becoming happier with what I
do. At this point poker does unnecessarily drain a bunch of my good energy.
I could have used this time to do something fun instead but no -I had to go
ahead and post that hand.
I hope im at a turning point in regard of the issues I mentioned.
And you deserve a drink - at least

Didn't expect much starting this blog but what I expected the least was therapy.


Lets finish with a fitting quote. Heard this one long time ago but
had forgotten about it until now.

“In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game

A guy maybe misplayed a hand and you're acting like this. Get a grip. I've seen you "maybe" missplay hands the same way he has. Grow up.

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I'm guessing calling is most likely better than shoving here but assuming you are playing a balanced strategy with your sizing then shoving can't be as bad as you make it sound, you'll get a lot better once you start giving credits to other player's plays, or at least verify it before criticizing it

Hello there dear follower.
Could it be you are over reacting a bit here
Terms as grow up and get a grip? I may never "grow up" but I have most
certainly not lost a grip just for criticizing someone on my own blog.
How did you get that idea?
After all u agree its a missplay missplay hands the same way he has
u just dont seem to like me posting about it.
Maybe I should ask your permission and blessing next time I decide to post something in my blog?
I dare you to find one hand of mine where I made a similar misplay -
in terms "value(raise)jamming" into a polarized range.
U may have seen me make other misplays for sure - u may also have seen
me do things that make no sense to you at all. Thats not the point.

You know whats sad.
All this time u've been lurking, soaking in every word I ever said and its
just now that u came out from under your rock when finally you found a reason to post something negative . Think about it.




Hello to you too. Now this is a comment i surely can work with. Thanks.
As for the bolded part I have to disagree.
Assuming I am perfectly balanced it means he makes no money on his jam.
He wil just get called by my value range with an appropraite frequency.
His play is has zero EV. He can just fold right away as well.
However here is the mistake.. although his jam makes no money
it "accomplishes" one thing: It forces me to play perfectly.
He robs me of the possibility of bluffing a future street cutting directly into his own profits. Its like playing the "AKQ" game and checkrasing all in when u hold the K.

Im not sure if thats what u were thinking but bottom line is.
If I am balanced this jam is very bad and if I am unbalanced (most likely)
Ill be weighted too much towards either bluffs or value - vs both jam
becomes even worse.

As for respecting others more - Ill have to work on that but some
make it so damn hard on me

Aids on this page.

His line is bad, your line is bad. whats the point?

The hand is quite sensitive to assumptions though. You are obviously in the right if appropriately perfectly polarized between two pair and zero equity, but just a fraction of bluffs with some sort of equity switches him to jam/fold mix. So all he has to think for it to be a not only acceptable but the best option is that you are capable of messing up a small % of the time and bet a bluff with equity. I'm sure given the ego discussion above you can understand how that thought might cross his mind. We can't trust our opponents to not make mistakes, can we?

And all of this is assuming he isn't just tilted or confused and spazzes.

outrageous ! def worth the 500 words description !

time to go back to the cave

Looking at your flop play I can see the same pattern in your thinking process also. Deny equity and fold out huge part of his bluffcatchers/floats????

this isn't true, unless you mean it makes him indifferent, which is still not completely correct (AA most likely is, but QQ probably isn't)

edit: ye AA is indifferent and QQ isn't, and both are obv not 0ev... so you may have a misunderstanding in game theory here

I dont have much to add and honestly im fed up with 2p2 and proving rights&wrongs.
This was the very last discussion worthy hand I posted.
Ill continue blogging in terms of monthly updates or whatever comes to my mind.
Thanks to everyone contributing or at least honestly trying to contribute.
The fact there is people out there (haters) following this closely but never having anything nice to say makes me not want to share any more insights.
WP, gg - enjoy your mondays.