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08-24-2010 , 01:47 PM
what did you fold on K45Kx board in 3 bet pot where you c/f river. felt like you cant really call with much. you folded as big as QQ? which would be equal to AA :-O. or you just had air i guess.
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08-24-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackDespair
what did you fold on K45Kx board in 3 bet pot where you c/f river. felt like you cant really call with much. you folded as big as QQ? which would be equal to AA :-O. or you just had air i guess.
Nah I actually had AA. Wanted to call so badly, but I mean, he can have lots of kings, boats and straights. It would be so spewy to call with AA there I think.

He got what he deserved though
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08-24-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Nah I actually had AA. Wanted to call so badly, but I mean, he can have lots of kings, boats and straights.
yeah i thought so too, mainly Ks and boats, so i was actually right. too bad he showed the bluff.
you got revange tho.
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08-24-2010 , 02:11 PM
yeah

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Originally Posted by BlackDespair
oh i am railing you now pretty much the first time i ever rail midstakes.
6max is kinda boring to rail though. When I start playing a lot more HU I'd imagine it will be a lot more interesting hopefully
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08-24-2010 , 02:15 PM
Ok, gonna end session now. Played 400 hands and ended up +1000$. Played pretty meh, but picked up a lot of hands.


Biggest winning hand:


Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CrazyTBird (SB): $387.10
wlee1231 (BB): $441.50
edgess (UTG): $462.60
nattamon (MP): $266.70
bloozy (CO): $449.50
Pokermoney07 (BTN): $516.50

CrazyTBird posts SB $2.00, wlee1231 posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Pokermoney07 has K K

fold, fold, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $12.00, fold, wlee1231 raises to $42.00, Pokermoney07 raises to $104.00, wlee1231 raises to $441.50 and is all-in, Pokermoney07 calls $337.50

Flop: ($885.00, 2 players) J 2 K

Turn: ($885.00, 2 players) 9

River: ($885.00, 2 players) T

wlee1231 shows 4 4 (One Pair, Fours)
Pokermoney07 shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
Pokermoney07 wins $882.00






Full Tilt - $4 Ante $0.75 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Pokermoney07 (INVALID POS): $415.00
Joeyhansen (SB): $405.80
Tonding (UTG): $420.50
Corso8488 (CO): $686.45
CrazyTBird (BTN): $807.05

CrazyTBird posts ante $0.75, Tonding posts ante $0.75, Joeyhansen posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts ante $0.75, Corso8488 posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts SB $2.00, Joeyhansen posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.75) Pokermoney07 has T Q

fold, Corso8488 raises to $12.00, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $40.00, fold, Corso8488 calls $28.00

Flop: ($87.75, 2 players) T 7 4
Pokermoney07 checks, Corso8488 checks

Turn: ($87.75, 2 players) 8
Pokermoney07 checks, Corso8488 bets $56.00, Pokermoney07 raises to $374.25 and is all-in, Corso8488 calls $318.25

River: ($836.25, 2 players) 6

Pokermoney07 shows T Q (Flush, Queen High)
Corso8488 shows 7 8 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
Pokermoney07 wins $833.25






Biggest losing hand:




Full Tilt - $4 Ante $0.75 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Pokermoney07 (SB): $434.75
Joeyhansen (BB): $415.55
Tonding (UTG): $430.25
Corso8488 (CO): $501.70
CrazyTBird (BTN): $749.25

Tonding posts ante $0.75, CrazyTBird posts ante $0.75, Joeyhansen posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts ante $0.75, Corso8488 posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts SB $2.00, Joeyhansen posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.75) Pokermoney07 has A A

fold, Corso8488 raises to $12.00, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $40.00, fold, Corso8488 calls $28.00

Flop: ($87.75, 2 players) 5 K 4
Pokermoney07 bets $56.00, Corso8488 calls $56.00

Turn: ($199.75, 2 players) K
Pokermoney07 bets $92.00, Corso8488 calls $92.00

River: ($383.75, 2 players) 8
Pokermoney07 checks, Corso8488 bets $312.95 and is all-in, fold

Corso8488 shows Q 7 (One Pair, Kings)
Corso8488 wins $380.75






Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

borntarun (SB): $400.00
onegrom (BB): $262.90
ALFeRICH (UTG): $414.00
Wulf1969 (MP): $628.60
alek1035 (CO): $129.00
Pokermoney07 (BTN): $412.40

borntarun posts SB $2.00, onegrom posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Pokermoney07 has 7 A

fold, fold, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $12.00, fold, onegrom calls $8.00

Flop: ($26.00, 2 players) A 6 J
onegrom checks, Pokermoney07 checks

Turn: ($26.00, 2 players) 7
onegrom checks, Pokermoney07 bets $20.00, onegrom raises to $40.00, Pokermoney07 calls $20.00

River: ($106.00, 2 players) 4
onegrom bets $106.00, Pokermoney07 calls $106.00

onegrom shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
Pokermoney07 mucks 7 A (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)
onegrom wins $315.00
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08-24-2010 , 04:37 PM
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CrazyTBird (SB): $387.10
wlee1231 (BB): $441.50
edgess (UTG): $462.60
nattamon (MP): $266.70
bloozy (CO): $449.50
Pokermoney07 (BTN): $516.50

CrazyTBird posts SB $2.00, wlee1231 posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Pokermoney07 has K K

fold, fold, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $12.00, fold, wlee1231 raises to $42.00, Pokermoney07 raises to $104.00, wlee1231 raises to $441.50 and is all-in, Pokermoney07 calls $337.50

Flop: ($885.00, 2 players) J 2 K

Turn: ($885.00, 2 players) 9

River: ($885.00, 2 players) T

wlee1231 shows 4 4 (One Pair, Fours)
Pokermoney07 shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
Pokermoney07 wins $882.00
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WTF??? Whats wrong with him, I don't understand the reraise shove here!!! Someone has gotta tell me his way of playing!
Pokermoney07 (SB): $434.75
Joeyhansen (BB): $415.55
Tonding (UTG): $430.25
Corso8488 (CO): $501.70
CrazyTBird (BTN): $749.25

Tonding posts ante $0.75, CrazyTBird posts ante $0.75, Joeyhansen posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts ante $0.75, Corso8488 posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts SB $2.00, Joeyhansen posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.75) Pokermoney07 has A A

fold, Corso8488 raises to $12.00, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $40.00, fold, Corso8488 calls $28.00

Flop: ($87.75, 2 players) 5 K 4
Pokermoney07 bets $56.00, Corso8488 calls $56.00

Turn: ($199.75, 2 players) K
Pokermoney07 bets $92.00, Corso8488 calls $92.00

River: ($383.75, 2 players) 8
Pokermoney07 checks, Corso8488 bets $312.95 and is all-in, fold

Corso8488 shows Q 7 (One Pair, Kings)
Corso8488 wins $380.75
So thats the one he was talking about with the Ks. Well thats a nice bluff and he was nice enough to show it. I think its a fold too!
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08-24-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden

Full Tilt - $4 Ante $0.75 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Pokermoney07 (SB): $434.75
Joeyhansen (BB): $415.55
Tonding (UTG): $430.25
Corso8488 (CO): $501.70
CrazyTBird (BTN): $749.25

Tonding posts ante $0.75, CrazyTBird posts ante $0.75, Joeyhansen posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts ante $0.75, Corso8488 posts ante $0.75, Pokermoney07 posts SB $2.00, Joeyhansen posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $9.75) Pokermoney07 has A A

fold, Corso8488 raises to $12.00, fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $40.00, fold, Corso8488 calls $28.00

Flop: ($87.75, 2 players) 5 K 4
Pokermoney07 bets $56.00, Corso8488 calls $56.00

Turn: ($199.75, 2 players) K
Pokermoney07 bets $92.00, Corso8488 calls $92.00

River: ($383.75, 2 players) 8
Pokermoney07 checks, Corso8488 bets $312.95 and is all-in, fold

Corso8488 shows Q 7 (One Pair, Kings)
Corso8488 wins $380.75
i don't get it.. ca he really rep a K here that often without raising that drawy flop ? or at least the turn ?

his line looks more of what u have, a bluffcatcher (pp 66-QQ) which wouldn't make any sense of shoving the river ... so mostly he represents air here or 88.

but meh ... i don't play midstakes ...
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08-24-2010 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alienatu
i don't get it.. ca he really rep a K here that often without raising that drawy flop ? or at least the turn ?

his line looks more of what u have, a bluffcatcher (pp 66-QQ) which wouldn't make any sense of shoving the river ... so mostly he represents air here or 88.

but meh ... i don't play midstakes ...
I agree. I would think he 4 bets AK here a lot of the time and the only other K's he has are KQ/KJ which I think raise the turn a lot (might polarize to much tho i guess). 44/55 raises the flop a lot of the time or at least the turn. I think your check on the river was great as a bluffcatch, but you didn't pull the trigger. Had you been playing with that villain enough to have some reads?
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08-24-2010 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint of Savages
Do your parents know what kind of stakes you play and how much you win/lose? If so what do they think of it?
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go away
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Originally Posted by Saint of Savages
I just reread my question and wow did it just come off completely wrong. It sounds like I'm a disapproving parent or something, really sorry about that.

I'm actually around his age, nineteen, and was curious because I only play 25-50nl and my parents have no idea the swings I go on which are dramatically less than IFS.

So I apologize if my question came off the wrong way, keep up the good work!

What are you apologizing for? Your question was fine. Ignore the new doucher.
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08-24-2010 , 08:08 PM
didn't seem to offend when I read it! Ppl just misread it or wanna have fun trashing ppl
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08-24-2010 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on
I agree. I would think he 4 bets AK here a lot of the time and the only other K's he has are KQ/KJ which I think raise the turn a lot (might polarize to much tho i guess). 44/55 raises the flop a lot of the time or at least the turn. I think your check on the river was great as a bluffcatch, but you didn't pull the trigger. Had you been playing with that villain enough to have some reads?
Well not exactly, im gunna defend IFS fold on the river.

On teh river he value bets basically any Kx, 44/55/88, or 67 for the str8. His bluffs are only missed FDs. I havent crunched any numbers but to me it seems like they are about even in combination numbers, might even be a bit favored on the vb side. But would villian ever take this ling vs IFS with his vb range? well if they have any history together, then villian should know that IFS likes to barrel/bluff a ton. So if im villian in this spot with any of his value range, i just call down to the river and when its checked to me i shove. Plus if villian is a thinking player, he will realize that the clubs missed and alot of the time IFS will check here as a bluff catcher, so i think that makes him check back alot of his missed draws to since i would think in this spot that i get called alot. I believe that IFS fold is correct and if he wanted to call river it would be close but veeery marginal since your never ahead of his vb range and only have a bluff catcher. I probably explained my reasons poorly but w/e hopefully they make sense to someone haha
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08-24-2010 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chamaican66
Well not exactly, im gunna defend IFS fold on the river.

On teh river he value bets basically any Kx, 44/55/88, or 67 for the str8. His bluffs are only missed FDs. I havent crunched any numbers but to me it seems like they are about even in combination numbers, might even be a bit favored on the vb side. But would villian ever take this ling vs IFS with his vb range? well if they have any history together, then villian should know that IFS likes to barrel/bluff a ton. So if im villian in this spot with any of his value range, i just call down to the river and when its checked to me i shove. Plus if villian is a thinking player, he will realize that the clubs missed and alot of the time IFS will check here as a bluff catcher, so i think that makes him check back alot of his missed draws to since i would think in this spot that i get called alot. I believe that IFS fold is correct and if he wanted to call river it would be close but veeery marginal since your never ahead of his vb range and only have a bluff catcher. I probably explained my reasons poorly but w/e hopefully they make sense to someone haha

I think villain would have to have a lot of history with IFS to not raise the flop or turn with a K or 44/55. From villains point of view it looks like IFS is setting up for a PSB on river, and then chickens out... making a perfect spot to steal. I guess you could level yourself into thinking that he can only make that bet with a busted draw knowing IFS's calling range is very thin. I don't know if that makes sense. It does in my mind haha. I think I make this call tho.
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08-25-2010 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chamaican66
Well not exactly, im gunna defend IFS fold on the river.

On teh river he value bets basically any Kx, 44/55/88, or 67 for the str8. His bluffs are only missed FDs. I havent crunched any numbers but to me it seems like they are about even in combination numbers, might even be a bit favored on the vb side. But would villian ever take this ling vs IFS with his vb range? well if they have any history together, then villian should know that IFS likes to barrel/bluff a ton. So if im villian in this spot with any of his value range, i just call down to the river and when its checked to me i shove. Plus if villian is a thinking player, he will realize that the clubs missed and alot of the time IFS will check here as a bluff catcher, so i think that makes him check back alot of his missed draws to since i would think in this spot that i get called alot. I believe that IFS fold is correct and if he wanted to call river it would be close but veeery marginal since your never ahead of his vb range and only have a bluff catcher. I probably explained my reasons poorly but w/e hopefully they make sense to someone haha
exactly. I mean, for me to be ahead he must have NOT raised flop with a FD, and decide to ship river despite that my hand looks very much like a hand that's gonna c/c I think. I also extremely doubt he'd raise a king on that flop.
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08-25-2010 , 03:15 AM
the turn is a good card to continue floating right?

also: how do you play the hand if you have the king?
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08-25-2010 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Maddes
the turn is a good card to continue floating right?

also: how do you play the hand if you have the king?
I have actually thought about that quite a bit, and I'm still unsure whetever shoving or checking is better. I think shoving might be a bit better though, but it depends on how light he vbets.
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08-25-2010 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
I have actually thought about that quite a bit, and I'm still unsure whetever shoving or checking is better. I think shoving might be a bit better though, but it depends on how light he vbets.
Is your bet sizing the same with a K on the turn as it is with AA. I know its hard to answer this question but I think it might change a lot.
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08-25-2010 , 05:02 AM
That K on the turn means that no value hand should slow down and I think IFS betsizing sets up a 2/3 riv shove perfectly. But that riv 8 is a bad card not just cos it completes a straight (although I would likely raise the flop as villain with SD) but also cos (again for me without some sick dynamic) 88 and lower would likely call pre and 99+ would likely 4bet, so the one remaining hand you could get value from just made a set. IFS has to go into c/c mode and this is only a call after you've seen villain be capable of bluff shoving when repping thin who knows that IFS is good enough to even lay down AA=22.
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08-25-2010 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alienatu
i don't get it.. ca he really rep a K here that often without raising that drawy flop ? or at least the turn ?

his line looks more of what u have, a bluffcatcher (pp 66-QQ) which wouldn't make any sense of shoving the river ... so mostly he represents air here or 88.

but meh ... i don't play midstakes ...
i think those midpairs are folding turn some of the time, and not really shoving river! and referring to the person below you i think calling turn >>> raising with KX+ fwiw.

and agree that K is actually a great card to float for villain. and i would also guess that you might bet slightly bigger the turn if you have A king here IFS?!
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08-25-2010 , 08:46 AM
So what is the reason you do play at FTP now? Beause before when I did ask you why you dident play at FTP it was beause of the Tax situation.
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08-25-2010 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by P1ayDaRuSh
So what is the reason you do play at FTP now? Beause before when I did ask you why you dident play at FTP it was beause of the Tax situation.
Because Ipoker is rigged and the FTP is easy
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08-25-2010 , 10:12 AM
what are your thoughts to the size of the player pool on FTP compared to ipoker, obviously it is alot bigger. alot of your hands are played the way they are due to intimate knowledge of the villains patterns and previous decisions will it take time for you to build up the same profile of these villains due to the fact you play quite low volume?
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08-25-2010 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Money022
What are you apologizing for? Your question was fine. Ignore the new doucher.
Eh... I just didn't like how the question sounded after I came back to it. Kind of like, "Do your parents know what your doing young man?" Kind of thing.

I shouldn't have apologized but I felt like I needed to rephrase the question.
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08-25-2010 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by inthepub5
what are your thoughts to the size of the player pool on FTP compared to ipoker, obviously it is alot bigger. alot of your hands are played the way they are due to intimate knowledge of the villains patterns and previous decisions will it take time for you to build up the same profile of these villains due to the fact you play quite low volume?
to hijack this question, I think ipoker has way more spazzy type players. Whereas FTP has more predictable solid type players which are easier to read.
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08-25-2010 , 02:58 PM
I'm so tired, think about I'm about to get sick Stupid school. Anyways, played like 100 hands and ended up like +100$. Might play more later tonight.



Biggest winning hand:



Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

gdLuckSir (CO): $400.00
4HrwOrKwEEk (BTN): $686.50
prrrmiaow (SB): $400.00
logistik (BB): $468.70
wadewj (UTG): $400.00
Pokermoney07 (MP): $416.40

prrrmiaow posts SB $2.00, logistik posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Pokermoney07 has Q 9

fold, Pokermoney07 raises to $12.00, fold, 4HrwOrKwEEk raises to $42.00, fold, fold, Pokermoney07 calls $30.00

Flop: ($90.00, 2 players) T 6 3
Pokermoney07 checks, 4HrwOrKwEEk checks

Turn: ($90.00, 2 players) 5
Pokermoney07 bets $40.00, 4HrwOrKwEEk calls $40.00

River: ($170.00, 2 players) 7
Pokermoney07 bets $240.00, fold

Pokermoney07 wins $167.00








Biggest losing hand:



Full Tilt - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

razrwar (MP): $443.00
CTPAXA_HET (CO): $208.20
Pokermoney07 (BTN): $551.00
Regulator06 (SB): $433.30
4HrwOrKwEEk (BB): $406.00
Korzakov (UTG): $400.00

Regulator06 posts SB $2.00, 4HrwOrKwEEk posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Pokermoney07 has Q K

Korzakov raises to $12.00, razrwar calls $12.00, fold, Pokermoney07 calls $12.00, fold, fold

Flop: ($42.00, 3 players) K 2 5
Korzakov bets $28.00, razrwar calls $28.00, Pokermoney07 calls $28.00

Turn: ($126.00, 3 players) T
Korzakov checks, razrwar bets $102.00, Pokermoney07 calls $102.00, Korzakov calls $102.00

River: ($432.00, 3 players) 8
Korzakov bets $258.00 and is all-in, razrwar raises to $301.00 and is all-in, fold

razrwar shows K A (One Pair, Kings)
Korzakov shows A 3 (Flush, Ace High)
Korzakov wins $945.00
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08-25-2010 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Saint of Savages
Eh... I just didn't like how the question sounded after I came back to it. Kind of like, "Do your parents know what your doing young man?" Kind of thing.

I shouldn't have apologized but I felt like I needed to rephrase the question.
Yeah, it's kind of hard to understand a person's tone when reading a comment. Some chose to read into things negatively. I guess their glass is half empty.

"I gotta have more cowbell!"
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