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10-05-2010 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jdawg91
yep good gif, GG money sir

edit: just saw you on one of my tables; wtf is that avatar lol
Blasphemy!

That is Simon Bird from "The Inbetweeners".

Best. Show. Ever.
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10-05-2010 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
Blasphemy!

That is Simon Bird from "The Inbetweeners".

Best. Show. Ever.
never heard of it
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10-05-2010 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IamPro
never heard of it
maybe aussie only?
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10-05-2010 , 01:41 PM
^ Do yourselves a favour and check it out. Really good British comedy.

Preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqr8yPipfJ8
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10-05-2010 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
^ Do yourselves a favour and check it out. Really good British comedy.

Preview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqr8yPipfJ8
brit tho!
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10-05-2010 , 01:51 PM
Just finished a nice session. Ran pretty well, had a bunch of close spots, but made some good decisions. Punted one stack, but played pretty solid aside from that.

Regged for a few $7s and $12s, but played $2s for the most part:



Also got knee-deep in the $4.40 $5k Guarantee, but couldn't sustain my luckbox for long enough, busting in 47th out of 2555 runners:

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (UTG): t260230 M = 10.41
UTG+1: t293014 M = 11.72
MP1: t246324 M = 9.85
MP2: t29366 M = 1.17
CO: t117194 M = 4.69
BTN: t168581 M = 6.74
SB: t94885 M = 3.80
BB: t141196 M = 5.65

Pre Flop: (t25000) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to t258980 all in, 4 folds, BTN calls t167331 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t359662) Q 9 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t359662) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t359662) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t359662
Hero shows 7 7 (a pair of Sevens)
BTN shows A A (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins t359662

Will be doing some HH's reviews in the next day or two and hopefully getting in another big session also.

It's been a good start to October, but as far as I'm concerned, this is just the start

Last edited by fernythrills; 10-05-2010 at 01:55 PM. Reason: British comedy FTW
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10-05-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (UTG): t260230 M = 10.41
UTG+1: t293014 M = 11.72
MP1: t246324 M = 9.85
MP2: t29366 M = 1.17
CO: t117194 M = 4.69
BTN: t168581 M = 6.74
SB: t94885 M = 3.80
BB: t141196 M = 5.65

Pre Flop: (t25000) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises to t258980 all in, 4 folds, BTN calls t167331 all in, 2 folds

Flop: (t359662) Q 9 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t359662) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t359662) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t359662
Hero shows 7 7 (a pair of Sevens)
BTN shows A A (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins t359662

Will be doing some HH's reviews in the next day or two and hopefully getting in another big session also.

It's been a good start to October so far, but as far as I'm concerned, this is just the start
Open shoving 26bb's utg at a full table? You need to stop playing $2-180 style in MTT's =p.

Nice work on the session though bro. Still looking forward to see you accomplish your goal as it gives hope to a nub 2-180 grinder like myself.
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10-05-2010 , 01:58 PM
Thanks man.

Was a somewhat close spot, but I'm only significantly deep with 2 other players. No way I can r/f 77 here imo. Shove seemed thin, but +EV to me and I'll take any edge.

If any other grinders have thoughts on that hand, I would definitely be interested in hearing them...

Last edited by fernythrills; 10-05-2010 at 02:04 PM.
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10-05-2010 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
Was a somewhat close spot, but I'm only significantly deep with 2 other players. No way I can r/f 77 here imo. Shove seemed thin, but +EV to me and I'll take any edge.

If any other grinders have thoughts on that hand, I would def be interested in hearing them...
i just shove cuz i only know how to do A + R to shove and F to fold
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10-05-2010 , 02:04 PM
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Open shoving 26bb's utg at a full table? You need to stop playing $2-180 style in MTT's =p.
wat? So regs openshove 26bb in 180s, must be those 10% regs?


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Was a somewhat close spot, but I'm only significantly deep with 2 other players. No way I can r/f 77 here imo. Shove seemed thin, but +EV to me and I'll take any edge.

If any other grinders have thoughts on that hand, I would definitely be interested in hearing them...
r/f the bigstacks r/c the shorter stacks, that shove is -ev because of so many points.
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10-05-2010 , 02:15 PM
I think the shove is pretty thin, but still +cEV.

Whether it is the most optimal play is certainly arguable.

Will be posting it in MTT Strategy at some point... should be a good debate.

Edit: shove > open fold > raise (for me in this hand).

Here's the link to the strat thread for those who would like to follow it:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23.../#post22007589

Last edited by fernythrills; 10-05-2010 at 02:30 PM. Reason: link
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10-05-2010 , 02:18 PM
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I think the shove is pretty thin, but still +cEV.
edit:

If u don`t use any edge than it`s +cEV but still a ridic shove.

Yeah put this in MTT-Strategy and get flamed.

Last edited by Immortal-1337; 10-05-2010 at 02:23 PM.
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10-05-2010 , 02:33 PM
I'm a lagtard man, I can't help it

I will take any edge.

(Not saying I'm right, it's just my opinion... an interesting spot for sure).
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10-05-2010 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Immortal-1337

r/f the bigstacks r/c the shorter stacks, that shove is -ev because of so many points.
lol if u think its -ev

Last edited by slayerv1fan; 10-05-2010 at 02:38 PM. Reason: bruh
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10-05-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
I think the shove is pretty thin, but still +cEV.

Whether it is the most optimal play is certainly arguable.

Will be posting it in MTT Strategy at some point... should be a good debate.

Edit: shove > open fold > raise (for me in this hand).

Here's the link to the strat thread for those who would like to follow it:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23.../#post22007589
i havent clicked the link but for me it would be something like raise 2.2x > open fold > open shove. in a 180 this is a snapple fist pump high-five shove but meh. ill read the link now.
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10-05-2010 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by deanshmerk
i havent clicked the link but for me it would be something like raise 2.2x > open fold > open shove. in a 180 this is a snapple fist pump high-five shove but meh. ill read the link now.
quit reading and get skype imo
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10-05-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fernythrills
Thanks man.

Was a somewhat close spot, but I'm only significantly deep with 2 other players. No way I can r/f 77 here imo. Shove seemed thin, but +EV to me and I'll take any edge.

If any other grinders have thoughts on that hand, I would definitely be interested in hearing them...

2.3x open and folding to UTG+1 and MP1 is fine too if their 3bet/shove numbers are nitty.

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On a side note, early in 2.2 180turbo mtts, is it optimal to open shove big hands or 3/4x open?
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10-05-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by justblaze47
On a side note, early in 2.2 180turbo mtts, is it optimal to open shove big hands or 3/4x open?
I would advocate a 3x open at the early levels with the top of your range for the most part.

The only exception would be in the first hand or two of the SNG., where I would definitely consider an open shove.
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10-06-2010 , 01:23 AM
I like Deanshmerk and justblaze's lines here tbh with the 77.

Also now I know what you are open shoving 26bb's with I probably made a bad fold with AJo in the BB when you shoved 30 bb's from CO last night in a 2.20!!

GL ferny I hope not to see you too much in these tbh!
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10-06-2010 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by analoguesounds
I like Deanshmerk and justblaze's lines here tbh with the 77.

Also now I know what you are open shoving 26bb's with I probably made a bad fold with AJo in the BB when you shoved 30 bb's from CO last night in a 2.20!!

GL ferny I hope not to see you too much in these tbh!
ty sir.

It's not exactly something I make a habit of, but in certain situations, with certain holdings and stack sizes, I find it works for me.

Do you still have the HH? I can't say I remember the hand. Would be interested to see the set-up...
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10-06-2010 , 02:20 AM
I think it may have been just prior to FT bubble - maybe like 12'ish left. Does that sound right at those blind levels?

Anyway thinking about it now I don't hate my fold as you are shoving across an 18k stack and a shorty. Thought I'd be flipping at best and wanted to be shoving that hand rather than calling your big stack shove.

Actually I am still unsure. Probably a call really?

You probably had 77+ AQo+ anyway and I would have been crushed

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP: t7000 M = 3.33
CO: t30036 M = 14.30
BTN: t3367 M = 1.60
SB: t18063 M = 8.60
Hero (BB): t14820 M = 7.06
UTG: t26885 M = 12.80

Pre Flop: (t2100) Hero is BB with A J
2 folds, CO raises to t29936 all in, 3 folds

Final Pot: t3100
CO wins t3100
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10-06-2010 , 02:46 AM
Looks like the money bubble actually.

I'm not shoving 30bbs there really... I'm shoving 18 effective (and I'm only that deep vs one player).

Whether to fold or call depends on what you think my range is there obv (and also as you said, what kind of risks you are prepared to take at that stage of the tourney).
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10-06-2010 , 02:56 AM
put it this way, i like your play there better than mine!
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10-06-2010 , 03:09 AM
against ferny i'd call with only AA and even then it might be a fold
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10-06-2010 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sMoke2jointz
against ferny i'd call with only AA and even then it might be a fold
Spoiler:


Getting on the grind now. Just a short session tonight... hoping for at least 60 games.
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