A couple points RE this:

- 1/2 is my standard in every cbet
- You don't really need to worry about being exploited at 10nl
- Adjust your sizing based on board textures rather than hand strength

Really just think "what am I trying to achieve by c-betting and then size it accordingly. Your AQs hand for example you want folds but really only the air portion of their ranges are going to fold so how big do you need to make it to fold out air? Another example could be you hold a value hand against a fish and expect a lot of calls - how big do you make it then? Be flexible

Thx! In this hand I thought I could make them fold some medium PP (99/TT) besides Ax. My standard sizing is 60% of the pot size. Vs fish w/ value hand I have a "bet 90% of the pot" button.

Looking back betting (a bit more than) 50% would have been fine w/ QQ+ too. Thx again!

it is pretty rare to find someone who exploit it at this limit. players are often fit or fold and they're pretty inelastic. reason why we can bet big for value and they call with second pair or bet small as a bluff and get folds from A highs.
also vs. regs you should adjust your sizes/frequencies more on the flop texture (dry = less, wet = more) than on your hand strength. we are not going to play many big pots vs. them anyway. vs. fishes you can do whatever they will never exploit it.
expecially on dry boards you don't need to make it big, you want folds from the weak part of villain's range that has equity or is ahead (i.e. we have 56s on an Axx board and villain has KJ) and pick up dead money. and they usually they fold regardless of the size.

huh, expecially in 3bet pots, where stacks are going in easily regardless of your cbet size bc of SPR, and where your perceveid range is strong already, there's non need to make it big either for value and as a bluff. this can be bad for your redline

Thx baohoa (and Choice), your reasoning seems reasonable and I'm convinced.

One more question though: in the AQs hand does it matter that we are 3-way OTF? I mean if we have decided to bet (as a bluff) should we bet more just b/c we aren't HU?

3 handed and mw in general u should play more straightforwardly simply bc it is more probable someone hits the board. in this particular hand this flop is good to cbet though and it is a good spot to pick up dead money. on the other side people wont fold better hands that often on this board and we are likely to have the best one anyway so checking would not be that bad, we might get to SD if they are really passive. if we had like 87o cbet is better in terms of EV they might fold.

If anything you can bet smaller as a bluff in a 3 way pot. As baohoa said people tend to play quite honestly in multiway pots so no need to make it too big.

I see, thx guys! It was a really good discussion and I appreciate your help very much!

yep also in mw pot u can bluff profitably bc they tend to play honestly, especially vs. in mw pot on really dry boards (i.e. when we are on BB in limped pot we can lead as a bluff profitably sometimes)

Furk, how many tables u playing btw? from ur graphs it seems only like 2-4.

Hey, call me Elemér, this is my first name! You're right, I'm playing 4 tables. This month I'll try to play as many hands as possible (the goal is 20k lol).

Today was better (w/o any interesting hand).

Today I got outdrawn a lot...



In the first hand MP was completely unkonwn and BTN was a bit spewy reg. What is our play OTT?



In the second hand villain was unknown.



In the last hand villain was a LAG (30/25 over 89 hands, steal from the CO: 36%, fold to 3bet: 0/2, fold to c-bet in 3bet pot: 0/2, x/r postflop: 31%). Is this a good flop to c-bet on against him?

TT hand i was going to say bet/fold turn and then check/fold river if it gets that far. I cant see that you arnt ahead of these two players ranges on the turn. MP has 2 random cards and the BTN is probably incapable of folding an oerpair that we beat here but probably checks behind a lot of rivers.

AJ hand i would check the turn. A lot of people have habits of calling Ace high flops in these situations and the turn is really a blank and i think its hard to get three streets of value here so my plan would be to check/call the turn and then maybe think about firing small on the river which just looks plain wierd to the villain and may get us looked up lighter.

AQ hand is a small sample and although its close to been a 3bet for value its not like we have a ton of reads on him and its also not like he is getting too out of lin which would lead me to flatting here quite often. Honestly i would think about checking behind this flop and hoping to catch something on the turn.

TT bf half pot imo. for value vs. PPs and to collect dead money.
AJ hand: looks ok imo, river bet is kinda small but BvB i would go for 3 streets here. we still get calls from Ax, Kx
AQ hand given your reads i would check back, this is the type of board where u get villain continuing very often (he folded twice pre and know calls) and good board to bluff raise especially in LP dynamics imho. also we have some SDV.
preflop agree with mart that flatting is an option, villain tends to fold to 3bet so we should prolly polarize our range and AQ is kinda borderline and could well fit in the top of our flatting range too. either way is fine though imho.

Thx guys!

TT: I thought the same: I bet turn and MP called w/ his turned trips. River went check/check as a third heart card came to the board.

AQ: Why isn't it an easy value 3bet against him? He seemed to be unable to fold to 3bets and he was loose and I also had position... On the other hand I agree with checking back OTF.

standard 3bet most of the times vs. this guy. anyway given that we dont have many info on him, especially on how he plays in 3bet pots flatting IP is an option.
tbh i actually did understand that he folded 2/2 to 3bets...

I think I have still some minor problems with my red line



Villain in the first hand was a 69/13 fish (over 46 hands) who was very aggro postflop (49% AFq and 4/8 fold to c-bet). Do we double barrel OTT?



In the second hand villain was a 45/25 (over 52 hands), fold to c-bet: 2/5. Do we c-bet OTF? He was rather aggro OTT/OTR.

99 hand i would check and revaluate otr. we dont get calls from worse but some sd and we have blockers for those combos and nothing better folds, plus we have some sdv. river is going to be a spot where u have to 'feel' if he leads.

AK hand: meh i wouldnt cbet a board like this, i expect him to hit this flop pretty often once he flats pre. we dont care if we give a free card here. if we bet he is going to fold all the air we dominate and maybe some medium PPs but that's all. if we get called we are often behind with poor equity (our overs might not be good as could pair his kicker or give him a straight).
UTG stats? we could flat AK here some of the times, though it is a standard 3bet. with AKs if UTG is likely to come along i would like a flat IP.

99: pre if make it way bigger, like.60, but yes, I'd fire again, these flops get peeled by heaps worse, esp because your cbet is a bit small. 6x, 7x, hands like j10, a10, 88, a fish would call with a heap. fire turn, give up on river.

ak. check it back, give up if not improved.

ps. what's your cbet frequency?

Thx guys!

In the 99 hand I finally checked back and called a smaller bet OTR. And yeah, I might have bet more preflop.

In the AK hand I checked back and folded to a river bet.

My c-bet frequency is quite low ATM (somewhere between 50% and 60%).

fwiw mine is around 65%, with my turn bet around 55%, it boosts your redline dramatically if you make a plan for your hand otf, tell your self I'm going to cbet tis flop, and any xy or z turn, because villains flop range can be... cbetting is quality not quantity, you can have a flat redline with a 55% cbet, as long as you compensate with turn aggression... what's your 3 bet% and your att to steal %? you seem to be amazing with theory, I'm kind of surprised you haven't crushed your redline goal

Unfortunately I haven't restored my old HEM database yet so I only have a few hands now. My 3bet% is around 4-5% and the steal% must be near 40%. My turn c-bet% was very high but it must be still around 50-60%.

But you can be right in saying I may chose the wrong flops to c-bet (or not to c-bet) on and the wrong turns to barrel (or not to barrel) on.

Anyway, thx for your kind words!

It could have been a better day if I had folded TP against a huge fish... But I couldn't...



Tomorrow I'm going to have another medical examination. It is said to be quite unpleasant but I'm rather afraid of the possible results... Well, we'll see. Anyway if I can give you some advice guys: don't get old...

gl furkae

Thx baohoa!

I survived the examination and they didn't find anything serious but I have to wait quite a long time (more than 3 weeks) for all the results...

So back to poker! I managed to play a shorter session. Will post graph and HH's later.