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08-11-2016 , 01:23 PM
highly doubt he would have any side action
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08-11-2016 , 01:30 PM
He mentioned before I think about possibly taking side bets but like I said I wasn't sure if he ended up doing so and same with the time frame, I think 30 days/Month would be extremely difficult to complete without some real run good. ( That is with using a strict 30BI's + BRM )
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08-11-2016 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SB12
He mentioned before I think about possibly taking side bets but like I said I wasn't sure if he ended up doing so and same with the time frame, I think 30 days/Month would be extremely difficult to complete without some real run good. ( That is with using a strict 30BI's + BRM )
he also said if he took action he'd have to take it more seriously and look to play on stars
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08-11-2016 , 02:58 PM
Awesome job playing nearly 19 hours last night! Incredible. Hitting that stride as well.
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08-11-2016 , 03:00 PM
Ya that was insane great stream!
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08-11-2016 , 03:01 PM
What's the final tally after that epic session?
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08-11-2016 , 03:08 PM
Pretty sure it's $85 or $86. I'm sure he'll update the specifics.
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08-11-2016 , 05:01 PM
Turning a terrible stream session into a session about intense dedication and not giving up was brilliant. Truly great marketing.
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08-11-2016 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
The high end streamers with donation-jar and developed "tipping culture" gets 20k+ a month in donations alone. One streamer accidentally showed his wallet the 18th in the month once and he was already over 18k in donations. If you want to see something sad check out the big titties girl streamers, top donators there is at 30-40k / girl. Just one tipper alone makes one year of streaming insanely profitable for those young girls. (Take in the other donators + sub + ads and it gets ridiculous for any young person). And they aren't even close to as popular as their opposite sex.

The "great"(as in entertaining/performers) boygamer streamers doesn't even have to be good at playing, it's about developing a bond. They make the watcher feel that they are chilling with their friend who calls girls on stream etc. That hearthstone streamer is a good example, I don't recall his name now though but he doesn't compete professionally in the game at all yet he is the most popular streamer almost always on hearthstone tab.

This is a thing that is going to be very different on polk stream though I think, poker players aren't going to be tipping their ass off because they are move money oriented in their stream watching as in gaining EV.

Some popular streamers that play the best games for streaming popularity doesn't even do a tipping jar(like league of legends), they make so much money from ads and are able to push 12 hour sessions without tilting all the profit away
People just don't donate to poker streamers like they do other streamers. Especially to a millionaire end boss poker player. Although I doubt Doug cares about that and cares more about building his brand.

I do agree with you guys though that Doug is over thinking the micros. Especially that KsKxsQQ(Doug held QJss) board where villain check raised flop, turn went check/check and villain 4x overbet shipped the river and Doug went on about how his range was capped and villain knows Doug never has a K there because he checked back the turn. While that is true I highly doubt 4NL players are thinking on this level and trying to bluff Doug off a Q here and instead are hoping he has a Q that won't fold. Although I am sure there are plenty of decent low stakes players that have moved down just to try and outplay the Endboss so I can see how you can get leveled in some spots.

Holy #%$ at a 50 buy in downswing at 2NL.

Last edited by IPlayNLHE; 08-11-2016 at 05:31 PM.
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08-11-2016 , 05:52 PM
He was playing $4nl for a time. He actually profited at $2nl. Shot taking ftl
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08-11-2016 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
People just don't donate to poker streamers like they do other streamers. Especially to a millionaire end boss poker player. Although I doubt Doug cares about that and cares more about building his brand.

I do agree with you guys though that Doug is over thinking the micros. Especially that KsKxsQQ(Doug held QJss) board where villain check raised flop, turn went check/check and villain 4x overbet shipped the river and Doug went on about how his range was capped and villain knows Doug never has a K there because he checked back the turn. While that is true I highly doubt 4NL players are thinking on this level and trying to bluff Doug off a Q here and instead are hoping he has a Q that won't fold. Although I am sure there are plenty of decent low stakes players that have moved down just to try and outplay the Endboss so I can see how you can get leveled in some spots.

Holy #%$ at a 50 buy in downswing at 2NL.
Even up to 50 and 100nl people do not think this way. A lot(almost all of them) of pros at these limit will simply overbetshove because they have a hand.
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08-11-2016 , 10:28 PM
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What's the final tally after that epic session?
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Pretty sure it's $85 or $86. I'm sure he'll update the specifics.
He tweeted his update/final result:

gN Doug Polk ‏@DougPolkPoker · 7h7 hours ago

Its done. 20 hour stream complete, br went $119 --> $45 --> 85. Taking the day off from streaming, back sunday at 5 pm pst. #GrindNation
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08-11-2016 , 11:26 PM
Subbed good luck!
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08-12-2016 , 05:24 AM
I understand why regs give you no action in hunl online, but don't any of the SHR businessmen want to play you? Or they just dont play online rly? I remember in the 11k satty sng at wsop last year the chinese guys wanted to know 'how they can play you at 100/200 on pokerstars'

What do you think will be the most import step in your challenge? $100-200, $200-500, or $500-1500, if you could magically skip one of these steps somehow.

Next step is to coach/stake an unknown and get them to do the same challenge

glgl
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08-12-2016 , 08:32 AM
I think we have a decent enough sample size to conclude that doug was a fish on a heater in the high stakes games.

All hail Durrr and Isildur!
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08-12-2016 , 08:48 AM
great streams so far Doug ! would love to see more in eu friendly time in future
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08-12-2016 , 10:42 AM
gl gl!
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08-12-2016 , 11:59 AM
08-12-2016 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nationstation
I understand why regs give you no action in hunl online, but don't any of the SHR businessmen want to play you? Or they just dont play online rly? I remember in the 11k satty sng at wsop last year the chinese guys wanted to know 'how they can play you at 100/200 on pokerstars'

What do you think will be the most import step in your challenge? $100-200, $200-500, or $500-1500, if you could magically skip one of these steps somehow.

Next step is to coach/stake an unknown and get them to do the same challenge

glgl
The most important step like this is getting off the bottom... once you get rolling (especially when you're a world-class talent) it's like a snowball.

I get that this sounds like the old "you need to go to a level where they respect your raises" -- in Doug's case, that isn't true -- he needs to get to a level where his advanced poker thinking can pay off for him. The portions of the stream I watched he was doing too much overthinking and using tricks that micro donks couldn't even understand, much less pay off from...

So I'm saying anywhere from the other night when he got down to $52 or whatever, until he's at at least $500-$1000, will be the biggest "test."

I know it sounds backwards, but we all know Doug can beat bigger games -- micro games require a whole different toolbox and skillset.
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08-12-2016 , 09:50 PM
Day 4: $85 - The 19 hour throwdown

The day kicked off in terrible fashion. We took a shot at NL 4, and proceeded to quite quickly lose 5 buyins (our stop loss) and had to move down in stakes. I made a pretty marginal jam with AK over a cold 4b that had KK, but it was 4 handed and the people in the game were playing pretty loose.

I then got AK vs AKs vs AQ on the bubble of the big buck, with me and the other AK covering the AQ by a wide margin. It was $10 just for mincashing, so needless to say we really needed to not take a beat here. Unfortunately the AKs hit a flush and we bubbled the mtt.

At that point I was playing a style that was probably not optimal for NL 2, and lost a few buyins.

It was then that I realized that I needed to do something to turn the ship around, and I promised to the stream right there at 9 pm PST that I was going to grind until I hit my $10 bonus (I was currently at 49%). There was some trolling going on and some people trying to bet money I would not finish it out, thinking I didn't realize how long that it would be. I knew very well that it would take me 14-16 more hours and set to work.

At two points, things started to look very bleak. The roll made its way down to $45, admist a series of beats/coolers/some marginal plays. I just cant look myself in the eye for complaining about 2 NL bad beats so I am not going to do that here. But it got pretty dire.

One of the major problems of the challenge, is that there are a lot of regs dropping down in stakes to play with me. For the majority of the evening I was 6 tabling with 5 regs, all of which who were playing somewhat reasonable. Not exactly and authentic 1c/2c experience when your opponents are stacking you and shouting BAZAM's.

However, in the tail end of the session, I started to get things together. I started to make folds where I needed to, and also made some adjustmetns in my preflop strategy that seemed to have good results. I feel confident that I will do much better moving forward.

I made up some ground and cleared the bonus to end the day at $85. Frankly, I could not be more happy to be where I am now, despite it being the lowest point of the challenge. I feel that I am on the up and up, and with the adjustments I have made going into week two I would expect this week to end in the green.

I will be back to play Sunday at 5 PM PST.
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08-12-2016 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
Day 4: $85 - The 19 hour throwdown

The day kicked off in terrible fashion. We took a shot at NL 4, and proceeded to quite quickly lose 5 buyins (our stop loss) and had to move down in stakes. I made a pretty marginal jam with AK over a cold 4b that had KK, but it was 4 handed and the people in the game were playing pretty loose.

I then got AK vs AKs vs AQ on the bubble of the big buck, with me and the other AK covering the AQ by a wide margin. It was $10 just for mincashing, so needless to say we really needed to not take a beat here. Unfortunately the AKs hit a flush and we bubbled the mtt.

At that point I was playing a style that was probably not optimal for NL 2, and lost a few buyins.

It was then that I realized that I needed to do something to turn the ship around, and I promised to the stream right there at 9 pm PST that I was going to grind until I hit my $10 bonus (I was currently at 49%). There was some trolling going on and some people trying to bet money I would not finish it out, thinking I didn't realize how long that it would be. I knew very well that it would take me 14-16 more hours and set to work.

At two points, things started to look very bleak. The roll made its way down to $45, admist a series of beats/coolers/some marginal plays. I just cant look myself in the eye for complaining about 2 NL bad beats so I am not going to do that here. But it got pretty dire.

One of the major problems of the challenge, is that there are a lot of regs dropping down in stakes to play with me. For the majority of the evening I was 6 tabling with 5 regs, all of which who were playing somewhat reasonable. Not exactly and authentic 1c/2c experience when your opponents are stacking you and shouting BAZAM's.

However, in the tail end of the session, I started to get things together. I started to make folds where I needed to, and also made some adjustmetns in my preflop strategy that seemed to have good results. I feel confident that I will do much better moving forward.

I made up some ground and cleared the bonus to end the day at $85. Frankly, I could not be more happy to be where I am now, despite it being the lowest point of the challenge. I feel that I am on the up and up, and with the adjustments I have made going into week two I would expect this week to end in the green.

I will be back to play Sunday at 5 PM PST.
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Solid, entertaining, glgl
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08-12-2016 , 10:31 PM
i told you 2nl regs dougie will be in the lab all night cooking up a formula to send you bums back to the streetz.... BAZAAM!
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08-12-2016 , 11:36 PM
Interesting to see such a Successful player with a self imposed "Stop Loss".

Makes sense to me, but oh.....so many "pros" say the concept is counter productive.
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08-13-2016 , 12:03 AM
It was a stop loss because he no longer had the proper bankroll to play 4nl, not a stop loss in the traditional sense of the term.
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08-13-2016 , 12:12 AM
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It was a stop loss because he no longer had the proper bankroll to play 4nl, not a stop loss in the traditional sense of the term.
......ahhh i see.....makes sense
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