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10-23-2012 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
Maybe I am just jaded but I think the winrates here are during rungood or w/e. I had like a 200 hour stretch where I was ~100 $/hr but I have had a huge break even streak. However, it could be a statistical outlier or just me being a ****ty player. I put in my current winrate/standard deviation into the variance calculator and over 100 runs like it only occurs 5% of the time over 100k hands which leads me to believe that my current stats are either inaccurate or that I am running really really badly.

Obviously over the past 200 hours I have some "bad plays" but I have had weird **** happen like last session this passive player does this:

nit limps UTG few other limpers, I complete SB with 87cc, passive player raises BB to 25 with like 350 behind, nit calls, I call.

Flop is 65T pot is 100
I check, passive player bets 45, nit calls, I call

Turn is the 9
I check, passive player checks, nit checks

River is the K
I bet 65 or 85, passive player like immediately ships, the nit folds

I wanted to bet/fold the river to try to get value from AK or some weird 2 pair and I mean the passive player is repping solely AQ and I should have called since statistically he is probably over playing KK/AK the ~5% of the time he needs to but I folded like a donkey and he flips over AK.

My biggest leak right now is playing OOP vs lags, I need to stop bet/calling and start check/calling.
well for sure its human nature to be more likely to share your hourly with the world itt when youre proud of it
10-23-2012 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
why did u check the turned nuts
+2 Always betting there.
10-23-2012 , 08:10 PM
To ensure you pass the FE you need to study about 1 hour every day for a month

just an FYI
10-23-2012 , 08:21 PM
im sitting larry fitzgerald this week i dont even give a ****
10-23-2012 , 08:28 PM
Not expecting passive player to bet 2x unless he is at the higher end of range.

I would either lead turn or check raise flop to freeze turn vs a passive and nit.
10-23-2012 , 08:46 PM
Well he raised out of the BB which is like AK, QQ+ and he cbet the flop so I figured it was QQ+

Obviously I wish I would have bet the turn and I generally do but I checked instead of betting. I don't think it is like "omfg leak!" just that I did something sub optimal
10-23-2012 , 09:00 PM
Highlights:

2 limps to me AK otb I raise to 45 lagtard calls. Flop AK8 Vil checks, I check back knowing I never get more than 2 streets of value and I want to keep air weak aces in his range. Turn 3 he bets 90 I call again no value in raising. River 7 He bets 320. Snap snap doesn't show and mucks.

After about 2 hours 2.5k eff stacks
Tag that I've played with in lower games straddles. Folds to me in CO I raise 75 to 45 folds to TAG he re-raises 150. I feel like his 3b from straddle is 99+ AJo+ ATs+ I figure he folds everything but QQ+ and maybe AK I 4b to 400, he tank calls. AK QQ or KK imo. Flop 73Q he checks I bet 580 he folds, so either AK or folded KK putting me on QQ or AA. Or he was spazzing pre who knows.

Old man raises in EP to 40 gets 4 callers I call in LP ironically enough with 75.
Flop 864 Old man bets 200 (1k eff) one caller I ship old man calls other guy folds. Turn Q River 2 Old man tables QQ like it's the nuts. Ship it.

Nothing else very cool, Had to get Aces in on a 98J against a shorty, didn't feel too good about it but he had TT and missed.
10-23-2012 , 09:02 PM
ewww on the first three hands.

specifically, checking back and calling ak guarantees you'll only get 2 streets.
10-23-2012 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
ewww on the first three hands.

specifically, checking back and calling ak guarantees you'll only get 2 streets.
He never stacks off- or call 3 streets with Ax unless he hits 2p. If he hits 2p we're getting it in anyway. Sucks when he has QJ or something dumb and binks it ott, but still rather get 2 streets.
10-23-2012 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LolPony
He never stacks off- or call 3 streets with Ax unless he hits 2p. If he hits 2p we're getting it in anyway. Sucks when he has QJ or something dumb and binks it ott, but still rather get 2 streets.
AND IF HE HIT TWO PAIR...

wait.

you called.

what's the point of trapping if you aren't going to spring it?
10-23-2012 , 09:18 PM
Optimal line v silly lags.

Cbet, check, bet/raise.
10-23-2012 , 09:22 PM
What ike said

Fps in shot taking with 75ss?
10-23-2012 , 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
Optimal line v silly lags.

Cbet, check, bet/raise.
Eh, yeah I agree.
How often is he going to fold a AKx board though after I raise pre. Quite a lot. Guess I river raise.
10-23-2012 , 09:32 PM
You a stack a donk fan ike?
10-23-2012 , 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 11t
You a stack a donk fan ike?
Forever and always. (but not really).

A few weeks ago I played a ******ed lag. Raised to 40 with AK out of the small blind. Check called three streets on an ace high board. I had very good reasons for doing so tho.
10-23-2012 , 09:49 PM
If you think hes going to bluff part of the EV should be seeing his hand at the end
10-23-2012 , 09:49 PM
Whats stack a donk
10-23-2012 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
If you think hes going to bluff part of the EV should be seeing his hand at the end
lol not exactly a mystery dude.
10-23-2012 , 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dhcg86
Whats stack a donk
used when oop against a dumbass.

Cbet, call
check, bet, raise
10-23-2012 , 09:59 PM
I check the turn in the turned straight hand almost all the time given it was a bb raise and bet into a field...

Anyway today is a state of origin tournament in Melbourne every state sends in a team of 8 in a shootout style tournament with points etc...

Im over here for the series but wasnt going to nominate interest but then someone offered me a 100 bet that i would get picked if i nominated. i insta accepted filled in a form and didnt get picked... easiest 100 il ever make...

Gl to our team (WA) but we are going to get slaughtered...
10-23-2012 , 10:04 PM
Any of you guys use pokertracking.com to record your results? The site isn't working for me; it says, "an error occurred while processing request. Please contact website administrator". Anybody else having this problem or know how long the site has been down? That's the only place I tracked my results, fml if I can't recover them.
10-23-2012 , 10:27 PM
Says that that domain is for sale. You're SOL pointguard lol.
10-23-2012 , 10:36 PM
1/2 four to open

Raise AKdd over 3 limpers to 24
CO calls

We see flop $175 behind eff

K45r

I cbet 25 ini 60, he calls

Turn makes K456r

How much do we bet?
10-23-2012 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Variance is lower, win rates are higher, which means BE should be much less frequent.
yes, that's true. but 6k hands is still really small...but I guess with 20bb/100 win rates instead of 3bb/100, it's probably more like 40k hands...?!
10-23-2012 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
lol not exactly a mystery dude.
I like to establish the most accurate ranges possible

      
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