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04-17-2014 , 08:30 AM
Hi all,

I decided to open a blog here because this is probably this last chance for me to really improve my game. I have been playing poker around 2,5years but last 16month a bit more seriously.

Even I think I have improved my game past two years, it is definitely not enough. I have not moved from 2NL to anywhere. I was close this year, I had few shots on 5NL but I don't know what happened last two months because I have the biggest downswing in my short poker career.

[IMG]http://s22.************/ljh1mcm01/all.png[/IMG]

so far I focused on 9max, usually around 8-11tables on PS.

I switched to 6max and I will focus only on 6max since now. I know it is a bit more difficult and a bit more swingy but when I am lossing money on 9max, I can also loose them in 6max, no different

This blog is mainly for me. Put here summary of my sessions, time to time some hand.

The goal is simple: Settle down on 6max and moved to 5NL this year without depositing a single penny.

I hope you will help me to improve my game! thanks
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04-17-2014 , 08:38 AM
Yesterday I had first 6max session. I started with 4 tables, then move to 6 tables. I was not playing particularly bad but as usually I did a few bad decision.

The biggest trouble I am having right now is my mindset. It is difficult to concentrate when I loose some allin which I should've won easily. I lost recently too many KK int AA or AA into set. I am sure when I am all in, I am going to loose. Unfortunately yesterday's session was not different

[IMG]http://s1.************/52isssarj/cg_6max.png[/IMG]
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04-17-2014 , 09:26 AM
all, can you see the pictures I posted in previous posts?

Last edited by Rogger1999; 04-17-2014 at 09:50 AM.
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04-21-2014 , 11:23 AM
The tag img with my link does not work, I have no idea why. The same images but links from a different site works fine

so 2NL history:



and my first 6max session

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04-21-2014 , 01:30 PM
I look forward to seeing more graphs!.....I've been playing for many years and 2nL is the only stake that i crush long term :'(
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04-21-2014 , 02:06 PM
Good luck with your journey from 2NL to 2NL. Looks like you completed it before you even started.
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04-23-2014 , 02:44 AM
thanks guys!

Yesterday I was in terrible mood and it took me a while to start really focusing on the game.

Before that I hit kk<aa, one really terrible call with OESD against a pair and one nice all in 88<99 But I was not playing well, nothing like I was unlucky or something.

my second 6-max session


lot of things to improve
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04-24-2014 , 07:34 AM
I found here on 2+2 very nice article for 6max:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...inners-987195/

I would recommend it to everyone who just starts with 6max
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04-28-2014 , 10:14 AM
what ever I touch, it does not seem to work. When I go all in, I am always sure I will loose:/

this month so far:


yesterday's session:


+ at the end I hit KK<AA..as almost every session.

I know I am not playing particular the best poker around but I also have the feeling I am not the worst one. Is EV difference like this normal at 6max / 2nl?
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04-28-2014 , 10:17 AM
waste of time playing 2nl, save up and start at 25nl
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04-28-2014 , 10:21 AM
I will change the blog the 'crying blog'.

I have no trouble to spot the fish but when no luck on my side




    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26302001

    BTN: $1.13 (56.5 bb)
    SB: $3.73 (186.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): $1.88 (94 bb)
    UTG: $1.14 (57 bb)
    MP: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
    CO: $1.72 (86 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
    2 folds, CO raises to $1.72 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.70

    Flop: ($3.45) 9 3 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($3.45) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($3.45) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: $3.45 pot ($0.12 rake)
    Final Board: 9 3 3 J K
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-$1.72 net)
    CO showed 7 9 and won $3.33 ($1.61 net)



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    04-28-2014 , 01:47 PM
    even I very like your idea, i will try to build my way up
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    04-28-2014 , 02:33 PM
    my favourite hand that happens few days ago, run it twice...

      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26304911

      BTN: $2 (100 bb)
      Hero (SB): $2.90 (145 bb)
      BB: $0.93 (46.5 bb)
      UTG: $1.69 (84.5 bb)
      MP: $2.19 (109.5 bb)
      CO: $1.03 (51.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.36, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.64

      Flop: ($4.08) 7 4 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($4.08) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($4.08) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $4.08 pot ($0.14 rake)
      Final Board: 7 4 5 6 J
      BTN showed J J and won $3.94 ($1.94 net)
      Hero showed K K and lost (-$2 net)



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      Second Board: J A 5 2 Q
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      04-28-2014 , 04:27 PM
      i play micros - all sort, and now nl2 24t to make some lolbucks ( finishin lol 1m hands again), and it could be not so bad if u "crush", i have more experience in micros its normal, but... u must tilt hardcore to lose 25 bi in 14k sample and have massive leaks. Even a normal reg at 10 and 25c stakes a litle harder its very hard to lose that many buyins in 14k hands.... never experience that or know someone that experience...

      wish u good luck

      Subbed
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      04-29-2014 , 02:50 AM
      hmm thanks for you feedback... Joining some study group would be nice I guess
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      04-29-2014 , 05:39 AM
      Goodluck!

      The only thing I'd advise you is to not look at the EV-line, because usually people can easily blame losses on variances, instead of getting it in bad. I stopped looking at EV for just that purpose.

      You can do it
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      04-29-2014 , 08:21 AM
      I am still thinking about it, here is the final downswing, this all happens like in 10minutes - FEEDBACK is more than welcome:

      1) preflop all in KK < AA. I lost -$2.2

      2) Villian quite loose, something like VPIP = 40. -$0.9

        Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26344871

        CO: $2 (100 bb)
        BTN: $1.92 (96 bb)
        Hero (SB): $2.05 (102.5 bb)
        BB: $2 (100 bb)
        UTG: $0.92 (46 bb)
        MP: $2.16 (108 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
        UTG raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, UTG raises to $0.92, Hero calls $0.72

        Flop: ($1.86) 7 5 T (2 players)
        Turn: ($1.86) Q (2 players)
        River: ($1.86) 9 (2 players)

        Results: $1.86 pot ($0.07 rake)
        Final Board: 7 5 T Q 9
        Hero showed K A and lost (-$0.92 net)
        UTG showed A T and won $1.79 ($0.87 net)



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        3) I cannot remember the Villian stats here: -$2.5

          Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26344881

          SB: $4.47 (223.5 bb)
          BB: $4.27 (213.5 bb)
          UTG: $2.50 (125 bb)
          MP: $1.61 (80.5 bb)
          Hero (CO): $2.51 (125.5 bb)
          BTN: $2.76 (138 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
          UTG raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.32, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.24, MP folds

          Flop: ($0.75) J 7 8 (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

          Turn: ($1.95) K (2 players)
          UTG checks, Hero bets $1.59 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.58 and is all-in

          River: ($5.11) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Results: $5.11 pot ($0.18 rake)
          Final Board: J 7 8 K 9
          UTG showed T A and won $4.93 ($2.43 net)
          Hero showed K K and lost (-$2.50 net)



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          4) Ok I deserved this one. I did not believe he has it: -$0.5

            Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26344891

            CO: $5.40 (270 bb)
            BTN: $3.67 (183.5 bb)
            Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)
            BB: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
            MP: $2.06 (103 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 9
            2 folds, BTN raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04

            Flop: ($0.18) 4 T 9 (3 players)
            Hero bets $0.12, BB calls $0.12, BTN folds

            Turn: ($0.42) 3 (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30

            River: ($1.02) 6 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BB checks

            Results: $1.02 pot ($0.04 rake)
            Final Board: 4 T 9 3 6
            Hero showed 8 9 and lost (-$0.48 net)
            BB showed T J and won $0.98 ($0.50 net)



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            5) I am not sure here if this is bad beat or bad play:/ : -$2.05

              Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26344901

              UTG: $1 (50 bb)
              MP: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
              Hero (CO): $3.09 (154.5 bb)
              BTN: $2.72 (136 bb)
              SB: $0.84 (42 bb)
              BB: $1.05 (52.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
              UTG posts BB OOP, UTG checks, MP raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.12, 4 folds, MP calls $0.08

              Flop: ($0.29) 9 3 A (2 players)
              MP bets $0.28, Hero raises to $0.98, MP raises to $1.68, Hero raises to $2.38, MP calls $0.25 and is all-in

              Turn: ($4.15) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              River: ($4.15) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Results: $4.15 pot ($0.15 rake)
              Final Board: 9 3 A 9 2
              MP showed A 9 and won $4 ($1.95 net)
              Hero showed A K and won $0.00 (-$2.05 net)



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              FEEDBACK is more than welcome
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              04-29-2014 , 08:23 AM
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              wow very nice. I will do the best today
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              04-29-2014 , 08:48 AM
              Hand 1: kk against aa is just a cooler.. happens

              Hand 2: you got it in good. so that is fine

              Hand 3: same as #2

              Hand 4: probably a check/fold otf in a multiway pot. With no draws..
              Ott you have soo little equity. so definitely a check.. definitely not a raise. or just a raise as a semi bluff. if you thought you would win the pot with a flushdraw than you would have had ~28% equity or something. A bet of slightly less then half the pot would give you better odds for your draw. too bad that the flushdraw wouldn't make the best hand in this case after all.


              Hand 5: he bets pot on the flop. which is a lot of strenght. Think the all in is ok.. could be a set. Or strong flushdraw.. maybe an weaker ace at this lvl. so it's not super bad .. think it is close EV wise. But usually we don't want to get it in with just top pair..

              Don't know how other players look at these hands? and don't know if you agree?
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              04-29-2014 , 09:34 AM
              It´s not a downswing, its normal variance. And as i said, your loses in the 14 k sample has to do with bad play i guess.
              Its possible to lose ofc in nl2 in 20k hands, or b\e with bad luck, but not so massive.

              So.... When villan have AA and you KK that situation doenst matter, because you will win too with AA ag. KK, its a situation that you in the
              long run will not win any $ at all, and will lose to the rake, so forget it. One day you will won a lot of AA ag KK, and all be equal.

              Hand 1 it happens, villan it´s not dead, have 30% equity with AT, you will lose 1 in 3.

              Hand 2 its okey, the shove turn its too big i just bet a litle less cos we crush the board. You lose, but its because this hands that nl2 is super soft, villan give u money calling with that drawing almost dead, you will make a ton of blinds in that spot.

              Hand 3: the 89 suited

              You should not have a calling range on the SB. So it´s a fold preflop.

              On the flop you should not have a donkbet range HU in this micros, so just c\c flop. As played dont donk the turn, if you had like A8 K8 you could bet per value but you have a very weak hand.

              Problem is the db\ you just c\c and fold turn, the easy way to play here.

              Hand 4: the AK of

              3bet its okey, i´ll go for 0.16$

              Flop its close without information about the villans. Its not a leak shove in nl2 here in this spot ag. the normal donkeys. Against the romanina, belarussian nits its a fold, its a set. But you could just ship the flop i guess, its okey in the long run. Villans are pretty bad overal.
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              04-29-2014 , 09:54 AM
              Ohhh got it. Thanks you for you comment. Gonna read it again and makes some notes
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              04-29-2014 , 10:07 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Rogger1999
              Ohhh got it. Thanks you for you comment. Gonna read it again and makes some notes
              ah the 89 its not a hu pot, u could donk to take down, but in nl2 its kinda of worltless. Donk the turn no...

              GL
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              04-29-2014 , 04:51 PM
              I finally have not lost after ages. I played around 1k hands with very small profit $1.24. At least something

              This also made my day

                Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26356081

                UTG: $1.74 (87 bb)
                MP: $2.39 (119.5 bb)
                CO: $2.53 (126.5 bb)
                Hero (BTN): $1.79 (89.5 bb)
                SB: $1.57 (78.5 bb)
                BB: $2 (100 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.10

                Flop: ($0.27) 7 T 3 (2 players)
                UTG checks, Hero bets $0.18, UTG calls $0.18

                Turn: ($0.63) 3 (2 players)
                UTG checks, Hero bets $0.44, UTG raises to $1.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $1

                River: ($3.51) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $3.51 pot ($0.12 rake)
                Final Board: 7 T 3 3 9
                UTG showed 3 Q and won $3.39 ($1.65 net)
                Hero showed K K and lost (-$1.74 net)



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                04-29-2014 , 04:57 PM
                to be fair, I was also lucky.
                EP: 47/19/28hands. He went all in 3x in row, none called him
                CO: 38/28/40hands. I guessed he called EP with some Ax / Kx

                Even the call was EV- based on the cards, based on the read I would say it was not... what do you think?

                  Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26356091

                  UTG: $2.50 (125 bb)
                  MP: $3.05 (152.5 bb)
                  CO: $2.33 (116.5 bb)
                  BTN: $1.55 (77.5 bb)
                  Hero (SB): $1.79 (89.5 bb)
                  BB: $2.09 (104.5 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
                  UTG raises to $2.50 and is all-in, MP folds, CO calls $2.33 and is all-in, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.78 and is all-in, BB folds

                  Flop: ($6.47) K 9 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                  Turn: ($6.47) A (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                  River: ($6.47) J (3 players, 3 are all-in)

                  Results: $6.47 pot ($0.23 rake)
                  Final Board: K 9 2 A J
                  UTG showed 8 7 and won $0.00 (-$2.33 net)
                  CO showed Q A and won $1.04 (-$1.29 net)
                  Hero showed J A and won $5.20 ($3.41 net)



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                  04-29-2014 , 07:11 PM
                  h1 KK
                  should always fold the turn
                  check call flop and raise turn its always best than one pair (search for baluga theorem) always aply in this micros.

                  Second hand CO have ofc always best than AJ its a very bad call from you. You should call him but only you almost the last to act, and avoid doing that so light because the variance.

                  edit: btw ofc if he is shoving any2 JA its okey, the problem its that CO knows that too and call him, he will not call with AX, only AJ+ and good pairs, because there are more ppl left to act, so you cant never call that with less than an AK JJs+
                  GL.
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