I just witnessed one of the most donkaliscious hands ever tonight at 2/5nl, effective stacks $1,000

I was at a super wild table, lots of drinking and action and preflop raises up to $45 was getting called by everyone.

UTG ($300) raises $35, UTG+1 ($1,000) calls, MP calls, LP calls, HJ calls, BTN calls, BB ($3,000) calls.

Flop($265-ish) 7 6 4 r
BB chks, UTG goes all-in for $270, UTG+1 tanks then calls, folds around to the BB who raises to $1,000, UTG+1 says, "Well pot is too big, I have to call".

UTG tables his hand: KK
BB tables his hand: 53o
UTG+1 tables his hand: 55

Turn ($2.5K) J

River ($2.5k) 4

BB's 53o flopped straight holds up.

I was in shock that the UTG+1 basically called an all-in with an OESD and didn't give a moments thought to being behind the BB ... Its not like he was short stacked, he was at 200bb...

anyways, one of the most donkaliscious hands I've seen in a while...

DGI: that hand is interesting; it demonstrates a common donkey mentality: the bigger the pot... the more I can win when I make my hand!!!

I see a lot of players (and posters) betting 1/2 or 3/4 pot, because they don't want to "scare away" the drawing hands. What they don't realize is that donkalicious Donny doesn't give a **** whether he's getting the right price-- hell, he doesn't even know what that means... he just wants to win a big one-- these $30 pots are dreadfully boring compared to the $50 min BJ table he just came from.

You really think donkalicious Donny is folding his flush draw, or even top pair, just because you bet $50 into a $30 pot?

Don't just assume an old guy is a nit if he gives you evidence otherwise.

Villain here is old guy but not like ancient old; probably in his 60s. New 1/2 table forms, first hand goes like this:

6 or 7 people limp. Flop comes 764 with 2 clubs. Checks to MP who bets 11. Next guy raises to 22. Folds to villain who makes it 65. At this point I'm thinking villain must have 76 at the worst. Original bettor folds, guy who made it 22 jams for like 20 more, villain calls. Turn 2x river Qx making a 7c6c4x2xQx board. Villain tables A6xx proudly. Other guy tables Qc8c for a pair of queens and the winner. I was excited to be at this table.

Later in the session I limp 33, a few others limp. Button makes it 16. 3 callers, including the old guy villain and myself. Flop comes 8d7d7x. Check, then the old guy shoves for about 400 into 65. I have him covered, so this shove is actually 400 effective, not just covering other stacks. We all fold and he shows KxQx.

A little later I make it 15 with KK, old guy villain flats from the blinds. Flop AKTr. He checks, I bet 20, he makes it 50 very quickly. Against a lot of villains we need to at least consider the fact that if we 3b and he 4b's we're beat, but vs him I'm trying to think of the best line to get it in. He has over 400 in front of him and I have him covered. I make it 125. He instantly announces raise, counts out the call, then slides 2 stacks extra out there. I wait about 5 seconds then announce all in. He snaps and flips QTo. Turn A river who cares and I win a pot between 800 and 900 at 1/2.

I hear a guy who had given me crap earlier for almost no reason (I showed a hand I was folding to the guy next to me, while there were still two others in the pot, and despite the fact that he's not in the hand this dude gets really upset and starts demanding the dealer tables my hand. I hadn't said a word to him or been in a pot with him before that and he seemed like he had a personal vendetta...anyway...) starts talking to the guy next to him. "I knew that kid was gonna hit the ace on the turn, you just have to know that's coming." At that point I decided to stop being nice and get somewhat confrontational. "Uh excuse me sir he had one pair and a straight draw are you implying I needed to fill up there because my set seemed just fine to me." He got all flustered and said he assumed he flopped a straight; how else could that guy get that much money in!? He should understand that villain's gonna pile with weird **** given he jammed KQ on a 778 flop, but people don't pay enough attention at the table.

Funny hand yesterday. I had a good image at 1/2. Mostly card dead, but had shown up with the goods twice at showdown to win a couple large pots and was sitting on a little over 700.

Guy to my right covers the table and LAG, opening regularly and generally running the table over.

I look down at K10s Utg and throw out two whites, LAG raises to 12, 5 callers before it gets back to me, with both blinds folding. I decide to use my solid image to take the dead money that was in the pot already and pop it to 75. Folds back around to the button, that just sat down and bought in for 60, who calls all in. At this point, I think this jig is up. Board runs out 2467J 3 suited, I look up at the button who is shaking his head and says, " I missed ", and tables Q9o.

Last night @ 2/5 I returned from a bathroom break to witness the dumbest turn laydown in live poker history.

Board was 6696 and action was 3way. Shortstacking solid asian that had opened UTG shoved his remaining $125... MP tanked and folded pocket 9's face up to the table.

Well how could he jam without a 6 there?!?

everyone and their mother berated the guy when word travelled around the room.... I mean, I wanted to stick up for him but couldn't think of one positive thing to say atm.

Wonders if DGI will PM me where you're playing. That sounds ridiculous.

Mucking the winnar.

Table is pretty awesome...I'm not in this hand.

V1 is UTG and makes it $15 (he's been fairly tight so alarm bells should be going off to everyone)

V2 is the only caller, otb.

Both sitting on ~$150ish.

Flop 10JJ

V1 bets $30
V2 thinks for a bit and shoves $130ish total (lol)
V1 snap calls (I'm thinking he has quads at this point, like seriously dude was hella tight all night.)

As the cards are running out, V1 lifts up his cards and shows me (sitting next to him) Q9 which quite is surprising

Turn 10
River 3

V2 confidently (LOL) tables 88.
V1 looks at me and smiles and says "I never get there" and mucks face down.

It wasn't my place to say anything (such as, "dude you just folded the best hand") so I just smiled and said yea man that sucks. I don't know if he was bored or what but he seriously had played like 3 hands in the past hour before this one, V2 shoving into him on flop was lol bad.

So much about the hand history was perfect for this thread

Clearly, the BTN's initial flat is horrible, but once it comes back around to him, he's pretty much priced-in to call your raise, unless you're lrr only with AK+, QQ+

L/rr is Kk+ 99.999% of the time...

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Obviously not

I never said 100%

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I had a super solid image and was trying to rep KK+, and I found his " I missed " statement humorous.

So this play our hero made only happens 1 out of 100,000 times. Interesting.

Hero knows the common perception that the ol' l/rr is weighted heavily towards a monster usually, and used it to his advantage. At 1/2 you don't see many other hands show up here, especially UTG. Of course 1 in 100000 isn't accurate mathematically, but I don't see a lot of non AA,KK hands shown down after a limp reraise at these stakes.

I limp-reraised a blind shove to 19 (1/2) and two callers with ATo, purely for value, last night.

I don't think 99.99 is accurate but atleast 90%.

1/2NL 7-handed shortly after last call.

UTG (800) opens to 7, Hero (covers) 3bet HJ to 23 w/ AK, SB (120) calls, UTG calls.

Flop (66) 742

SB bets 30, UTG folds, Hero shoves for SB's last ~70, SB calls. SB shows KJ.

Small pre flop mistakes lead to Big post flop disasters

Here's a hand I played yesterday against a fish that was really in a generous mood:

Hero has a winning, aggressive image so far at this table. Villain in this hand has only been at the table for a few orbits and has played pretty tight. He bought in for $200 and has only played two hands in which he called a PFR and then folded to a flop bet. He's sitting on about $175 to start this hand and I cover.

Hero straddles the button $5- two limpers to Villain who also chooses to limp (I'm highlighting his decision here because it is where everything went wrong for him. I look down at 95o and check my option.

Flop comes 9 A 5 rainbow.

Checks to Villain to leads $10 into the $20 pot. I raise to $35 and it folds back to V who snap calls. This is too easy

The turn is a 10 completing the rainbow and V now checks to me. So with the pot closing in on $100 and V having about $135 left in this stack I decide to forgo delaying the inevitable and just jam it all in now. After a few seconds of fake tanking ( I often wonder what goes through their fishy little minds), he calls and tables AKo. River bricks and I scoop his entire stack.

I don't think I need to openly analyze how horribly he screwed this hand up on every single street, but just figured I'd share a typical donkalicious hand with everyone.

Isn't villain going to lose it all there, regardless? Unless of course he raises preflop instead of being a fish.

The point isn't exactly that he should raise preflop to fold out trash. Limping AK and then stacking off for another 35bb (bb = straddle here) with top pair is extremely exploitable -- obviously you're laying great implied odds for set miners but it probably makes it correct to limp suited connectors too. AK played that way is just going to win a small pot when everyone else's trash misses or lose a big one when his TP runs into something better.

By raising preflop he gets value from worse hands and also makes it less of a mistake to stack off postflop -- if he were to raise to $25 it'd then be incorrect to call with any sort of speculative hand.

So yes it's true that if Hero is a bad fish and calls a raise with 95o that villain is still going broke this time, but villain is making a ton of money the times "Hero" calls and misses, or continues with second pair when villain has top pair.

pure level 1 thinking. "Can I call with top pair top kicker?" Not "what does villain have", not "what would he take this line with", not even "i guess he could have anything since he checked his option".

Sometimes they think "is he bluffing??" but not for any good reason, just because bluffing is a thing people do sometimes and they're scared they will look dumb for folding a winner.

I consider this appropriate to post here because a lot of our decisions have to do with hitting hard and then trying to get max value from lesser players.

1/2 NL, late night/early morning whatever you want to call it. Table is playing 7-handed and playing super passive.

Hero ($525): Caucasian early 30's but looks early-mid 20's. I have been pretty much the only aggressor at the table, but would still be considered TAG in any competent villain's eyes.

Villain (~$1100): 40's East Indian fellow. Typical passive donk. Was gifted his stack earlier when a tight player spazzed 2nd nuts into the obvious nuts on an AJ47T no flush board in an $8 pot on the river. Limps almost every hand but plays pretty straight forward postflop. Aggressive if he has it but a bit of a call station post. Seen him call down some marginal holdings like 2nd pair but nothing terribly weak.

Preflop: 3 players including villain limp, SB completes, hero checks T6o.

Flop ($10): 6 6 7

SB checks and hero leads $6 because he thought being cute was better than betting properly. Only villain calls.

Turn ($22): 6

Hero leads $15 quickly, villain calls rather quickly.

River ($52): J

Hero takes about 20 seconds this time and leads $40. Villain takes roughly the same time and says "I have to call you" and puts in the $40 to call.

My first thought after the hand was I left money on the table. I could've bet more on every street for sure but that's not my real question. Against typical LLSNL opponents is this bet/bet/bet line the best or when we ascertain our villain has a full house here 100% of the time is it wise to attempt a c/r here on the river or should we just continue to bet in case we encounter a true passive who checks back a hand like 7x here? Any other more profitable line or is it just too villain dependent? Thoughts?

no way I'm checkraising the river. I prefer a shove here, even if it's a comical overbet. His response to your river bet is the reason why.