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Originally Posted by monkeymaps
nice call here, what reads do yo use to make this call? not criticizing in any way just find my games are pretty passive (in general) and I am not going to see players emptying the clip w/0 an overpair/set here, OTOH I guess if you know villain is not capable of value betting QQ+ in this fashion it makes it an easier call?
I had a bit of a timing tell on the river. I believe villain would have taken longer to ship with QQ+ (or possibly c/c). Also, I have two blockers to straights so I'm not very worried about those.
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Originally Posted by Dragon-Ash
We're not c-betting this flop...why, exactly?
Pretty horrible flop to c-bet. It smashes their limp-calling ranges, there's already a possible straight out there (which makes for a lot of pair + gutshots that people get sticky with). And you never want to hit top pair on the turn only to be drawing dead to 86 and lose more money. Most of the hands they fold there are hands I'm already beating, like AT or KJ. Against those hands I'd rather bluff-catch, or let them catch an inferior top pair. Something iLCD doesn't understand.
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
This and doesn't connect with hero's range
With my button raising range there I could have many hands that connected with that flop. But that's not the important factor here.
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Originally Posted by Dragon-Ash
Because we have the nut non-pair hand, draws will call one street and often fold to a double-barrel, how much heat is a 9x hand going to take when over-card hits - I mean, if we can talk ourselves in to making hero calls on the river getting barely 2:1 with ace-high, why aren't we c-betting and just taking the pot down?
You're vastly overestimating our fold equity here.
Also, I already mentioned it earlier, but with AK, the hands you fold out are the hands you'd rather keep in, like worse aces/kings. I'd much rather bet Q
T
than A
K
here, specifically because if we hit top pair on the turn with AK, we're always good against other 1-pair, but we don't want the pot to be too big. Like I said earlier, the worst thing that can happen is we turn an A/K and someone already has 86 or a set. With Q
T
you can immediately fold out better hands (making bluffing more attractive), and can turn nut straight possibilities. Having only a backdoor flush here isn't enough.
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Originally Posted by Dragon-Ash
I don't know, maybe SABR had a specific read on this villain that induced his call, but are we really good in this spot more than 30% of the time with ace high? I mean, it's a great call - my biggest call was with jack high and I was good, but it was against a specific opponent I had a history with - but I seriously can't understand why we wouldn't just c-bet here. I'd c-bet into two people all day on this board in position, and take the pot down on the flop or turn the majority of the time. Bet/fold until someone tells us we're beat.
I had a read on the river yes. I've owned this particular villain many, many times.
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now its hard to say exactly why SABR called because I don't know the players in the hand and but he is likely just a hero call monkey
I have uncanny instincts on my hero calls. I think it's the way I can re-construct every detail about a hand, remember past hands, and look for little tells during a hand. It's not magic, but these are all things that add up and lead me to the right decision.