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Wild night - finished up $1200 in 1/3. Didn't get paid big on a couple of big hands, but picked up a lots of decent pots. Folded QQ pre (against AA) and folded AK on a K-10-2r flop when I got hit with a big c/r - fish had caught 2 pair with K2. Short stack called him and hit a river A for a straight.

Won a big pot with J10dd when I flopped top two on a Js-10s-4d. Supposedly my raise on the flop and then the call by another villain made a second villain fold 44 (I think he may have - he tanked and folded, we were deep, and he saw me show up with a lot of monsters - he was scared money and up big as well).

06-03-2012 , 03:47 AM

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DeadMoneyWalking

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSkip

Wild night - finished up $1200 in 1/3. Didn't get paid big on a couple of big hands, but picked up a lots of decent pots. Folded QQ pre (against AA) and folded AK on a K-10-2r flop when I got hit with a big c/r - fish had caught 2 pair with K2. Short stack called him and hit a river A for a straight.

Won a big pot with J10dd when I flopped top two on a Js-10s-4d. Supposedly my raise on the flop and then the call by another villain made a second villain fold 44 (I think he may have - he tanked and folded, we were deep, and he saw me show up with a lot of monsters - he was scared money and up big as well).

Was this by any chance in Vegas?

06-03-2012 , 03:57 AM

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DeadMoneyWalking

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I finished down a "Green Flash Brewing Co. Double Stout Black Ale" 8.8% EtOH, and hope this doesn't turn into a bbv4L by tomorrow morning.

06-03-2012 , 04:19 AM

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BigSkip

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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking

Was this by any chance in Vegas?

No, underground game here in the south. Still stunned he folded there, and based on the expression on his face when I tabled 2 pair on the river I believe he did fold a set. He flatted an over bet on the flop from a splashy, tilty villain, which did make alarm bells go off a bit. I ended up raising for value against the villain who over bet the flop (he sees me as capable of raising draws there, and won't fold TPGK or TPTK to me ), but was actually raise/folding against villain 2. If he ships I fold, if he calls I slow way, way down.

06-03-2012 , 05:30 AM

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SABR42

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I'm getting pretty ****ing tired of running the second nuts into the nuts, over and over again.

It's ****ing live poker, I'm not supposed to get uber-coolered once every two sessions or some ******ed ****.

06-03-2012 , 06:10 AM

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DK Barrel

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During my last session, a player was heads-up facing an all-in on the turn and debating out loud whether or not to call. He then said "Well, I've got ace-queen..." Dealer cut him off there with a stern "no angling" and he shut up.

Seems most rooms would tolerate that sort of talk, what do you think? Personally, I don't consider that an angle but I'm fine with that talk being banned at the table. Especially if it cuts down on other angling (fwiw I've never actually seen an angle-shooting incident at that room, that was the closest).

06-03-2012 , 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DK Barrel

Most rooms have figured out that table oratory is a necessary evil.

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I'm getting pretty ****ing tired of running the second nuts into the nuts, over and over again.

It's ****ing live poker, I'm supposed to get uber-coolered twice every session .

Now say this before each call.

06-03-2012 , 08:31 AM

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dhcg86

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because you're still likely not rolled for it and its stupid to play a harder skilled game with an effectively smaller bankroll.

06-03-2012 , 09:58 AM

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1ns71nct

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Originally Posted by dhcg86

because you're still likely not rolled for it and its stupid to play a harder skilled game with an effectively smaller bankroll.

Definateley play 2/5 fulltime if you shot take, drop down at your set limit no matter what. Mine is 7k drop down but start at 10k, one being I want multiple reloads for certain variance reasons.

06-03-2012 , 09:58 AM

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1ns71nct

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Originally Posted by dhcg86

because you're still likely not rolled for it and its stupid to play a harder skilled game with an effectively smaller bankroll.

2/5 is not that tough...lol

Plus more than likely I will be grinding 1/2 during the week for a few weeks and play 2/5 on the weekends

If I can play 2/5 and achieve a 30+ win-rate it will be worth it, compared to 20ish 1/2, I am aiming for 40hr at 2/5 but will obviously be a curve for the game.

06-03-2012 , 10:52 AM

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stampler

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Originally Posted by 1ns71nct

2/5 is not that tough...lol
.

ya, what's tuff is playing against people who have no money (1/2)

ppl don't select stakes live, like they do online, according to their skill set,
they select stakes according to how much $ they have to burn through.

funny story from the aria the other day:
a dude in the 5/10 game dumped a gatorade on another dudes head.
everyone thought a fight was about to break out, and all hell break loose.
turns out it was for a $1000 prop bet.

Last edited by stampler; 06-03-2012 at 10:59 AM.

06-03-2012 , 11:04 AM

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masaraksh

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Had to make a fold, annoyed....

PRE (30):
3 limpers before me in LP, I pop AQo to 100, limpers call

FLOP (430): AJTr
chked to me, I bet 260, UTG limper calls and loose-passive whale calls

TURN (1210): 3o
chked to me, I bet 640, UTG limper calls, whale folds.

RIVER (2490): To
Guy leads for 1.3k............

06-03-2012 , 11:19 AM

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1ns71nct

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Originally Posted by masaraksh

What is utg limping with, I would almost check back turn and call mpst river bricks.

06-03-2012 , 11:19 AM

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LolPony

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Originally Posted by masaraksh

Lol gross.

So this casino I go to sometimes for tournaments, has a $50 splash pot every hour after 7pm on Sundays.
You can buy in for $50. Last time I played I had 100bb and shipped 3 out of 4 times(I had decent hands), got one call and the rest folds and picked up the free $150. What do you guys think about just buying in for 25bb and shipping atc? The table is always super passive filled with old people.

06-03-2012 , 11:22 AM

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1ns71nct

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Like if we want to accurately give advice on the hand, we need exact info on UTG. This is 5/10?

06-03-2012 , 11:33 AM

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masaraksh

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10/20

not betting the turn doesn't punish their loose flop peels.

06-03-2012 , 11:38 AM

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1ns71nct

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Quote:

Originally Posted by masaraksh

10/20

not betting the turn doesn't punish their loose flop peels.

So UTG is loose?

If so, nothing wrong with turn and river seems like a clear fold

06-03-2012 , 11:39 AM

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dhcg86

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wp hand imo

maybe more on flop or turn but I don't think its that big of a deal

when he leads river it makes me think you were beat the whole way, but that's irrelevant

06-03-2012 , 11:47 AM

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DevinLake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by masaraksh

10/20

not betting the turn doesn't punish their loose flop peels.

depending on their calling range, the above reason for betting could be vastly trumped by EV.

edit: I'm not saying don't bet the turn, I'm saying your reason is not the dominate consideration.

06-03-2012 , 11:48 AM

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masaraksh

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^ Yeah, I feel like its JT exactly.... and much less likely KQ. Never AJ/AQ/AK either, IMO.

If I had KQ on the river, it would kinda suck, I'd probably call in game...

06-03-2012 , 11:52 AM

#17221

1ns71nct

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I want to play 2/2 with an ante instead of 2/5, nobody wants to run itn

06-03-2012 , 11:52 AM

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dhcg86

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Originally Posted by DevinLake

depending on their calling range, the above reason for betting could be vastly trumped by EV.

edit: I'm not saying don't bet the turn, I'm saying your reason is not the dominate consideration.

what do you think has higher ev, betting or checking turn

06-03-2012 , 11:55 AM

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I don't know...depends too much on his image, history, and villain tendencies.

Unknown, betting turn is probably just the easier way to play the hand, so it's probably a good default. But, I don't think masaraksh is with out that info here.

06-03-2012 , 11:58 AM

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dhcg86

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you're overthinking it imo

betting turn is mandatory and seriously, its not even close.

and his comment regarding "punishing them" is the same as saying he's betting turn for value lol