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05-25-2011 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by csk30
^ Agreed, that's pretty cool.

Also, MK7749, what a pain you are.
Really?
05-25-2011 , 11:41 AM
We've resolved this between ourselves so it's cool. Just my misunderstanding of MK7749's post about the BBJ.
05-25-2011 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
We've resolved this between ourselves so it's cool. Just my misunderstanding of MK7749's post about the BBJ.
I acted immature with the name calling also could have phrased the question better.
05-25-2011 , 12:56 PM
Fair enough. It's not my place to comment is the truth, so please don't anyone take offence.

Hope everyone is playing well, running well. Played a bit of Ł1/3 and Ł2/5 last few sessions, games have been good here.

A few sessions ago I managed to min 3b the turn with quads to induce a shove from air, 300BBs deep. Good times.
05-25-2011 , 02:46 PM
I see a lot of HH's regarding 1 pair type hands. Harrington said it best, small hand small pot, big hand big pot, pairs are small hands postflop, regardless of what pair it is.
05-25-2011 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
I see a lot of HH's regarding 1 pair type hands. Harrington said it best, small hand small pot, big hand big pot, pairs are small hands postflop, regardless of what pair it is.
In a vacuum that's good advice, particularly against good opponents. The secret is, against certain players, TPTK or an overpair is a big hand.
05-25-2011 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
In a vacuum that's good advice, particularly against good opponents. The secret is, against certain players, TPTK or an overpair is a big hand.
Yeah on the flop, but not by the river. A_T said it best you want to be TAG on the flop but by the river you want to be LAG. The water gets murky by the turn and river.
05-25-2011 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Yeah on the flop, but not by the river. A_T said it best you want to be TAG on the flop but by the river you want to be LAG. The water gets murky by the turn and river.
doesn't the other way around work better with the advice you are espousing? LAg on th flop, TAg by the river?
05-25-2011 , 03:04 PM
Also, if you are not going for 3 streets of value with TPTK against a lot of low stakes players (40-50% at least), you're leaving money on the table.
05-25-2011 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
doesn't the other way around work better with the advice you are espousing? LAg on th flop, TAg by the river?
Well its not something I made up. I learned the basis of holdem from HOC vol 1 and 2. Turn and river play in the LAG book.

That's why I like to reraise OTT/CR, Moves on the river overbets and reraises(I hardly c/r river).

TAG is based on Pairs and TPTK or TPGK hands. The only balance harrington implements is suited connectors. Which I agree but here at LLSNL they say balance is not needed.

After all of this I have typed, I think I'm kind of confused on why you say Lag on the flop?

Good hands on the flop are rare. Pairs, 2pair and sets are TAG hands. LAG hands wierd trips, straights and flushes. Those rarely happen on the flop and mostly by the turn.
05-25-2011 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
Also, if you are not going for 3 streets of value with TPTK against a lot of low stakes players (40-50% at least), you're leaving money on the table.
It depends on what type of TPTK, is it a raise pot, a limp pot. If its something like AK or AQ or KQ yeah then I bomb away. Its all about hand ranges and what I put them on. What type of hands they call with how active they are.

I play TAG/LAG, just try to play poker and not get attached to titles. Just like I don't call myself a live player. Even though I'm 75% live player. I'm just a poker player.

It just depends but I was told 60% is good for TPTK all the way to the river. According to v's database.
05-25-2011 , 03:55 PM
Mpethy: What rating would give the guy after you went home and looked him up on the internet?
05-25-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
In a vacuum that's good advice, particularly against good opponents. The secret is, against certain players, TPTK or an overpair is a big hand.
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Yeah on the flop, but not by the river. A_T said it best you want to be TAG on the flop but by the river you want to be LAG. The water gets murky by the turn and river.
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
Also, if you are not going for 3 streets of value with TPTK against a lot of low stakes players (40-50% at least), you're leaving money on the table.
Yeah, that's my point. Big hand/small hand advice is helpful for those who need to learn the concept so they don't get caught always stacking off against sets at SPR=13 and always slowplaying and winning half-stacks when they have sets of their own. Like everything it's highly opponent-dependent. If I'm ahead of my opponent's "call 3 streets" range with TPTK, then it's a big hand, on the river as well as on the flop.
05-25-2011 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Yeah, that's my point. Big hand/small hand advice is helpful for those who need to learn the concept so they don't get caught always stacking off against sets at SPR=13 and always slowplaying and winning half-stacks when they have sets of their own. Like everything it's highly opponent-dependent. If I'm ahead of my opponent's "call 3 streets" range with TPTK, then it's a big hand, on the river as well as on the flop.
You have to realize we game plan for the best players. Like harrington said in a "weak game". Open your raising range and raise hands that make TPTK, TPGK. We mainly play in weak games so no need to get fancy. I was just talking in general. You never know when your going to run into a tough table with well rolled players. Great opportunity for anyone.
05-25-2011 , 05:48 PM
1/3 at the RIO just heard one of the mods just got coolered. Damn wsop is bout to start.

I wonder if attendance will be up/down?
05-25-2011 , 09:31 PM
regarding the iLCD announcement: one thing i will say is that i appreciate the mods taking the time to give the matter of iLCD the consideration that it required. (specifically to really assess how significant his impact on this forum had become)

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05-25-2011 , 09:38 PM
^^^ ban IMO
05-25-2011 , 09:43 PM
at least i don't have a picture of a permanent marker as an avatar

05-25-2011 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 8o8
at least i don't have a picture of a permanent marker as an avatar

*permament marker
05-25-2011 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by quesuerte
^^^ ban IMO
oh i see what happened here... i edited my post while you wrote this. it was funnier before mwaha

that's what happens to posters with permanent marker avatars
05-25-2011 , 09:55 PM
The sad thing is I genuinely don't know how it got there. I was trying to put up a proper picture (can't remember what) and lo and behold, there it was. I've never even been sure that's what it was TBH, although marker was my best guess. I suck at technology.

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05-25-2011 , 09:58 PM
im kinda sad hes gone. from a posting standpoint besides the blowup with mpethy he seemed to really calm down and his strat was getting better. He also seemed to be really taking this seriously, seemed like he had a few winning regs helping him (not sure but deduced it from some of his comments). but oh well, im sure mods had valid reasons for doing it.

GL to him, if i ever go to commerce and see a young black guy with a fitted cap buying in for 60BBs and playing pot control with 1 pair hands ill give him a whats up bro.

sidenote- the big question is whats doug funnie gonna do now?
05-25-2011 , 09:59 PM
no waaaay.

for all this time i thought it was some surreal, symbolic thing
05-25-2011 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 8o8
regarding the iLCD announcement: one thing i will say is that i appreciate the mods taking the time to give the matter of iLCD the consideration that it required. (specifically to really assess how significant his impact on this forum had become)
I never saw any of the posts he made that were considered temp-ban-worthy, but I've seen plenty that were insulting to him, so I guess his were worse. Or is it that he crossed into name-calling while others have learned the art of baiting without crossing that line?

I don't know, I think it's pretty obvious the guy wasn't a troll... he just didn't have good Internet Social Skills. Then again, how well-adjusted are the people calling for him to be banned because they lack the discipline to ignore him? I think it's unfortunate that a permanent ban is the only solution.
05-25-2011 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceKicker
Then again, how well-adjusted are the people calling for him to be banned because they lack the discipline to ignore him? I think it's unfortunate that a permanent ban is the only solution.
i resent this somewhat. this is exactly the problem: he was so prolific in posting, and his posts so universally of a ****-disturbing nature, that it was impossible to ignore him even if you had him on ignore, because there would be 12 outraged posts in a row responding to his posts.

that was the issue. discussions were actually breaking down on a regular basis because of this one poster. and i expect this was the reason he was banned.

      
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