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12-12-2014 , 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by meale
I think it's pretty horrible for him to bet river there tbh but wp. :P BTW your 5 high straight flush is nothing compared to my K high straight flush yesterday. glglgllgl
Yeah, a K-high straight flush is good if you're into that sort of thing, but I had this happen last week:

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33351891

    Hero (BTN): $8.90 (178 bb)
    SB: $7.22 (144.4 bb)
    BB: $6.74 (134.8 bb)
    UTG: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
    MP: $6.95 (139 bb)
    CO: $5.78 (115.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.37) Q J A (2 players)
    MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    Turn: ($0.77) K (2 players)
    MP bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1.67 pot ($0.07 rake)
    Final Board: Q J A K
    Hero mucked T K and won $1.60 ($0.80 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$0.80 net)



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    12-12-2014 , 09:46 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
    Yeah, a K-high straight flush is good if you're into that sort of thing, but I had this happen last week:

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33351891

      Hero (BTN): $8.90 (178 bb)
      SB: $7.22 (144.4 bb)
      BB: $6.74 (134.8 bb)
      UTG: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
      MP: $6.95 (139 bb)
      CO: $5.78 (115.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with T K
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.37) Q J A (2 players)
      MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.77) K (2 players)
      MP bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1, MP folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $1.67 pot ($0.07 rake)
      Final Board: Q J A K
      Hero mucked T K and won $1.60 ($0.80 net)
      MP mucked and lost (-$0.80 net)



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      Not half bad. But have you lost with quad kings to a royal? Didn't think so.
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      12-12-2014 , 10:01 PM
      2 hands I wanted to analyse:


        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33351901

        BTN: $8.42 (168.4 bb)
        SB: $6.50 (130 bb)
        BB: $8.13 (162.6 bb)
        Hero (UTG): $11.82 (236.4 bb)
        MP: $10.72 (214.4 bb)
        CO: $5.46 (109.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8 8
        Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

        Flop: ($0.80) 8 T J (5 players)
        SB bets $0.57, Hero calls $0.57, MP calls $0.57, CO folds, BTN calls $0.57

        Turn: ($3.08) 9 (4 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20, BTN calls $2.20, SB folds

        River: ($9.68) 7 (3 players)
        Hero checks, MP bets $4.10, 2 folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $9.68 pot ($0.40 rake)
        Final Board: 8 T J 9 7
        BTN mucked and lost (-$2.92 net)
        Hero mucked 8 8 and lost (-$2.92 net)
        MP mucked and won $9.28 ($6.36 net)



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        MP was 87/0 over 5 hands.

        What a disgusting board
        And how often do you have 5 players to the flop in 6max when you hit a set? *Sigh*
        My biggest regret is not raising the flop.
        I wanted to find out if my fold was +EV here (or just not as -EV if I called)
        After all, what were the odds that the guy had a Queen if he was betting the flop?



        These are the hands he'd be betting with, if I go with a 87% VPIP, which in all likelihood was over-estimated.

        EV = (0.397 x $13.78) + (0.603 x -$4.10)
        EV = +3
        (To call, would be +3EV I mean.)

        Well, poo...





          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33351911

          BTN: $2.43 (48.6 bb)
          SB: $15.65 (313 bb)
          Hero (BB): $5.57 (111.4 bb)
          UTG: $2.45 (49 bb)
          MP: $4.20 (84 bb)
          CO: $6.02 (120.4 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 9
          3 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB completes, Hero checks

          Flop: ($0.15) 6 A Q (3 players)
          SB checks, Hero bets $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB folds

          Turn: ($0.25) 2 (2 players)
          Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

          River: ($0.45) 2 (2 players)
          Hero bets $0.43, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.25, BTN calls $1.23

          Spoiler:
          Results: $4.91 pot ($0.20 rake)
          Final Board: 6 A Q 2 2
          BTN showed K J and won $4.71 ($2.28 net)
          Hero showed 5 9 and lost (-$2.43 net)



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          Villain was 21/0 over 27 hands.


          Hands he's raising me with on the river, I'm 75%, ok cool.

          EV = (0.75 x $1.88) + (0.25 x -$0.57)
          EV = + 1.27

          WELL, POO!

          Lessons learned:
          I'm not always as behind as I think I am.
          Going to chalk this one up to a small miscalculation, but now I know a bit more about my EV in these situations. As I read somewhere today; we learn more from our losses than our wins, and I'd have to agree!
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          12-12-2014 , 10:02 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by meale
          Not half bad. But have you lost with quad kings to a royal? Didn't think so.
          Oh dear God, come now, let us remember our wins...

          *Ahhh*, that's better.
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          12-12-2014 , 10:46 PM
          Hand 1… obviously you know flop was bad. I know the prospect of calling and letting ten other players call behind is attractive but look at the texture, must be a raise. Also I think on the river it's a super easy fold. The fact that MP is 87/0 should tell you he can have literally sixteen thousand combos of Qx and also if he's the passive type, he's not gonna bluff river very often. Your flopzilla only has a few Qx combos.

          H2… think the call is okay vs 5nl unk but I'm pretty indifferent on river.
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          12-13-2014 , 03:03 AM
          I just hit Silver Star status on PS, first time ever! Woo!

          Made up for a -5BI session earlier today (I have to stop playing first thing in the morning...) By getting a +8BI session done just now. Par for the course.

          Highlight: Had KK cracked by AA and really didn't give a ****, kept playing solid.
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          12-13-2014 , 04:37 PM
          How many tables of zoom are you playing ?
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          12-13-2014 , 05:16 PM
          Grats m8

          silverstar with 7-8 normal nl5 tables is easy... so with zoom it should be easier
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          12-13-2014 , 05:41 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Bocavi
          How many tables of zoom are you playing ?
          I am playing 2 tables of 2c/5c 6max zoom.

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Ksfz
          Grats m8

          silverstar with 7-8 normal nl5 tables is easy... so with zoom it should be easier
          Cheers!
          Yeah compared to reg tables, zoom makes life easier in that regard.

          Question; Is there a difference in "5NL" vs. "NL5" ? I mean is one 5 cents BB and the other is $5 BB? Or are they interchangeable?
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          12-13-2014 , 06:47 PM
          Both the same.
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          12-13-2014 , 06:48 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by meale
          Both the same.
          OK so is there a way to tell when someone is talking about $2/$5 or 2c/5c?
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          12-13-2014 , 07:10 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
          OK so is there a way to tell when someone is talking about $2/$5 or 2c/5c?
          2c/5c = 5NL
          $2/$5 = 500NL
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          12-13-2014 , 07:21 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by meale
          2c/5c = 5NL
          $2/$5 = 500NL
          Omg really...
          I always thought 500NL was $500 BB.... :\

          Why is it called 500NL if the BB is $5? What is the relationship?
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          12-13-2014 , 07:38 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
          Omg really...
          I always thought 500NL was $500 BB.... :\

          Why is it called 500NL if the BB is $5? What is the relationship?
          It's your buyin essentially. 2c/5c you buyin 100 deep for $5. $2/$5 you buyin for 500.
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          12-15-2014 , 02:43 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
          wtf rofl
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          12-16-2014 , 07:07 PM
          Some hands I wanted to look at:


            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33424321

            BTN: $5.40 (108 bb)
            Hero (SB): $5.86 (117.2 bb)
            BB: $4.95 (99 bb)
            UTG: $2.66 (53.2 bb)
            MP: $2.17 (43.4 bb)
            CO: $6.49 (129.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with A 3
            3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.35, BB folds, BTN calls $0.20

            Flop: ($0.75) 2 4 T (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN checks

            Turn: ($0.75) 2 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $0.39, Hero calls $0.39

            River: ($1.53) 3 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $0.85, Hero raises to $2, BTN folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $3.23 pot ($0.13 rake)
            Final Board: 2 4 T 2 3
            BTN mucked and lost (-$1.59 net)
            Hero mucked A 3 and won $3.10 ($1.51 net)



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            Discussion:
            I have this image in my head now, when dealing with looser players heads-up, and that is "2 unpaired over cards." I'm finding that at least 70% of the time, that's what they have in a blinds battle. I felt I was good here, and raising on the river after 2 checked streets is not something I normally do. I guess you could say I was hoping for a call, maybe I could've sized my raise better, but on the whole I'm happy with this hand.



              Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33424331

              Hero (BTN): $7.06 (141.2 bb)
              SB: $5.87 (117.4 bb)
              BB: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
              UTG: $4.08 (81.6 bb)
              MP: $6.01 (120.2 bb)
              CO: $5.14 (102.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
              3 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB raises to $0.45, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.20, SB raises to $5.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.67

              Flop: ($11.79) K T 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              Turn: ($11.79) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              River: ($11.79) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $11.79 pot ($0.49 rake)
              Final Board: K T 3 Q 5
              Hero showed 7 7 and won $11.30 ($5.43 net)
              SB showed 4 A and lost (-$5.87 net)



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              Discussion:
              Villain was 25/25 (20 3bet) over 5 hands. I am starting to play my pocket pairs more aggressively in blind battles. I remember someone telling me to do this last year on 2+2. Once again I was picturing 2 big overcards (KQ/AQ/KJ/AK) however the villain likes to raise just about anything, albeit 5 hand samples is not ideal. Turned out I was good.


                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33424351

                BTN: $10.18 (203.6 bb)
                SB: $7.34 (146.8 bb)
                BB: $2.50 (50 bb)
                UTG: $5.01 (100.2 bb)
                MP: $5.30 (106 bb)
                Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
                2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.25, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.70, SB raises to $7.34 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.30 and is all-in

                Flop: ($10.05) 5 9 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                Turn: ($10.05) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                River: ($10.05) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $10.05 pot ($0.42 rake)
                Final Board: 5 9 6 5 3
                SB showed A A and won $9.63 ($4.63 net)
                Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$5 net)



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                Discussion:
                This was a hand about commitment. Once I'd raised to $0.70 I was over 10% invested in the hand. I was happy getting it all in here. The AA was just unlucky being the top of his range. Villain was 30/9.
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                12-16-2014 , 08:31 PM
                ...And a bonus hand that I played very poorly with preflop and got very lucky with...
                (This thread would never be complete without hands like these!)


                  Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33425171

                  BTN: $8.12 (162.4 bb)
                  SB: $9.94 (198.8 bb)
                  Hero (BB): $22.22 (444.4 bb)
                  UTG: $5.63 (112.6 bb)
                  MP: $5.65 (113 bb)
                  CO: $6.22 (124.4 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with A 9
                  UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.23, Hero calls $0.20


                  MP raises to $0.55, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30...


                  Hero calls $0.30.

                  Flop: ($2.20) Q 2 9 (4 players)


                  SB checks, Hero bets $0.95, MP raises to $5.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.15



                  Turn: ($12.40) T (2 players)

                  River: ($12.40) 4 (2 players)


                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $12.40 pot ($0.51 rake)
                  Final Board: Q 2 9 T 4
                  BTN mucked and lost (-$0.55 net)
                  SB mucked and lost (-$0.55 net)
                  Hero showed A 9 and won $11.89 ($6.24 net)
                  MP showed A A and lost (-$5.65 net)





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                  12-17-2014 , 12:22 AM
                  A3 hand you can't get called by worse when you raise. QQ hand imo is very badly misplayed. Don't worry about commitment thresholds or anything like that. Fact is, a tight passive player has min raised you and then 5bet jammed on you pre. There's no shame in folding QQ here after 4 betting although higher up would be a crime. People at 5NL aren't stacking off light pre. You'll get some regs capable of going AI with ak and qq but most often you're going to see AA or KK. You didn't necessarily run into the top of his range here when you actually consider what his range is. Imo its exclusively AA and KK vs this particular player and I'd be snapfolding this at 5NL.
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                  12-17-2014 , 12:49 AM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by meale
                  A3 hand you can't get called by worse when you raise. QQ hand imo is very badly misplayed. Don't worry about commitment thresholds or anything like that. Fact is, a tight passive player has min raised you and then 5bet jammed on you pre. There's no shame in folding QQ here after 4 betting although higher up would be a crime. People at 5NL aren't stacking off light pre. You'll get some regs capable of going AI with ak and qq but most often you're going to see AA or KK. You didn't necessarily run into the top of his range here when you actually consider what his range is. Imo its exclusively AA and KK vs this particular player and I'd be snapfolding this at 5NL.
                  Good call, now that you explain it and I think about it!

                  I mean "good call" as in good advice.
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                  12-17-2014 , 06:38 AM
                  In A3 you do understand that you are bluffing river aren't you?
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                  12-17-2014 , 04:07 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Ksfz
                  In A3 you do understand that you are bluffing river aren't you?
                  Absolutely. My comment about "I was hoping for a call" was a mistake...Sometimes I just write my discussions on autopilot...

                  I am actually considering hiring a coach part time, does anyone have any personal recommendations? Mac?

                  And in other news I hit my first rewards tier! ($10 on stars)

                  Taking a couple days off poker to clear my head, plus my eyes were starting to bulge out of my head...

                  Last edited by BlueLagoon32; 12-17-2014 at 04:18 PM.
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                  12-17-2014 , 08:21 PM
                  Woo!

                  I was actually in a studying mood so put in 30 mins of study, went over the advice in my thread, and decided to give a session a crack.

                  Up 5 buy ins over 2000 hands/3 hours.

                  Best news was since I returned to poker about a month ago, I've ground $8 up to $100 as of just now!

                  Will post some interesting hands, and a session analysis later on.
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                  12-17-2014 , 10:48 PM
                  Session analysis:
                  So todays session was a result of some (constructive) criticism from my readers. I was not thinking enough about my hands, and made some very obvious blunders, on reflection.

                  Before I hit the tables today I came up with 4 problems, and their respective solutions for me to focus on, the 4 problems were:

                  1) Stacking off with AK/TT/JJ & QQ against nits, preflop.
                  Solution = Fold more to 4bets from nits, or call a 3bet from a nit in position

                  2) Calling with a marginal hand because a loose player opened.
                  Solution = Ask myself "am I in position? (btn)" If not, fold! If I have a strong hand relative to the opener, raise! Isolate!

                  3) Over-committing to AA/KK post flop against raises on wet boards.
                  Solution = Against a loose player? Get in there! Against a tight player? Might be best to fold!

                  4) Over-committing to Top pair on the flop against tight players.
                  Solution = Occasionally slow down with Top pair, especially against tight players who are sticking around.

                  With these 4 problems and solutions in front of me in my notepad, I hit the tables and would confidently say I played my A- game. As I followed my rules, I ticked them off, to reinforce that I was indeed following them. I layed down QQ and JJ in tight spots after thinking about hands villain would be raising me with (I was crushed), and made some solid calls; one with middle set on a 3-flush and open-ender on the board, won.

                  But here are the interesting ones... I want to actually explain my thought process, I feel this will help me develop better habits in the long run.

                  HAND 1:
                    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33452311

                    BTN: $23.91 (478.2 bb)
                    SB: $8.81 (176.2 bb) (28/25/6.7 3bet)
                    BB: $10.77 (215.4 bb)
                    Hero (UTG): $13.29 (265.8 bb)
                    MP: $14.44 (288.8 bb) (no info)
                    CO: $7.69 (153.8 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is UTG with T T
                    Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.75

                    Thoughts: Against villains 3bet range of 6.7% TT is virtually a flip. I see a lot of squeezing from the blinds from the regs at 5NL and I wouldn't put it past the SB here. Finally I decide to raise, with my tight image and being UTG I thought this would reflect a much stronger hand.

                    BB folds, Hero raises to $1.55, MP calls $1.40, SB calls $0.80

                    Flop: ($4.70) 2 T 3 (3 players)

                    Thoughts: Best flop I could ask for here.

                    SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50, SB folds

                    Thoughts: I have no idea what villains stats are, I would guess he's calling with perhaps 22/33/JJ+.

                    Turn: ($9.70) 8 (2 players)

                    Thoughts: I was committed to this hand on the flop so I'm just trying to get it in there slowly.

                    Hero checks, MP bets $3.05, Hero raises to $9.24 and is all-in, MP calls $6.19

                    River: ($28.18) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $28.18 pot ($1.00 rake)
                    Final Board: 2 T 3 8 5
                    Hero showed T T and won $27.18 ($13.89 net)
                    MP showed Q Q and lost (-$13.29 net)





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                    HAND 2:
                      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33452371

                      Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)
                      SB: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
                      BB: $9.95 (199 bb) (38/31 over 10 hands)
                      UTG: $4.23 (84.6 bb)
                      MP: $5.86 (117.2 bb)
                      CO: $2.94 (58.8 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
                      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

                      Thoughts: Standard steal attempt from me here.

                      Flop: ($0.32) 9 Q 5 (2 players)

                      Thoughts: It's certainly worth a call with backdoor nut flush draw and middle pair top kicker, against a loose player such as this.

                      BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

                      Turn: ($0.72) 9 (2 players)

                      Thoughts: OK so now what could I be behind..Not much... QQ/55/95/Q9, compared to all the hands (38%...) that he'd be calling me with here, I'm sticking around.

                      BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB raises to $0.55, Hero raises to $1.20, BB raises to $9.60,

                      Thoughts: Ok he must have a strong hand to be raising me here, but with 31% PFR he would've raised me with QQ/55 so he either has a 9 or he's spewing with a Queen. I'm happy to get it in here.

                      Hero calls $3.45 and is all-in

                      River: ($10.02) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $10.02 pot ($0.42 rake)
                      Final Board: 9 Q 5 9 A
                      Hero showed 9 A and won $9.60 ($4.60 net)
                      BB showed Q 9 and lost (-$5.00 net)

                      Thoughts: Still happy with this hand even though I was actually behind on the turn. According to Flopzilla I was a 74% to win here on the turn when compared to his betting range.



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                      Last edited by BlueLagoon32; 12-17-2014 at 10:57 PM.
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                      12-18-2014 , 02:55 AM
                      ^lucky
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