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09-17-2011 , 04:15 PM
Today I ran into the very top of everybody's range...



Being BE over 60k hands (or so) is not really impressive and it doesn't set my mind at rest. I'm also too nitty these days (played 18/15 today).
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09-18-2011 , 03:50 PM
Only a short session today.



This is something I may consider doing more often. Villain was 28/23 over 80 hands, 3bet: 12.9%. I was hesitating between 4bet and call (and fold) preflop but I didn't want to turn my hand into a bluff (by 4bet/folding) so I decided to call. OTF I don't know if my raise is fine. I don't really represent anything (perhaps KK+) but I hoped he thought I had JJ or something.

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    BB: $10 (100 bb)
    MP: $10.37 (103.7 bb)
    Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
    BTN: $27.41 (274.1 bb)
    SB: $31.99 (319.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
    MP folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.90, BB folds, Hero calls $0.60

    Flop: ($1.90) T 6 7 (2 players)
    SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.28, SB folds
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    09-18-2011 , 04:04 PM
    calling IP is superfine and better than 4betting imo if villain uses a polarized range to resteal (and most lags do as a default) u dominate a lot of his junky range, while by turning ur hand into a bluff and 4bet u let villain play perfectly (folding out worse and continuing with better hands).
    plus u are guaranteed to get value for at least one street on A high board.
    flops is good as it hits ur flatting range more than his 3betting range. not a good board to cbet for him unless you give up too often.
    u rep sets and overpairs. that is enough combos to rep effectively and villains continuing only with overpairs and sets which are a super small part of his range in this spot.
    it is range war so wp.

    also equity wise we have two overs, a bdfd and a long shot sd.not all these outs are good but that is enough equity that can back up our bluff if villain flats (and give us the guts to do it). u can shove turn at least on A and hearts
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    09-18-2011 , 04:14 PM
    ^^^this vs. a stadard 10nl lag. vs a good hand reader or at highr stakes i am pretty sure u get shoved on often as he might realize you dont play sets like this and not even overpairs
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    09-18-2011 , 04:19 PM
    Exactly, that's what I wanted to say but you were quicker. I could only have TT for a set (and I flat with it OTF) and I never raise here with JJ-QQ.

    Thx!
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    09-18-2011 , 04:26 PM
    yeah but we can exploit bad hand readers by doing stuff we wouldnt do for value.
    lots of things that work vs. average players are actually bad vs. really good players
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    09-18-2011 , 04:30 PM
    Yep and I seem to overthinking situations and to give them too much credit.
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    09-19-2011 , 04:11 PM
    Some more days like this and I'll be fine again.



    Villain in the first hand was a LAG (26/22, 11.6% 3bet over 179 hands), 55% and 40% flop and turn AFq respectively, fold to c-bet: 1/4, bet OTT vs missed c-bet OOP: 4/8. What do you think about my turn raise? I didn't rep too much (if any) but I thought he could have folded most of his range and if not I could have shoved on almost any river. Spew?

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      CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
      BTN: $10 (100 bb)
      SB: $10 (100 bb)
      BB: $14.92 (149.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 2 A
      Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.85) K 9 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($0.85) 6 (2 players)
      BB bets $0.60, Hero raises to $2.10


      In the second hand villain was more or less unknown but he didn't seem too fishy. OTF I called as his raise was quite big and I hoped he had a smaller (than mine) PP or an Ax type hand and I was intended to x/shove on most turns. But what about this turn?

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        Hero (CO): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
        BTN: $10 (100 bb)
        SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
        BB: $10 (100 bb)
        MP: $10 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
        MP folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

        Flop: ($0.95) 4 3 5 (3 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $0.68, BTN raises to $2.40, BB folds, Hero calls $1.72

        Turn: ($5.75) 6 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $5.47, Hero ???
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        09-20-2011 , 01:23 PM
        hand1 just cbet imo, and cbet any diamond or A ott and maybe even any blank (cards that dont complete draws) or just check and give up. overall it is not a bad spot to 3barrell imo if villain keeps on just flatting. he doesnt have many K in his range here imo but many draws he could follow with. on this board we dont rep much by xhecking otf , you wouldnt check any value hand or good draw on this flop.
        might work, but not a +EV play imo.


        KK hand i would fold flop with no reads and oop. villain xraises in a 3 way pot...we could be ahead ofc but not a great spot to call and guess. so fold or shove imo.
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        09-20-2011 , 04:09 PM
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        Originally Posted by baohoa
        hand1 just cbet imo, and cbet any diamond or A ott and maybe even any blank (cards that dont complete draws) or just check and give up. overall it is not a bad spot to 3barrell imo if villain keeps on just flatting. he doesnt have many K in his range here imo but many draws he could follow with. on this board we dont rep much by xhecking otf , you wouldnt check any value hand or good draw on this flop.
        might work, but not a +EV play imo.
        Yeah, this board seemed good to c-bet on but I had no equity at all. I knew I didn't rep anything... Seems to be a bad bluff.

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        Originally Posted by baohoa
        KK hand i would fold flop with no reads and oop. villain xraises in a 3 way pot...we could be ahead ofc but not a great spot to call and guess. so fold or shove imo.
        I didn't even realize it was a multiway flop so folding can't be that bad. But why would you shove instead of calling OTF?

        A miserable day.



        Let's complain a bit ... In the first hand villain was unknown. I think I could have just folded preflop but I couldn't. I don't know why did I bet OTR when I didn't beat anything...

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          SB: $10 (100 bb)
          Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
          MP: $10.89 (108.9 bb)
          CO: $9.79 (97.9 bb)
          BTN: $10 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
          MP folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $0.80, SB folds, Hero calls $0.70, CO folds

          Flop: ($1.95) 9 J A (2 players)
          Hero checks, BTN checks

          Turn: ($1.95) Q (2 players)
          Hero bets $1.39, BTN calls $1.39

          River: ($4.73) 8 (2 players)
          Hero bets $2.70, BTN raises to $7.81 and is all-in, Hero folds

          Results: $10.13 pot ($0.49 rake)
          Final Board: 9 J A Q 8
          Hero mucked A K and lost (-$4.89 net)
          BTN mucked and won $9.64 ($4.75 net)


          In the second hand villain was a laggy aggro player (29/27 over 54 hands, 3/4 steal from the BTN, 50% postflop AFq). Seems standard but...

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            Hero (BB): $12.25 (122.5 bb)
            UTG: $10.70 (107 bb)
            MP: $3.03 (30.3 bb)
            CO: $15.06 (150.6 bb)
            BTN: $10 (100 bb)
            SB: $9.98 (99.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with T K
            3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $0.80

            Flop: ($2.25) T A K (2 players)
            Hero bets $1.28, BTN calls $1.28

            Turn: ($4.81) Q (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN checks

            River: ($4.81) Q (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero folds
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            09-20-2011 , 04:30 PM
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            Originally Posted by furkae
            Yeah, this board seemed good to c-bet on but I had no equity at all. I knew I didn't rep anything... Seems to be a bad bluff.



            I didn't even realize it was a multiway flop so folding can't be that bad. But why would you shove instead of calling OTF?
            you have poor equity but good FE on K high board. you can cbet/fold easily.
            plus if he flats, assuming he has no strong K in his flatting range, you can barrell him off on blank cards if you think he calls with weak pairs and draws.
            having the bdnfd also is nice as it allows us to keep pressure more often ott and reduces the chance he has a strong draw as well.


            KK hand being oop i feel like you have to decide otf what to do. calling and revaluate oop is often bad. our hand wont improve ott. if you think there is a good chance he can do this as a bluff and/or with overpairs i would pretty happy to get it in. when he folds we actually got 2 streets of value (his raise) from who knows what...
            when he call he can have sets or 2 pair, but also oesd and small overpairs up to JJ and we do well vs. a range like this. also villain might get scared ott and we lose the chance to stack him off when he has an overpair.
            in this hand i tend to give villain credit bc he planned a xraise mw, so readless i tend to fold. but HU or vs. bad players this is a clear shove imo, unless villain is a nit or a passive guy.
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            09-20-2011 , 04:40 PM
            AK hand not folding pre here imo. i prefer cold 4betting tbh. it looks very strong, OR and BTN have prolly wide ranges in this spot and we have blocking value. as played ott i dont know if i like leading. i prefer cc here. villain is prolly not calling with worse but KQ maybe...river cf. i dont think villain calls with worse given pf action (we flatted a 3bet which is strong perceived). and he is going to check it back with hands we beat.


            KT hand are we 3betting as a bluff or for value? with no reads on his foldv3bet i kinda prefer folding here. we might be ahead of his range but oop with this hand we are going to have troubles postflop i feel.
            postflop looks ok, maybe larger otf.
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            09-20-2011 , 05:11 PM
            Thx baohoa for this detailed analysis!

            In the AK hand I thought I got a good price to call. I didn't want to 4bet/call or 4bet/fold.

            In the KT hand I was bluffing.
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            09-21-2011 , 03:47 PM
            I lost my concentration at the very and of my last session today. It cost a lot.

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            09-21-2011 , 03:49 PM
            ^ blah, you had a good redline too. It happens.
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            09-21-2011 , 03:52 PM
            Yeah, but I was quite tired but thought: one more orbit, one more orbit, ... I should have sat out right in time. Even if the tables were good.
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            09-24-2011 , 03:46 PM
            I was on a workshop in the last few days and couldn't play a hand (online). My comeback tonight wasn't really successful.



            Villain in this hand was a reg: 23/17 over 77 hands, 9.4% 3bet (3/22 from the blinds). Stack off preflop? As played: b/c OTF?

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              SB: $11 (110 bb)
              BB: $7.13 (71.3 bb)
              UTG: $7.55 (75.5 bb)
              MP: $10.61 (106.1 bb)
              CO: $10.35 (103.5 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $10.17 (101.7 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
              UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.90

              Flop: ($2.80) 3 6 T (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero ???
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              09-24-2011 , 04:04 PM
              A K
              I would b/f because generally on a mono board ppl play really straight forward in my experience. If villain is looking to get it in he can easily have 33/66 here or some low suited connectors made flushes but I tend to think we would take it down w/ a cbet quite often.
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              09-24-2011 , 04:44 PM
              I think he c-bets on this flop w/ all his value hands and good draws (except perhaps the nut flush). So yeah, b/f'ing seems a good line.
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              09-24-2011 , 08:01 PM
              ^ Oops totally misread the HH, thought villain limpedcalled but I still would b/f and 33/66 arent in his range.
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              09-25-2011 , 03:09 PM
              A short but at least successful session from tonight.



              In the next hand SB was a huge fish (52/16, 34% AFq, 3/9 donk OTF) and BB was an (unknown) nit. How do we play OTF?

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                Hero (MP): $10 (100 bb)
                CO: $5.93 (59.3 bb)
                BTN: $10 (100 bb)
                SB: $4.51 (45.1 bb)
                BB: $10.04 (100.4 bb)
                UTG: $13.52 (135.2 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
                UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

                Flop: ($1.20) 5 6 2 (3 players)
                SB bets $0.10, BB raises to $0.50, Hero ???
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                09-25-2011 , 04:28 PM
                raise for value. both sizings are pretty ******ed imo. they either have a draw or a small overpair most of the times.
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                09-25-2011 , 04:44 PM
                Def gotta raise
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                09-26-2011 , 01:08 AM
                Yep, I should have realized BB (the nit) must have raised bigger with a set.
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                09-26-2011 , 03:31 PM
                A "could have been better" day.



                What is the best play against a LAG? Villain was 35/28 over 42 hands, 3bet: 2/11 from the blinds.

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                  SB: $8.51 (85.1 bb)
                  BB: $17.30 (173 bb)
                  Hero (CO): $18.05 (180.5 bb)
                  BTN: $9.85 (98.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 4
                  Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.80, BB folds, Hero ???
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