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09-15-2016 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
But I don't see how a turn check with JJ is anything but 100% standard. What worse will ever call JJ on that turn? In before 66/77/88, they are folds.
Couple of things.

1. If I was going to bluff river do you think leading is better than xr? I feel like leading will get called by overpiars where xr could and should get him of overpairs.

2. What do you think my bluffing range should look like otr?

3. What do you think of villains call?

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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
I mean hero's line is meh, but that's not surprising.
That hurts.



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Originally Posted by mirage01
If your checking jacks there your checking all your over pairs basically.
Which you should be doing. I mean you could value bet hands like AA/KK because you don't block some of his draws but even those hands aren't getting 3 streets of value.
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09-15-2016 , 11:28 AM
66/77/88 are folds on the turn. SB doesnt have QJs or 9x. Go ahead. Try again.

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You just lose value from worse and allow worse to catch up
Worse should and probably will fold a lot + worse has like 4.5% on the turn so not so worried about it ''catching up''.

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If your checking jacks there your checking all your over pairs basically.
Your point being?
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09-15-2016 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Which you should be doing. I mean you could value bet hands like AA/KK because you don't block some of his draws but even those hands aren't getting 3 streets of value.
No need for 3 streets you can check rivers. You are betting two streets regardless so I don't see what checking turn does other than allowing opponent to catch up and losing value on bad rivers. Its weak play imo.
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09-15-2016 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mzbourg
66/77/88 are folds on the turn. SB doesnt have QJs or 9x. Go ahead. Try again.


Worse should and probably will fold a lot + worse has like 4.5% on the turn so not so worried about it ''catching up''.

You are making the mistake of assuming micro players are folding and calling correctly which is a big mistake. They are full of call monkeys who make terrible calls often. You should be playing to exploit them and checking jacks there is NOT. Hero can definitely have qjs btw and draws have more than 4.5% on turns.

Last edited by mirage01; 09-15-2016 at 11:52 AM.
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09-16-2016 , 02:11 AM
I don't think u should have a calling range preflop with that guy in BB. You're going to get squeezed so much that 3betting is so much better 100bb deep vs btn.

Also do you's think regs call the flop oop with QJs in that spot vs aggressive guy? I would not be in that spot in the first place but I think i will fold it otf.
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09-21-2016 , 07:13 AM
I'd prefer a turn bet with JJ if I was BB, it looks more like a bluff that B/X/B which is never a bluff in this spot. I'd also need to bet JJ because I would be double barrelling this turn with hands like KQ though.
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09-22-2016 , 12:06 AM
op busto?
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09-22-2016 , 12:42 AM
op your my hero!

whats your sn? or does anyone els know incase he has tilted himself to death he seems quite of late lol.
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09-22-2016 , 04:25 AM
Not busto lol

Haven't really got anything moving since update lost like another 1BI but that's about it.

Started uni so updates will become alot less frequent and I will ofc be playing less poker.

I'll give a proper update soon
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09-22-2016 , 04:36 AM
Is it just pure CS course? I did CS with games programming for 3 years and had no time for poker due to programming, also didn't really care for poker though as I liked programming better.
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09-22-2016 , 05:07 AM
Gl with uni this year man.

Originally came for the ev lines. Hung around for the busto speculation. Am now fully in to see how you do on the grind.
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09-22-2016 , 05:40 AM
Any fit freshers?
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09-22-2016 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
Is it just pure CS course? I did CS with games programming for 3 years and had no time for poker due to programming, also didn't really care for poker though as I liked programming better.
Yeah its pure CS. It's only year one and I need 40% to pass the year. Not gona put too much effort in this year since it doesn't count to my grade at the end of my degree.


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Originally Posted by Labax
Gl with uni this year man.

Originally came for the ev lines. Hung around for the busto speculation. Am now fully in to see how you do on the grind.

Ty man



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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
Any fit freshers?
There's actually more than I thought there would be. I mean there are barely any at my course it's mainly a sausage fest. But in the atrium there is definitely alot of eye candy.
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09-22-2016 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Yeah its pure CS. It's only year one and I need 40% to pass the year. Not gona put too much effort in this year since it doesn't count to my grade at the end of my degree.
That's what I thought, until it came to applying for internships at end of year 2 and my grades were too low.
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09-23-2016 , 09:56 PM
So...

Today...



I've made a rather big decision that I have been pondering over for quite a while now..

I've deciding to quit online poker.

I honestly can't help but feel robbed. I know it might sound silly to some people but Jesus Christ, I'm down like 170BI EV in the last 535k hands. I definitely think there are flaws in my game but at the same time I think it's clear that I am probably the unluckiest 25z around atm. Also to the people who get annoyed about me complaining about my luck so much, please put yourself in my position before you comment about how I complain so often. The variance is just insanely stressful and it's something that I really don't have to and don't want to deal with. I don't really know if everyone experiences this type of variance or it's just me?

I want to thank everyone who joined in my PGC and commented and I wana wish the rest of you good luck. I'll answer any questions anyone has for me .
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09-23-2016 , 11:41 PM
You will be forgotten and your $ will be missed by all the regs at w/e you stake played ul though, looking forward to seeing the new thread in a week.
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09-24-2016 , 02:23 AM
See you in a week
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09-24-2016 , 04:18 AM
I would open up a new account your current account is clearly cursed.
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09-24-2016 , 07:20 AM
I'm not really interested in trying to make money in poker anymore. Poker for me was always just a way to make extra money on the side tbh. I didn't really mind if I never made money since I really enjoyed the game so much, but In the last 2-3 months I find my self just not enjoying the game anymore.
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09-24-2016 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
I'm not really interested in trying to make money in poker anymore. Poker for me was always just a way to make extra money on the side tbh. I didn't really mind if I never made money since I really enjoyed the game so much, but In the last 2-3 months I find my self just not enjoying the game anymore.
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Are you one of those butt hurt ******s that had to quit poker because it got hard and you didn't put the time and effort in and now to pass time you come on to this forum and make some really really stupid comments, I mean seriously stupid comments.
^_^

had a feeling you wouldnt last long in the poker world with these types of comments

170bi under ev is nothing
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09-24-2016 , 09:16 AM
I doubt anybody would enjoy losing at poker over 535K hands. I applaud your determination and commitment, but is there a hole in your mental game??? IDK, I'm just throwing it out there.

Why would not just drop down to a level you know you can crush (2nl if necessary) and crush it for a few weeks, to bring the fun back? If you can't bring yourself to do that, challenge yourself truthfully as to why not?

If ego is any part of the problem (and you really need to be honest with yourself about this) then you may have a solvable mental game issue.

Not saying any of this is pertinent - just trying to help.

tl/dr If you love poker, love winning, and don't care about the income, play at a level you crush (and of course keep studying and improving).

Whilst I don't have your volume, or the size of you downswing, I've been in a similar position...my answer, get **** better (and I'm **** 60 next month ).

So for the last three months I've forensically dissected my game, whilst simultaneously building my own coaching manual from many source documents, to convert into a pdf and upload to my Kindle. It's been a s**tload of work and meant I've hardly played for three months, but I've discovered over 100 leaks in my game ...I s**t you not.

Gotta be better than quitting is it not ??
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09-24-2016 , 09:46 AM
I'm not just gona stop playing online poker all together. I'll still play just like 10k hands a month or something, I'm just not gona have any goals or anything when it comes to poker.

I don't really want to play anymore because I feel burned out, at the end of the day poker is a game and you should only play it because you enjoy it. I just don't enjoy playing as much as I used to. Maybe the urge to play again will come back to me sometime in the future, for know tho I don't really like playing anymore.


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Originally Posted by Fatboy54
Why would not just drop down to a level you know you can crush (2nl if necessary) and crush it for a few weeks
This is actually pretty funny because everytime I have bad downswings at 25z I move down to 16z where I literally just crush the pool for 8bb/100. It's like I use all my run good at 16z and have nothing but run bad at 25z lol.
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09-24-2016 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
170bi under ev is nothing
Eyyy look at that. Another comment you can add to your collection of ******ed comments. You're racking up quite a collection.
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09-24-2016 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fatboy54
Why would not just drop down to a level you know you can crush (2nl if necessary) and crush it for a few weeks, to bring the fun back?
Can confirm. Crushing 2nl regs is really fun. Just seeing that green line look like Mt everest.
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09-24-2016 , 01:00 PM
In honesty you just need to keep working on your game. We all think we are better than we actually are, in reality you ran 3bb below ev for 565k hands, which sucks, but if you were as good as you thought then you should have still made a good amount after variance (between 3.5K-5k USD depending what stake your volume went into as a 3bb/100 return post RBshould not be hard to accomplish at micro's. I'm not saying you haven't been unlucky, because clearly you have, but on the same note, you can't just use that as an excuse after every losing session.
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