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11-04-2016 , 09:27 PM
Keep your head up!
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11-04-2016 , 10:21 PM
if ur goal is to stick at 50nl and win a meh cash rate forever + not improve much, u can go to other sites but if u're aiming to do anything nice in poker, good volume, improve and make a good hourly rate then u should stick with stars zoom tbh. + zoom is way more user friendly than any other site/tables/lobbies etc.

basically the only good thing about other sites is short term money for u, not sure it's the best idea but it's ur pick, gl
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11-05-2016 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi


Pretty average start to my month. Too many skilled and superior players in the 50z pool in the past couple of days just couldn't beat any of them.

What tilted me the most, what sent me just totally insane was that I dropped down to 25z and I won 8BI in the space of 500 hands. I love the one sided variance of this game I really do.

I gotta take my hat off to poker pros. I honestly can't imagine how stressful and infuriating dealing with variance can be.
As easy it may be to poke fun at you I won't this time, However I can relate to some of this especially losing to ******s and experiencing awful variance for long periods and then playing another stake to crush it and wonder wtf is happening?. Also regardless how good/bad the pool is you do need to beat the variance before you can beat the players and for some this can take longer than others and be a very frustrating process. At some point you also need to be quite humble and brutally honest with yourself are you really playing the best you can? is there spots you know you're beat and just dunking chips in because you have X invested or Y holdings. As for playing on others sites it seems like a case of ''The grass is always greener on the other side'' this may be true in some circumstances and you personally have to weigh up what your goals are.
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11-05-2016 , 04:02 AM
Thanks guys I really do appreciate the support.

I've lost about like 20BI in the last maybe 6k hands at 50z and I would say I spewed probably about 3BI. The truth is that these downswings really really affect me. The only way they don't is if my current bankroll isn't dented by the losses (went from 3k$ to 2k$).

I also want to make a new side goal. To stop being the biggest and saddest bitch on 2+2. It's got the the point were I'm annoying my self. I'm not gona be a bitch anymore I'm just gona upload hands and talk strat. You will get the occassional salty comment but I don't wana ***** write paragraphs complaining becuse it happens to everyone. Maybe it's happened more to me (which I honestly do believe) but it's part of the game so I should just suck it up and stop being such a massive ****ing bitch. It evens out in the long run (I hope) so I should just stfu and put my head down!


Ty guys and ty for the support/advice!
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11-05-2016 , 04:05 AM
Check out a website called pokerscout.com
It tracks all the traffic on all poker sites
Will give you all the information you need
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11-05-2016 , 10:07 AM
Enjoyed your last few posts, very grounding.

And yeah probs stay on zoom, work hard and gl!
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11-05-2016 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Labax
Enjoyed your last few posts, very grounding.

And yeah probs stay on zoom, work hard and gl!
Thanks bro
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11-05-2016 , 03:57 PM
Today



I don't really know what's going on atm can't seem to have a winning day.
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11-05-2016 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Today



I don't really know what's going on atm can't seem to have a winning day.
Look at the variance calculator

You do not understand variance
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11-05-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by max85
Look at the variance calculator

You do not understand variance
I've played over 900k hands of poker and I'm running below 180BI below my EV. I know variance. I've experienced the never ending trail of bad beats and setups. I've experienced the god mode variance were you can't lose a single hand. I know how unpredictable variance is and I know how it can tear you a 2nd a-hole.
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11-05-2016 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
To stop being the biggest and saddest bitch on 2+2. It's got the the point were I'm annoying my self. I'm not gona be a bitch anymore
Glad to hear it!

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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
I know variance. I've experienced the never ending trail of bad beats and setups. I've experienced the god mode variance were you can't lose a single hand.
Wait, wtf...
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11-05-2016 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
Glad to hear it!



Wait, wtf...
I honestly do think I sorta understand variance ( emphasis on the sorta). I'm just a massive bitch when it comes to variance. I'm a horrible winner and even worse of a loser. I mean if I played live I would ***** tilt the **** out of my opponents when I win and just annoying the crap out of them when I lose. Sorta like a mix of Tony G and Phil Hellmuth.
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11-05-2016 , 07:24 PM
Does anyone understand variance? I mean like, REALLY understand it?
Just ignore the senseless drama and hate, but keep being super honest to yourself, maybe you are not beating the games, who knows - just keep improving.
Anyway keep it up man!
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11-05-2016 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FenrirGG
Does anyone understand variance? I mean like, REALLY understand it?
Just ignore the senseless drama and hate, but keep being super honest to yourself, maybe you are not beating the games, who knows - just keep improving.
Anyway keep it up man!
Ty bro
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11-06-2016 , 12:22 PM
What do you guys think about this hand?



Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 2983685
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $51.10 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 2.5, Hands: 149
BB: $76.73 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 375
Hero (BTN): $54.17

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q 8
Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 8 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5.64, Hero calls $5.64

Turn: ($20.28) A (2 players)
SB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

River: ($40.78) A (2 players)
SB bets $30.96, Hero calls $30.96

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $102.70
SB shows A A
Hero shows Q 8
SB wins $101.95
(Rake: $0.75)
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11-06-2016 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
What do you guys think about this hand?



Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 2983685
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $51.10 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 2.5, Hands: 149
BB: $76.73 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 375
Hero (BTN): $54.17

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q 8
Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 8 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5.64, Hero calls $5.64

Turn: ($20.28) A (2 players)
SB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

River: ($40.78) A (2 players)
SB bets $30.96, Hero calls $30.96

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $102.70
SB shows A A
Hero shows Q 8
SB wins $101.95
(Rake: $0.75)
Props to villain if he shows you a bluff. I think calling river is burning money. I wouldn't imagine ranges expand that much in 3max at 50nl, maybe in theory they should, but in reality it's 50nl; he's just gonna have better boats
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11-06-2016 , 12:37 PM
Is this a spewy call? Villain has an aggression factor of 8.. Super aggressive and 3bets alot.I think my turn call is fine villains range is wide pre and he's super aggressive, I think he'll be barrelling this turn ALOT. He has AA ATcc KJcc AQ QQ which we block. He also has alot of missed FDs here but can we call?

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2983693
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $48.44 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 24
MP: $62.77 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 20, 3B: 12, AF: 2.4, Hands: 200
CO: $154.02 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 11.0, Hands: 86
Hero (BTN): $51.50
SB: $56.42 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 2.3, Hands: 223
BB: $50.00 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 9, AF: 7.9, Hands: 555

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.25) 5 3 Q (2 players)
BB bets $4.57, Hero calls $4.57

Turn: ($18.39) A (2 players)
BB bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

River: ($36.39) T (2 players)
BB bets $31.93, Hero calls $31.93
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11-06-2016 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Clanty
Props to villain if he shows you a bluff. I think calling river is burning money. I wouldn't imagine ranges expand that much in 3max at 50nl, maybe in theory they should, but in reality it's 50nl; he's just gonna have better boats
It's a really annoying spot because he shouldn't really have alot of Ax here. I mean AK AJ should slow down ott and we block AQ pretty hard.
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11-06-2016 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
What do you guys think about this hand?



Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 2983685
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $51.10 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 23, 3B: 9, AF: 2.5, Hands: 149
BB: $76.73 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 375
Hero (BTN): $54.17

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q 8
Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $4.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 8 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5.64, Hero calls $5.64

Turn: ($20.28) A (2 players)
SB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

River: ($40.78) A (2 players)
SB bets $30.96, Hero calls $30.96

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $102.70
SB shows A A
Hero shows Q 8
SB wins $101.95
(Rake: $0.75)

Fold to 3bet pre > Fold River > Call River.
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11-06-2016 , 01:34 PM
Q8 - If you have an edge then calling fine is obv fine. W/O postfglop edge default is to fold. OTR you gotta have a solid read about villain to be calling here. I'm assuming you have little reads on villain as you're posting it here, so fold pre. I'd probably call river because i honestly doubt villain donks turn with his ak here. Looks more like spew/flush draws spewing and getting a decent price i don't mind calling. River is definitely weird though.

KQ- If he's a spew monkey then calldown. You said he's agro, i can therefore see him overbluffing this turn as it's 'scary' and then following through with way too many bluffs on this river. You block his really nutted combos and whilst agro players follow through with too many bluffs on this river, they usually don't balance it by shoving thin value like AK etc. Exploit timing tells here imo, if he has a marginal hand he probably checks or tanks for a while before shoving. If he snap shoves he's more balanced towards nutted combos and bluffs (thus easier call blocking his very nutted combos)
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11-06-2016 , 05:38 PM
both probably should be close calls but in reality are going to be folds. We have a ton of Ax in h1 and h2 we don't block fd's which is good but i still think it's going to be a pretty clear fold without reads
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11-06-2016 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by papillon_
We have a ton of Ax in h1
We do?
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11-06-2016 , 06:22 PM
180 by and below EV is sick man that sucks I am 50 below lifetime
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11-06-2016 , 06:26 PM
meh, why is it so hard for u to fold.

hand 1 he is probably bluffing like 1/10 times here, obv call if he is somekind of manic but that's probably not the case

hand 2
think about ur range when you call the turn, you got tons of better hand to call(heaps Ax+combos)
yeah you block AQ,AK,KJ, but it's not like he is bluffing his 78s type combo everytime.

if I remember correctly, u suppose to make tons of exploitative fold at 50 since people just not bluffing enough not to mention those two hands are not even close to exploitative folds.
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11-06-2016 , 06:29 PM
Q8 easy fold pre.

KQ fold river.
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