which is what we are doing since, as ike said, how many times have you seen this move and it not be a flush? 0 for me and sounds like 0 for him too

Really puzzling hand last night - interested in whether you call or fold.

I'm a 40yr old white man, have stack of 1.1k at 3/3 table.

Villain has just arrived. Skinny, geeky, pale face, pony tail - about 23. looks like a chemistry student. Has already made a poker theory statement but can't handle his chips. Has two friends watching . Has bought in light for $180 ish.

Villain is UTG and limps. 2 limpers to me on button with J 10 off. I call. Blinds call.

Pot $21.

Flop A J 10 rainbow. Checked to villain who shoves for $180.


9x pot overbet shoves are weighted heavily to the nuts so I think this is an easy fold but really....why would he do this? The best logic I could come up with other than 'I haz ze nutz, I shuvvvv' was that he may have tried to limp re raise with AA but overbet 'to protect' when the pot limped round and he hit his set.

Is anyone calling here?

This was my first thought when looking at the hand. He may have wanted to be fancy with AA to show off for his friends and the flop scared him. I would fold, but not like doing so.

If hes a geeky theory guy, is it possible that he bought in for 60BBs with the intention of using some sort of short stacking, shove strategy?

I call here. The line doesnt make sense, and when the line doesnt make sense, i usually assume the other guy isnt telling the truth.

I dont buy the limp/rr thing then overbet the set idea. So he starts out the hand trying to play the aces "super-tricky" by limping with them, then he hits a set and open/shoves? He's in great shape against an inside straight draw, which is the only likely hand drawing against him and hes like what, 3-1 against the very unlikely OESD from 89 or 9q.... I think most people arent going to panic with a set of aces there.

What makes the decision for me is that he bought in short (rather than got that way from playing).

How many times have you left yourself that much room on the river to get shoved on?

Hopefully 0.

Villain's bluffing range is > 0 due to our small bet sizes on flop and turn. Incredibly deep I have seen bluffs here before.

In for $1200 I'm almost even now. Really frustrating session. My first buyin couldn't really get nothing going. 2nd buyin I get down to $200, I open utg with 44 to $20 get 3bet to 100 I shove get snap called by KQ and I don't hold. 3rd buyin I get it all with A10 on a J98 and a fd and don't get there. Buy in 1 more time and just went on a run. Got AK all in held, hit a set raising 77 otb, then I 3bet Q8 bet flop K72 turn Q check, check, river check, check and I win the pot. I want to leave cuz I feel like a winner. Not calling it a come back just yet.

Losing session today, -450 (streak of 9 winning sessions is over, lol)

Really happy with the week tho, +14.3 since Wednesday.


One hand tilted me:
- I open QJo to 50 and 2 fish call with position on me. V1 and I are 2.2eff and V2 has only 750
- Flop: T83r. I chk, V1 bet 110, V2 call, I C/R 420, V1 fold, V2 tank call
- Turn: 2o... I bet villains remaining 270 and he calls off with K8o.... I brick obv

Old dude was all proud of himself and shyt.


Still like my C/R there. Against better players I might be more likely to barrel that board but with these morons I figured they would call like 2 streets with middle pair and all sorts of draws... Which I didn't want. Also, V1 was a donk who always plays tourneys - so he has no idea of what he's doing. He stabs at the pot a ton when PFR chks (since chips are valuable in tourneys...) but he has no idea how to play deep and has no concept at all for why he's betting.

Apart from that, was card dead for a whole, had some food, several fish busted and the game broke..

Congrats on the streak. At least it didn't break with a -5k session.

Yes, understand the short stacking POV and you may be right....but if he has any sort of ability and has been thinking up a theory to run with, does he really risk 60BB to win 7BB? Wouldn't he at least check shove to make a little more?

(as an aside, I have a friend who plays full time who open shoves AA in every position, every time he has them. He believes he makes more this way).

Slight hickory taste, crispy crust, jalepenos marinated into the entire pizza, cheese golden crisp. The burnt end ham pieces taste great also!

Oh and the bacon...... O M Gee

^ wow.

Well, thats kind of the thing. Betting 60BB to win 7BB doesnt make sense with any hand in this position. He could be playing a set of aces nonsensically, he could be playing AK nonsensically, he could be playing 46 suited nonsensically, he could be playing the flopped nut straight nonsensically. We really can't tell what he has because his line doesn't compute for any hand. That being the case, its hard to rule things out.

I don't have any problem with folding here and waiting to see a little more how he plays, but I really dont feel like we can narrow his range, just based on the small amount of info we have, enough for us to be behind it.

When the bet is so much larger than the pot, odds dont really come into play. The question becomes "am i ahead of his range right now". My feeling is that we are.

good lawd

pizza itt

please tell the backstory to that pizza.

So yesterday I am thinking to myself I want to smoke a pizza. I go online and read stories of pizza smoking. I make a plan to go to the store and price ingredients. I'm simple on my ingredients. Cheese and sauce LDO, ham, jalepenos and bacon. I was going to use Boboli (sp) for the crust. Go to the store and price it all and instead decide to go to papa murphys because it would be cheaper. I would miss out on the pizza making experienced which I enjoy because I place my ham slices in certain spots (on outer edge to get burned). I also like to use round provolone cheese slices. Im on a budget though. Before I leave the store I get me some A&W root beer fully knowing my mug is frosting in the freezer. Go to Papas and order my pie. Get home and get the ECB ready. Side fire box filled with lump charcoal and a few chunks of hickory wood. Do not want too much hickory, just slight. My ECB doesn't get heated enough when it is windy, and sure enough today is windy. The ECB gets up to 200F and I throw the pie on. A couple of times I rotate the pie to even the heat. About 45 minutes into the crust is crisping and turning brown. At this point I throw it into the oven at 425F for ~5 minutes. While it's finishing my house is filling up with the most amazing smell. Take it out, slice it, take one last whiff and take my first bite... Eyes get huge and my stomach is thanking me. I find a piece of bacon laying on the baking tray and pop it in my mouth. Crispy, hickory taste.... WOW! Ate 5 slices. I have to save a few for my wife who is fasting tonight for some medical stuff tomorrow. Plan on taking some for lunch also. I don't see how I cannot cook my pizza like this for now on.

**** poker man! I was almost up for the session being in for 1200, then this happen.

I raise 66 from ep to $15, get 3 callers, villain in the bb is typical nit.

Flop 62A

I bet $30, he raises to $90 with $200 behind, I put him all in, he snap calls.

Turn 2

River 5

He flips over quad deuces lmao.

I'm done down $400 for the day.

Do you deliver in Arizona?

yes... my last 10 session winning streak (some months back) ended with a 6k losing session (5/10) and then a -7.8 (10/20) session a week or two later.

yeah that pizza looks fantastic.

@Ace that pizza looks awesome. But I know its gone by now. Did you make it on a grill?

On my smoker, not on grill. Slow and low with an offset firebox.

Oh ok, you got all kind of stuff at your house must be nice.

yeah it is obviously a fold looking back on it. When I am playing really well sometimes I level myself into doing stupid stuff.

pizza is looking too good