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04-20-2010 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by THEGOATIAN
yo guys

my co affiliate/friend has dinner and speaks to one of the heads of ipoker a lot, i knew about the implementing of 30bb tables abouth 2-3 weeks before anyone on here but was told not to say anything

anyway point being i can probably get this directley to him

so someone give me a write up of what to forward
did you get my PM? :O
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04-20-2010 , 09:32 AM
Just want to repeat there is a group of players with identical characteristics, playing 5/10 almost exclusively, on Full Tilt as well. All from either Italy or New Zealand AFAIK.

Tojabei: http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...search/tojabei

BelVolo: http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...search/belvolo

jjfgsap: http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...search/jjfgsap

Giongler346: http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...ch/giongler346

jackb0ff: http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...earch/jackb0ff


Clearly this is going on at several sites.
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04-20-2010 , 09:33 AM
i don't really see it as suspicious, they obviously have all learned a similar style.

i think they play pretty badly as a whole, but well enough, or rather weird enough that people can get crushed by them if they play them incorrectly
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04-20-2010 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sh58
i don't really see it as suspicious, they obviously have all learned a similar style.

i think they play pretty badly as a whole, but well enough, or rather weird enough that people can get crushed by them if they play them incorrectly

But where have the learned it? Why are they all from Italy/Australia/New Zealand? How did they just appear at 5/10 without working their way up?

I'm Australian myself and I'm unaware of any training site that teaches this style, or any general links between the Australian/Italian poker communities.

Also, one of their quirks (and I can't remember if this applies to all of them), is that they don't auto-reload. Definitely several of the FTP players and a lot of the iPoker players in this group don't use the auto-reload function.

Is that really part of their learned "style"? I'm not one to jump on conspiracy bandwagons but something doesn't seem right here.
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04-20-2010 , 10:13 AM
Looks pretty botty to me also FWIW.
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04-20-2010 , 10:17 AM
is it possible to turn off the info about leaderboards, tournaments and what not which pops up from time to time and cover the cards and stack sizes for the top player
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04-20-2010 , 10:18 AM
That one hand posted where one of them check/calls every street with 43o while sitting in and out every 2nd hand seems pretty conclusive evidence for that imo.
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04-20-2010 , 10:49 AM
I've played a lot with the FTP players mentioned and I don't think anything that you guys are suggesting is evidence that they are bots. I also agree that while they are pretty terrible, if you don't make proper adjustments they will probably rape you.

I'm not saying they aren't bots but I don't think just the fact that a bunch of players play the same unorthodox style is any evidence of anything improper. The 34o is definitely suspect, but I don't think you need a lot more then one hand. Wouldn't be the first time someone made two awful calls with a gutshot and misclicked the river.
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04-20-2010 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PenelopeCruz
I've played a lot with the FTP players mentioned and I don't think anything that you guys are suggesting is evidence that they are bots. I also agree that while they are pretty terrible, if you don't make proper adjustments they will probably rape you.

I'm not saying they aren't bots but I don't think just the fact that a bunch of players play the same unorthodox style is any evidence of anything improper. The 34o is definitely suspect, but I don't think you need a lot more then one hand. Wouldn't be the first time someone made two awful calls with a gutshot and misclicked the river.

It's not evidence, but it's suspicious enough to at least check it out.
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04-20-2010 , 11:38 AM
yea i mean don't get me wrong, investigate away...
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04-20-2010 , 11:47 AM
Ok, after looking through my database for the last 3 months I have found 55 of these players.
Any others that I have missed?



All of them having 1kNL as their main game, none of them having played any significant number of hands lower than 400NL.

Do you really think these are 55 real players, all jumping straight to 1kNL?
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04-20-2010 , 12:32 PM
Does these players all come from the same skin? Or?
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04-20-2010 , 12:38 PM
Is there a way to make it so auto post only makes you post if you're actually in the blinds? It's got to be one of the most annoying things to sit out, then back in only to post in some random position just b/c auto post is checked. Also really blows that you have to actually pay attention to when the blind comes around after hitting wait for BB.
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04-20-2010 , 12:43 PM
jesus this is pretty sick isnt it

usually in these cases there is never smoke without fire

when its first brought up everyones a little cagey, then more and more information gathers and in the end we all realise its sick and true
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04-20-2010 , 12:44 PM
it would help if any of the names mentioned, actually said no wait thats me, 55 of them
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04-20-2010 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RezPL
Hi,

I'll be posting here as I've moved to iPoker recently.

Also:

+1.
Penelope, have you chosen your soft yet?
I've got the same problem, so if anyone have any suggestions I'll appreciate that.
(I'am playing at will hill so need software to the old ipoker client).

peace
Someone I knew had an extra registration key that he hadn't used... sorry
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04-20-2010 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by THEGOATIAN
it would help if any of the names mentioned, actually said no wait thats me, 55 of them
yeah i think thats the most suspicious thing,surely one of them would be reading this thread,or at least someone reading it would know who they are
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04-20-2010 , 12:57 PM
KillBauer contacted me today after I wrote that he scammed me and tried to say he was innocent (without wanting to show any kind of proof whatsoever). Quite sick that he belives that he can still get money out of me when it's so ****ing obvious that he's a scammer and we both know it.
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04-20-2010 , 01:07 PM
killbaur since you read this plz jump off a bridge thx
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04-20-2010 , 01:11 PM
He obviously has a new account, and tries to scam more people. Please, be aware. I'm making a thread in MSNL and BBV, warning people as we speak.
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04-20-2010 , 01:15 PM
Did you ask him if he owned the iPoker account in his name?
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04-20-2010 , 01:19 PM
no he didnt own the ipoker account

he made numerous accounts on 2+2 using what i guess to be regs names so that he could say to people like me oh ive played you before
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04-20-2010 , 01:22 PM
does fontaine, "stringerb" still post here?
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04-20-2010 , 02:30 PM
What's going on? Only 3 5/10 tables open. Where are you guys?
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04-20-2010 , 02:33 PM
Probably because all the bots left!
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