Wondering if staking would alleviate some stress associated with the BR. (why am i so greedy for higher WR?) (and higher stakes)
If anything, it will add more stress. Most staking arrangements are 50/50, so you would need to at least double your stakes to make the same amount of money. So now, you will owe someone money when you have a downswing, and once you are deep in makeup, it becomes a downward spiral, because you will most likely have to move down, which makes getting out of makeup even more difficult.
You are crushing the games and are just being impatient. Stick to your process, quit crying about coolers, and just keep playing your A game.
If anything, it will add more stress. Most staking arrangements are 50/50, so you would need to at least double your stakes to make the same amount of money. So now, you will owe someone money when you have a downswing, and once you are deep in makeup, it becomes a downward spiral, because you will most likely have to move down, which makes getting out of makeup even more difficult.
You are crushing the games and are just being impatient. Stick to your process, quit crying about coolers, and just keep playing your A game.
I mean lets be honest, I'm not making any money in poker (it's all in BR or tools/subs/material acquired) and not interested in earning @uNL. I aim to be able to leave my Job so I need to actually bring home a profit worth bringing home, the good news is I don't need to beat much. When i mention CFP or staking or mentor, it's to fast track some things that maybe I'm spending too much time on because have to figure out on my own. It's funny because my first thought of this idea is to play on someone else's roll until basically 100nl-200nl, not the other way around where I would be splitting profits at uNL hoping to get out one day.
Thanks for clearing this up right away and offering some clear and obvious cons to staking (would be bad idea for me, I agree). I could see merit to some forms of it however. But getting agreement to some terms probably doesn't come easily. I am impatient, I need to get into the gym again and doing yoga/meditation or something. I'm turning into a potato and I use to be in good shape. That could be affecting my confidence and self trust also. Man, it feels like there are not enough hours in a day but this is almost 100% product of poor self management, efficiency, organization. I need to improve life skills. Need to improve everything ig.
Going to keep crying about coolers, but I could move those to BBV. But it's weird, I for sure have this revenge tilt at my core as if every lost hand the villain is in my head and had planned for the event and executed perfectly. 3 read throughs of TMGoP and you would think i'd be a little better at managing.
Thanks for clearing this up right away and offering some clear and obvious cons to staking (would be bad idea for me, I agree). I could see merit to some forms of it however. But getting agreement to some terms probably doesn't come easily. I am impatient, I need to get into the gym again and doing yoga/meditation or something. I'm turning into a potato and I use to be in good shape. That could be affecting my confidence and self trust also. Man, it feels like there are not enough hours in a day but this is almost 100% product of poor self management, efficiency, organization. I need to improve life skills. Need to improve everything ig.
Cash game staking is one of those arrangements where the stars have to align for everyone to succeed. If you are good at poker, you shouldn't need a stake. The people seeking a stake are either bad at poker, bad at risk management, or bad with personal finance. It's almost predatory as far as the staker goes, because if the stakee is trustworthy, the staker assumes very little risk, because once you are in makeup, you make no money until he is paid back in full.
If you have a job, just put some extra money towards your poker bankroll and take aggressive shots. Bet on yourself.
Main takeaway for this month is have confidence in my approach. I'm doing okay. I have a prop bet with my study group that I can no longer be negative or have self deprecating talk or I forfeit a buy in to whoever calls me out on it.
Still getting some 10hour sessions in combined through out the day and feeling good about it. I hope I can keep up this volume but it really cuts into my study time. Also dropped 6 tables altogether and 4 is max, but I'm honestly playing the best at 3 rn being able to focus on a lot more things that I want to consider.
Hopeful that FEB is going to go OK. Just watching my EV go up in every spot that I study is making me insatiable. How do I stop time?
Btw. In dangerously close territory to shotting 50nl(yes im already doing it when tables are good) and it could be a very real possibility to be splitting stakes 25-50nl very soon. Still a little money scared but I can't be that way forever. I thnk of Nick Schulman when in a Joey pod "oh you think this you have an easy decision, OK IM ALL IN!" (guess you had to be there kinda thing)
To 50nl and beyond. I'm loading up 25nl tables and only filling with 10nl with no 25nl tables are active. I think I'm close to being established. Maybe waiting for 50k hands.
Unfortunately if you're 30bi under ev or whatever, then the expectation is to stay 30bi under ev for whatever stretch of hands you end up playing after the fact.
I'm well over 100bi under ev lifetime and >$25k, and many people are way way worse. Just focus on good game play and decision making.
At 50k when I ran pretty bad it managed to work it's way back into my stack. SO THERE IS HOPE!
I saw that you're considering playing for a stake/CFP group and I'd like to give you my 2 cents about it.
The upside of that IMO is that you have access to resources that will help you beat micro and low stakes significantly faster.
For example, in the current team that I am now I have access to the elite version of gtowizard that costs $149 per month, something that I would never have access if I had to pay it from my own pocket (not even the standard version to be honest).
You also have access to 1 coaching session per week and you can post hands everyday on the discord server at any time and always have some feedback. If I had to pay coach sessions per hour individually I would certainly have to spend a huge part of my bankroll doing that.
Another positive point is that when you move up to NL50 or NL100 the team gives you access to the MDA study that was developed for that player pool that you are playing, that means that you no longer need to blindly follow the simplified strategy that they give you, you can start making your own adjustments based on the info that you have access about the player profiles from that pool. That way you can exploit the population a lot more than you would if you didn't had access to that and therefore have a far greater WR.
I saw that you're considering playing for a stake/CFP group and I'd like to give you my 2 cents about it.
The upside of that IMO is that you have access to resources that will help you beat micro and low stakes significantly faster.
For example, in the current team that I am now I have access to the elite version of gtowizard that costs $149 per month, something that I would never have access if I had to pay it from my own pocket (not even the standard version to be honest).
You also have access to 1 coaching session per week and you can post hands everyday on the discord server at any time and always have some feedback. If I had to pay coach sessions per hour individually I would certainly have to spend a huge part of my bankroll doing that.
Another positive point is that when you move up to NL50 or NL100 the team gives you access to the MDA study that was developed for that player pool that you are playing, that means that you no longer need to blindly follow the simplified strategy that they give you, you can start making your own adjustments based on the info that you have access about the player profiles from that pool. That way you can exploit the population a lot more than you would if you didn't had access to that and therefore have a far greater WR.
Hey thanks for the response and insight to your experiences, Slim. Yeah it's something I still consider because I don't withdraw really from my roll so I wouldn't be too concerned with dropping a few 100k hands or a year or so on a "mission" with a cfp. Mostly to augment my learning process with tools/info that I shouldn't need to spend too much time on discovering myself (discovery is only the first step lol still have lots of processing)
The pros are there, the cons are there. I'm not convinced one way or the other. I personally haven't heard any GREAT stories about cfps, and more horror stories I have seen than Cinderella stories. Still something to consider still I guess.
Weekend results. Feel like I'm probably punting when I get really tired but still want to log in the hours on the tables. I haven't tried to slow down volume because I'm still winning at a nice clip. Doubled down on study, doubled down on table time and the bankroll is swelling nicely.
I decided to put a halt on the 50nl tables and be more strict about sitting those tables. I think I'm beating the players there probably but I get $ scared there and also running a little under EV. Just sucks to lose a big pot there. My of my recent BR growth has been stunted because of 50nl losses. Only takes one or 2 bigger pots lost to have a little hill to climb back up. Not too worried about it because 25nl isn't as big of a jump as it was going from 10nl up. I'm keeping more confidence and getting better in general from playing 25nl so that's where i think i need to be for awhile more at least.
25nl results so far (about 2 weeks of shotting it here and it's going well)
Loving my SB results for the last few weeks.
BR hit about $1600 this weekend. Going for $2k asap and at that point I will be making moves to establish at 50nl.
Still feel like I need a personal coach for full speed development. Still looking for the right dynamic to make this happen.
It looks like you are way over folding the river. Filter for your river folds and look through your hands to see where you are missing clear calls. Fish are overbluffing like crazy, so you really need to make some loose calls vs them. This is a small sample size, though.
It looks like you are way over folding the river. Filter for your river folds and look through your hands to see where you are missing clear calls. Fish are overbluffing like crazy, so you really need to make some loose calls vs them. This is a small sample size, though.
Yeah good start. Thanks.
I see quite a bit of MW pots as well but I'm already finding a few spots like you said, clear calls.
River seems to be something I should be for sure looking into. My river cbet % is pretty high too (about 60% or higher avg), at least i think this is high (if river cbet counts this-- delay cbet into followup is still river cbet? Doesn't have to be B-B-B to be river cbet, right?). But i do end up in a lot of delayed cbet lines so I figured this is driving most of it.
It looks like you are way over folding the river. Filter for your river folds and look through your hands to see where you are missing clear calls. Fish are overbluffing like crazy, so you really need to make some loose calls vs them. This is a small sample size, though.
I'm assuming you're looking at his river call efficiency for this statement? 1.6 is certainly high, but within the realm of variance for 15k hands. Still, the suggestion to look at folding frequencies remains valid.
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Yeah good start. Thanks.
I see quite a bit of MW pots as well but I'm already finding a few spots like you said, clear calls.
River seems to be something I should be for sure looking into. My river cbet % is pretty high too (about 60% or higher avg), at least i think this is high (if river cbet counts this-- delay cbet into followup is still river cbet? Doesn't have to be B-B-B to be river cbet, right?). But i do end up in a lot of delayed cbet lines so I figured this is driving most of it.
I believe c-bet stats do mean you bet all previous streets... so river c-bet is indeed b-b-b. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm assuming you're looking at his river call efficiency for this statement? 1.6 is certainly high, but within the realm of variance for 15k hands. Still, the suggestion to look at folding frequencies remains valid.
I believe c-bet stats do mean you bet all previous streets... so river c-bet is indeed b-b-b. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Then I will compare cbet river from pt4 with my H2N filters for delayed cbet lines. I don’t typically use pt for reading stats because on H2N I can see exactly the line
Noticed that I hit 200k mark for tracked hands not including ACR shenanigans 100k breakeven blitz.
I feel decent about that kind of volume and there's also like 100k untracked hands between Global and WSOP which totals almost 400k over 1.5 year if we start when my Upswing sub started.
Here's my month update
Was doing pretty well and you can't see because of the BB view but I went to shoot 50nl and ended up losing a few bi also coupled with a mini downswing @25nl let me drop about $200 in a session. Was kind of bummed about it but it really fired me up to study harder. Ended up bouncing back after a small hiatus
Was a good last few weeks tbh, this month is going to be a very memorable one. I went on vacation last week (pretty proud I did only maybe 3 hours of poker stuff over the entire time) so had such a nice reset from everything and I feel like so much baggage has been able to breathe. I went on a kayaking thing. Ended up seeing a bunch of manatees and some other wildlife so it was pretty cool. Looks like Feb (which is usually my most dreadful month) is turning out to be alright this time, full of renewal. Let's hope that the world doesn't fall apart.
Also trying to not play any 10nl anymore unless I'm feeling like absolute garbo. I would rather investigate and probe around in my C game at a higher stake than I would play at 10nl anymore. 25nl is my main stake right now for sure and 50nl is not far away from being next. Roll is healthy enough to be taking very aggro shots at 50nl. Like someone told me before, I just need one shot to stick.