H1: looks ok. That can be a blockbet from Kx or a vbet with a worse Ax.
H2: raise more ott and shove river for value. Qx never folds , many 2p dont fold.
H3: Cbet flop imho. Yes he folds a lot, but u dont induce many bluffs from this type or lighter calls from this type of guy so just bet. He is calling with all PPs. U can take a bf/bf/xf line. As played river is close. Once he checks back turn he is not bluffing river. If he cant bet thinly with Worse Ax then it is a fold. It is going to be 22 or 55 a lot. But with that sizing calling is ok.

Thx!

IDK. At least it's close.

Should have raised more OTT really but what worse hands can call a shove OTR? His line is strange but somehow strong...

I often just check (instead of c-betting) on safe boards w/ TPMK vs nits. Is it a (possible) leak? Should I do this only IP?

BTW OTR I bet not villain.

Another (actually even more ) awful day.

Hand #1:
Against a real aggrodonk w/ very high postflop AFq (80% OTR). I had seen him (bluff) raise/fold OTF before.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($16.51)
BB ($25.12)
UTG ($16)
CO ($15.91)
BTN ($15.44)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, CO calls $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, CO calls $0.64

FLOP ($1.76) 8 2 J

Hero bets $1.26, CO raises to $2.52, Hero calls $1.26

TURN ($6.80) 8 2 J 5

Hero checks, CO bets $2.16, Hero calls $2.16

RIVER ($11.12) 8 2 J 5 T

Hero checks, CO bets $10.43 (AI), Hero calls $10.43

CO shows Q 9
(Pre 16%, Flop 18.7%, Turn 9.1%)

Hero shows A A
(Pre 84%, Flop 81.3%, Turn 90.9%)

CO wins $30.54


Hand #2:
Against a somehow fishy (a bit too loose and postflop passive) player.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($16)
BB ($16.24)
UTG ($16.72)
Hero ($17.07)
CO ($16)
BTN ($17.24)

Dealt to Hero A 4

fold, Hero raises to $0.56, CO calls $0.56, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($1.36) 6 Q 6

Hero bets $0.78, CO calls $0.78

TURN ($2.92) 6 Q 6 4

Hero bets $2.09, CO calls $2.09

RIVER ($7.10) 6 Q 6 4 K

Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows A 4
(Pre 55%, Flop 67.3%, Turn 68.2%)

CO shows 8 9
(Pre 45%, Flop 32.7%, Turn 31.8%)

CO wins $6.78


Hand #3:
Against a tight, reggish, postflop not too aggro player.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($16)
BB ($16)
UTG ($28.14)
UTG+1 ($16.56)
CO ($16.56)
BTN ($14.17)

Dealt to Hero A J

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.48, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold

FLOP ($1.12) J A 5

Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

TURN ($2.72) J A 5 6

Hero checks, CO checks

RIVER ($2.72) J A 5 6 9

Hero checks, CO bets $1.44, Hero folds

CO wins $2.60

Why check?

The thing is that when u check, as when u bet, u need to have a reason.
With tptk when u check it is bc:

Villain never calls with worse and

Villain will call lighter on later streets if u check

Or

Villain's bluffing range is wider than his calling range

Basically u want them to make mistakes of some sort. If they dont, and u have no benefits in checking, then it is better to bet and take down the pot, collect dead money, creating some image,plus improving ur redline...by checking u just let them check back their sdv and play their poor equity perfectly. it is not that we are afraid of being two outered, but if they never put any more money without sucking out, then it is better not to let them suck out.

I check to let the nit bet w/ worse. I think his range is full of small/middle PP's and there's some (we don't know how much) chance he tries to take down the pot by betting. If we bet we may make fold those hands. I would have taken the x/c, x/c, x/f or x/c, x, b(/f) or x, b/f, b/f lines.

Doesn't it make sense against him on this board?

then you are answering to yourself .

looks good, only thing: I wouldn't take a double xc line vs. a nit. they usually stab once, but not twice.
also it is not bad to put yourself in the position of being called lightly by nits here rather then bet into, bc nits tend not to bluff too much. that means cbetting a ton if u think they fold too much, so they are forced to adjust or just let you run over them the times u have air.

AA hand: looks ok vs. this villain. his bet sizing it's a bit suspicious though, looks like rivered 2p a lot

A4 hand: well, here I dont mind xf otf if he is very passive. the thing is that he doesn't call with worse and doesn't bet either. also we only have 1 over an potentially only Qx to barrell again. once u cbet, turn is a bit awkard bc now, why are we betting? it is not value (well maybe he might still call w A high), and a meh bluff. This doubt also make me wonder if that sizing is good. at this point I still bet otr to make him fold any PP lower than Qx.

Ajs: I would raise otf, especially if he is not aggro and chances he double barrells without a hand are slim. if he has a hand he is probably not folding, so flatting doesn't get any more value ott

^^^ Thx again!

A4: I bet turn to make him fold all his PP's and better Ax and anything else .

AJs: Yeah, I also thought I should have raised OTF.

A4: yeah, but depending on how sticky he is and passive when checked to, I think xf otf is fine. simply bc he doesnt fold PPs otf and we have very few cards to barrell ott, and poor equity (basically 3 real outs). plus if he is passive he is not betting without a pair.
in fact think about all the possible turns and your action

AJ: consider donking as well imho, depending on his cbet and wtsd

BE session. Flop c-bet: 26,3%, Flop c-bet success: 20%.

Hand #1:
Against a LAG.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($16)
BB ($16.32)
UTG ($23.12)
CO ($26.80)
BTN ($16.16)

Dealt to Hero A J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.32

FLOP ($0.96) A 8 Q

Hero checks, BB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

TURN ($1.92) A 8 Q 9

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($1.92) A 8 Q 9 K

Hero checks, BB bets $0.96, Hero calls $0.96

Hero shows A J
(Pre 64%, Flop 94.4%, Turn 84.1%)

BB shows 7 T
(Pre 36%, Flop 5.6%, Turn 15.9%)

Hero wins $3.67


Hand #2:
CO is a LAG, BTN is a LAG-fish (postflop passive).

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($6.59)
BB ($16.35)
Hero ($16.24)
UTG+1 ($16)
CO ($17.76)
BTN ($24.47)

UTG+1 posts $0.16

Dealt to Hero Q A

Hero raises to $0.64, fold, CO calls $0.64, BTN calls $0.64, fold, fold

FLOP ($2.32) 4 8 2

Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

TURN ($2.32) 4 8 2 6

Hero checks, CO bets $1.78, BTN folds, Hero folds

CO wins $2.22


Hand #3:
MP was unknown (he's just posted), BTN was a reg and BB was taggish too.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($16.44)
BB ($16)
Hero ($16.59)
UTG+1 ($12.80)
CO ($20.97)
BTN ($16)

UTG+1 posts $0.16

Dealt to Hero T T

Hero raises to $0.64, UTG+1 calls $0.48, fold, BTN calls $0.64, fold, BB calls $0.48

FLOP ($2.64) 8 4 Q

BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.60, BTN folds, BB calls $1.60, Hero folds

TURN ($5.84) 8 4 Q T

BB checks, UTG+1 checks

RIVER ($5.84) 8 4 Q T 6

BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.96, BB calls $0.96

BB shows 5 6
(Pre 42%, Flop 35.6%, Turn 22.7%)

UTG+1 shows A J
(Pre 58%, Flop 64.4%, Turn 77.3%)

BB wins $7.41

Another BE (small loosing) session. My c-bet% is still very low...

Hand #1:
Villain was loose/passive fish pre, postflop more aggro. It's an easy x/f OTF, is it?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($17.53)
BB ($6.24)
UTG ($16)
UTG+1 ($16)
CO ($17.54)
BTN ($3.36)

Dealt to Hero 5 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.32

FLOP ($0.96) K Q 7

Hero checks, BB bets $0.32, Hero folds

BB wins $0.92


Hand #2:
Villain is an unknown but laggy play.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($13.08)
Hero ($16)
UTG ($18.59)
UTG+1 ($17.72)
CO ($16)
BTN ($35.46)

Dealt to Hero K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.44, SB calls $0.96

FLOP ($2.88) J Q 4

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($2.88) J Q 4 4

SB bets $1.37, Hero folds

SB wins $2.75

HH1 I bet flop coz I have a spade, if he is pretty loose, like a loose fish he will fold enough total trash that missed here and we have a spade to back us up for like 30% equity

HH2 I bet flop here too. It does hit their flatting range somewhat but you say he is LAGy so he can probly flat wider than average plus we have a nice amount of equity against a fairly strong range, in the 40% region, so cbetting should be automatically +EV as long as you dont donk off tons on later streets.

as played I might call twice after checking back because even though you rep a piece with that line, I think a LAG will try and take you off that piece by barreling a lot.

stuff like 89s/T9s/AT/KT/K9s etc

Thx!

I just hate betting once and x/f'ing OTT. I now have 15k hands at NL16. I'll post my graph and some of my stats later. They both are pretty ridiculous.

ye it's fine to XF ott, dont worry about it lol. I used to be the exact same

Finally a short but winning session. NL16 graph:



EDIT: I'm also running 5BI under EV...

I did c-bet more with moderate success.


Hand #1:
Against a fish who min opened a lot and had a 0/4 fold to c-bet stat.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($24.23)
Hero ($23.12)
UTG ($8.20)
CO ($37.80)
BTN ($13.07)

Dealt to Hero 7 A

fold, CO raises to $0.32, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.12, CO calls $0.80

FLOP ($2.32) 2 8 7

Hero bets $1.33, CO calls $1.33

TURN ($4.98) 2 8 7 Q

Hero bets $2.85, CO folds

Hero shows 7 A

Hero wins $4.76


Hand #2:
Against an unknown laggy player who had an aggro postflop image too. I first wanted to switch to x/c mode, but finally decided to c-bet...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($25.07)
BB ($22.93)
CO ($16.24)
BTN ($16)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.32

FLOP ($0.96) 2 J 9

Hero bets $0.69, BB raises to $1.68, Hero folds

BB wins $2.23


Hand #3:
Against a nit (SB) and an unknown (but somehow fishy) player.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($20.51)
BB ($12.21)
Hero ($24.27)
UTG+1 ($21.59)
CO ($16)
BTN ($16)

Dealt to Hero T A

Hero raises to $0.56, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.48, BB calls $0.40

FLOP ($1.68) K J 2

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB folds, BB folds

Hero shows T A

Hero wins $1.60

Had some tilting coolers again (consequently running 1,5 BI under EV today). I made still some good calls (call downs) but I should fold more if I get raised, like in hand #1.

Hand #1:
Villain is big, loose/passive fish w/ low flop but high turn and river AFq.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($6.19)
Hero ($16)
CO ($60.41)
BTN ($4.83)

Dealt to Hero J 9

fold, fold, SB calls $0.08, Hero checks

FLOP ($0.32) 7 J 7

SB checks, Hero bets $0.23, SB raises to $0.46, Hero calls $0.23

TURN ($1.24) 7 J 7 5

SB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($1.24) 7 J 7 5 Q

SB bets $0.64, Hero calls $0.64

SB shows 7 A
(Pre 57%, Flop 89.5%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows J 9
(Pre 43%, Flop 10.5%, Turn 4.5%)

SB wins $2.41


Hand #2:
BTN was a (bad) LAG, SB was a (bit passive) reg. I was seriously considering cold 4-betting

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($21.49)
Hero ($17.61)
UTG ($11.55)
CO ($14.29)
BTN ($19.29)

Dealt to Hero 5 8

fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.28, fold, BTN raises to $4, SB raises to $8.64, BTN raises to $19.29 (AI), SB calls $10.65

FLOP ($38.74) 9 4 3

TURN ($38.74) 9 4 3 J

RIVER ($38.74) 9 4 3 J 7

BTN shows K K
(Pre 19%, Flop 12.8%, Turn 4.5%)

SB shows A A
(Pre 81%, Flop 87.2%, Turn 95.5%)

SB wins $37.24

HH 1, raise pre for value.

Guy is limping ATC there probably and J9o plays pretty well IP in SRP vs his range. we can cbet all day and value bet thinly. As played I think I bet/fold turn and check behind river.

Think flop call is ok coz he might just be spazzing but not thrilled since you say he is loose passive.

On turn he can have FD or some GS's that will call to see river but I wouldn't value bet river, even on blanks since it's thin and I wouldn't want to face a XR.

On river, it's an easy fold since the flush gets there and donks do take this line with the absolute nuts pretty often.

HH 2

cold 4betting doesn't look like a good idea to me. The reg is probably aware of the bad LAG and his range is weighted a lot more toward value as opposed to bluffs, so we dont have as much FE there as say a reg 3betting a really wide BTN stealer who didnt call 3bets and we have no blocker value which would help a lot

Thx Prof!

A BE session today although I started running well but had two tilting hands again. What do you think about the following hand? Villain is a good LAG although his not really positionally aware. He is barrel happy.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
Hero ($18.98)
BB ($46.01)
UTG ($15.76)
UTG+1 ($3.83)
CO ($11.85)
BTN ($17.78)

Dealt to Hero T T

UTG raises to $0.48, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.40, fold

FLOP ($1.12) A 7 9

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

TURN ($2.72) A 7 9 8

Hero checks, UTG bets $1.90, Hero raises to $4.80, UTG folds

Hero shows T T

Hero wins $6.23

Against an aggro I think good reg. 60% SB steal, high flop and turn AFq. I had a nitty image (on this table).

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.16(BB) Replayer
SB ($16.36)
Hero ($16)
UTG ($41.22)
UTG+1 ($15.36)
CO ($16.24)
BTN ($9.14)

Dealt to Hero J T

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.48, Hero calls $0.32

FLOP ($0.96) 9 7 9

SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

TURN ($1.96) 9 7 9 6

SB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

RIVER ($4.76) 9 7 9 6 K

SB checks, Hero bets $2.73, SB raises to $8.23, Hero folds

SB wins $9.76

Played the usual monthly live tourney yesterday.

One hand from there: villain was playing like 70/5 but was postflop very aggro. He almost always took a stab if somebody checked. So he limped in and I raised from the SB to 4bb w/ TT. I had around 15bb (he had more). Flop: KQQ. I checked and he bet out half pot. Hero ???

glgl will follow

Thx. Except to follow the most boring thread ever

Jam it pre? So often an over card is going to flip other and you will be in this shotty
Situation . I prefer betting. A tiny amount here
On flop, pretty much everyone is fit
Or
Fold on the flop. As played I probably jam

Thx for commenting! With 15bb I was only a bit under average and I think shoving pre isn't optimal.

I don't see too many reasons to bet but what about calling him down?

Not sure on this one. The more I think about it the more I like it.

This looks totally fine IMO. Ive been trying to do this more and more against players who open the SB far too much and I simply call until they stop betting. Usually they will bet the flop and check/fold the turn or bet the flop and turn and check/fold the river. I really dont look at my cards that much in this spot when someone is opening so wide.