PLO would also prevent him from massive shoves

Yep, you're completely defenseless against button min-raisers in that game

That won't happen that often. You're 99% of the time getting called by a higher pair on the turn.

He was punishing you for being a whale.

Maybe he's a metagame genius like Paisting. Give up a buyin now so they have to stop value betting you light for good.

Paisting's combined meta decisions over the past decade should start bearing fruit any year now.

Dude's just ahead of his time. Give it a few years and we'll find out the math behind equilibrium strategies is wrong and that in fact, the best response to someone min raising the button is to 3bet jam your entire range on the BB.

Yes he could.
The 45/35 isn't the biggest problem. The fact the 35% tends to be all in for 200bb over a minraise is the problem.

No he couldn't. Rake is far too high to play a style like that.

I think he definitely could with such a huge postflop edge. Especially on a site like Stars were rake for 2NL is actually pretty low (3.5%, 15bb cap). This also begs the question why OP refuses to play on Stars and instead chooses 888 where rake is significantly higher and rakeback is non-existent. With the amount of times OP gets it all-in, I suspect he could have saved a couple thousand in rake by now. The advice Blackrain79 gave many years ago about avoiding Stars is about as relevant today as the ancient poker strategy books OP has read.

Lol your thought process

Ok, so I heard about this dude through 6betme's thread and figured I'd see what's up. After going through the first 30 pages the only thing I could do was skim bc it was so unbearable. Has this guy ever had one single winning month, week or even day? From what I've looked at he hasn't and that's nuts. Seeing his graph at 2NL????? WTF??? Seems like he has a sprinkle or maybe even a dash of that slow me down up there in his ticker.

IeatUrBread is guy from 888 nl2 tables.

What comes to that hand looks like my thought process was right from beginning to end.

That's a good question. Have you ever had a winning day Paisting?

From what I've seen, there is no way possible with the way he plays. Damn, 2NL man... that's so crazy. Anyway, does anybody have any links that actually works to those old videos of him playing live? I have got to hear that ****.

I've read through all 121 pages, at least all posts of Paisting. At some point he wrote that he had winning days, but so far never a winning week or a winning month.

Day yes, week no. And one thing is sure if these -$10 dollar EV session keeps coming there is no way possibility to achieve winning week. If my hands hold then it's possible because then I play better overall.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Dilettantt (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
aks1966 (CO): $1.94 (97 bb)
OmgAKs (BU): $3.86 (193 bb)
Paisting (SB): $2.21 (111 bb)
awaxgood (BB): $3.84 (192 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is SB with K♦ K♥
1 fold, aks1966 (CO) raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Paisting (SB) 3-bets to $0.28, 1 fold, aks1966 (CO) 4-bets to $1.94 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls $1.66

Flop: ($3.90) J♦ 9♣ 2♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($3.90) 2♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($3.90) 7♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $3.90 (Rake: $0.24)

Showdown:
aks1966 (CO) shows J♠ J♣ (a full house, Jacks full of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Paisting (SB) shows K♦ K♥ (two pair, Kings and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

aks1966 (CO) wins $3.66

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Dilettantt (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
OmgAKs (MP): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (CO): $2.02 (101 bb)
jjpalencia (BU): $7.23 (362 bb)
m1keGT (SB): $2.15 (108 bb)
DirtbagDave (BB): $2.21 (111 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with J♣ 7♣
2 players fold, Paisting (CO) raises to $0.08, jjpalencia (BU) 3-bets to $0.20, 2 players fold, Paisting (CO) calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.43) 5♦ 7♠ J♥ (2 players)
Paisting (CO) checks, jjpalencia (BU) bets $0.21, Paisting (CO) raises to $1.82 (all-in), jjpalencia (BU) calls $1.61

Turn: ($4.07) 5♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.07) 4♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.07 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
Paisting (CO) shows J♣ 7♣ (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

jjpalencia (BU) shows K♣ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 83%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

jjpalencia (BU) wins $3.82

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

sakegoqq (UTG): $2.03 (102 bb)
Pampushko (MP): $2.64 (132 bb)
Zeddsded (CO): $2.03 (102 bb)
Paisting (BU): $2.03 (102 bb)
mangalivlad (SB): $2.00 (100 bb)
Linamo82 (BB): $3.88 (194 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8♦ 8♠
sakegoqq (UTG) raises to $0.05, Pampushko (MP) 3-bets to $0.15, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) calls $0.15, 2 players fold, sakegoqq (UTG) calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.48) 9♣ J♠ 8♣ (3 players)
sakegoqq (UTG) checks, Pampushko (MP) bets $0.24, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.96, sakegoqq (UTG) folds, Pampushko (MP) raises to $2.49 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $0.92 (all-in)

Turn: ($4.24) 2♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.24) 7♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.24 (Rake: $0.26)

Showdown:
Pampushko (MP) shows A♣ T♣ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 30%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BU) shows 8♦ 8♠ (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 70%, River: 0%)

Pampushko (MP) wins $3.98

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Gfoer888 (UTG): $2.12 (106 bb)
Paisting (MP): $2.43 (122 bb)
Linamo82 (CO): $2.54 (127 bb)
OmgAKs (BU): $2.00 (100 bb)
awaxgood (SB): $2.10 (105 bb)
Dilettantt (BB): $2.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is MP with A♦ Q♣
1 fold, Paisting (MP) raises to $0.08, 1 fold, OmgAKs (BU) 3-bets to $0.24, 2 players fold, Paisting (MP) calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.51) Q♥ 4♠ 8♠ (2 players)
Paisting (MP) checks, OmgAKs (BU) bets $1.76 (all-in), Paisting (MP) calls $1.76

Turn: ($4.03) 6♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.03) 4♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.03 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
OmgAKs (BU) shows Q♠ K♠ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 46%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

Paisting (MP) shows A♦ Q♣ (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 54%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

OmgAKs (BU) wins $3.78

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Boulann (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
CaptainCouch (CO): $4.62 (231 bb)
PokeRRRon (BU): $1.91 (96 bb)
Paisting (SB): $3.95 (198 bb)
OmgAKs (BB): $2.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is SB with J♦ Q♥
3 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.08, OmgAKs (BB) 3-bets to $0.24, Paisting (SB) calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.48) 9♥ 8♦ T♥ (2 players)
Paisting (SB) checks, OmgAKs (BB) bets $1.76 (all-in), Paisting (SB) calls $1.76

Turn: ($4) 8♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4) 5♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
OmgAKs (BB) shows A♥ J♠ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 73%, Flop: 11%, Turn: 19%, River: 100%)

Paisting (SB) shows J♦ Q♥ (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 27%, Flop: 89%, Turn: 81%, River: 0%)

OmgAKs (BB) wins $3.75

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

_Swordman_ (UTG): $1.20 (60 bb)
aks1966 (MP): $4.91 (246 bb)
Dilettantt (CO): $2.16 (108 bb)
OmgAKs (BU): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (SB): $2.00 (100 bb)
benjata14 (BB): $2.15 (108 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is SB with 5♠ 5♥
4 players fold, Paisting (SB) raises to $0.08, benjata14 (BB) calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.16) T♣ J♠ 5♣ (2 players)
Paisting (SB) bets $1.92 (all-in), benjata14 (BB) calls $1.92

Turn: ($4) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4) 4♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
Paisting (SB) shows 5♠ 5♥ (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 84%, River: 0%)

benjata14 (BB) shows 6♣ 2♣ (a flush, Ten high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 16%, River: 100%)

benjata14 (BB) wins $3.75

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

overcranky (UTG): $2.57 (129 bb)
rlogiudice (MP): $2.03 (102 bb)
Paisting (CO): $16.29 (815 bb)
PathaPS (BU): $6.30 (315 bb)
OmgAKs (SB): $2.04 (102 bb)
Dilettantt (BB): $4.24 (212 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with A♦ K♣
1 fold, rlogiudice (MP) raises to $0.06, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $16.29 (all-in), 3 players fold, rlogiudice (MP) calls $1.97 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.09) 4♠ 7♣ 4♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.09) 7♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.09) T♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.09 (Rake: $0.25)

Showdown:
Paisting (CO) shows A♦ K♣ (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 78%, Turn: 52%, River: 50%)

rlogiudice (MP) shows A♣ 8♥ (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 22%, Turn: 48%, River: 50%)

Paisting (CO) wins $1.92
rlogiudice (MP) wins $1.92

Probably fake hands. Those don't happen.

then why did you play like sh.it between #8000 and #19000? you were 75 buyins above EV in 11k hands and still lost 150 buy ins.

Hahaha - only posting the losing hand.
You are such a ****** its unbelievable.

Summary for all:
1) Paisting jams with ATC
2) After losing his stupid plays he insults everyone in the chat ("Hope you die", "Hope your family get cancer" and similar)
3) Paisting posts his rare hands when he loses as a favorite and cries in the forum like a baby

So - why does anybody still give this fu%*ing ****** a normal advice. He is the most ******ed and stupiest person ever. Just laugh about his loses.

PAISTING - YOU ARE AN FU***** IDIOT - hahahahahaa

I ****ing love how you cherry pick a few hands where you lost as a favorite and never ever post a hand where you got it in bad.

Have you ever posted a hand where you got it in bad?

whenever those 61% hands dont win, thats when i know poker is rigged

Yeah, we get it. Doesn't mean you have to be an ******* to him and berate him for over 100 pages. This is the most entertaining thread on 2p2 right now, I'm grateful Paisting posts here instead of just losing thousands of BI in silence.

Dude ....

Just one for the lolz:

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 226.5 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) K 5 T
SB bets 96 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 96 BB and is all-in

Turn: (200 BB, 2 players) A

River: (200 BB, 2 players) 2

SB shows 7 3 (High Card, Ace)

Hero shows T Q (One Pair, Tens)

Hero wins 187.5 BB
Rake paid 12.5 BB

After this OP started to threaten me with putting a 9mm to my head and how he would tighten me to a tree.

Good guy me reported this, perhaps this gets him banned and protected from himself.
I would find it peculiar if 888 wouldn't do anything.