Cheers to a crappy day today! Anyone else get raped real bad? Gotta love grinding all day just to lose your ass off. Awesome

Hihi

where is t town dave? tulsa?

i thought most everyone was using HM nowadays, what's the advantage to using PT3?

I think you can define custom stats, not sure how useful that is.

Does anyone else feel like their games get sloppy/spewy if you play too much without ever taking a day off? I feel like I need some time off to retool my game a bit.

I think I'm the opposite - I nit up when I get tired. But yeah - definitely take some time off if you feel tired. Actually, spening some time @ 1/2 retooling really helped me - either that or I still suck and I've been on a mega heater. :-)

Speaking of still sucking... Interesting hand from yesterday vs PF.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($406)
UTG+1 ($253.40)
MP1 ($362)
MP2 ($80)
CO ($400)
Button ($837.70)
SB ($433)
Hero (BB) ($1009.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, Q
UTG bets $14, 3 folds, CO calls $14, 2 folds, Hero raises to $58, UTG raises to $116, 1 fold, Hero calls $58

Flop: ($248) J, 7, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $96, Hero raises to $322, UTG calls $194 (All-In)

Turn: ($828) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($828) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $828 | Rake: $3
Main pot: $828 between UTG and Hero, won by Hero

Results:
Hero had A, Q (three of a kind, Queens).
UTG had K, K (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $825

So I flat call his 4bet w AQ. I know this is considered bad, but getting 3 to 1, I don't see how I don't see a flop, since I have 25% equity vs his range. Anyway, on the flop, I figure AK is his most likely hand because of blockers, so I shoved. I think he said something like "Fly, you suck" in the chat. :-( 12 combos of AK vs {6 KK, 3 AA, 3 JJ, 1 QQ, and a "few" combos of air). Thoughts?

Another interesting hand vs PF... MP2 was the table fish

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG ($1236)
UTG+1 ($1365)
MP1 ($1212.75)
MP2 ($1586.20)
CO ($297)
Button ($2182.20)
SB ($600)
Hero (BB) ($1637)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 4
3 folds, MP2 bets $21, CO calls $21, Button calls $21, 1 fold, Hero calls $15

Flop: ($87) 6, 3, 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $87, 1 fold, Button calls $87, Hero calls $87

Turn: ($348) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button bets $246, Hero calls $246, 1 fold

River: ($840) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $462, Hero calls $462

Total pot: $1764 | Rake: $3
Main pot: $1764 between Button and Hero, won by Button

Results:
Button had J, Q (flush, Queen high).
Hero had 3, 4 (flush, eight high).
Outcome: Button won $1761

Cooler or spewy river call? I thought PF may not have had a flush because he flatted a psb on the flop by the fish.

fold pre imo. As played, I'd still fold to the 4b even getting those odds

talking about your first hand btw

I may find a fold in hand 2 on the river. I'm not sure. I'm more interested in the flop though. I don't like your c/c, even this deep. I think I'd go with a bet/3bet flop line.

thought about it, but we were 250BB w the fish, and he just potted into 2 people so I wasn't sure if I had that much fold equity. I wasn't really paying attention from multitabling, so I wasn't sure if this was what he normally does.

The guy couldn't believe I called. :-)

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($68)
Button ($401.80)
SB ($461.90)
BB ($743.10)
UTG ($64)
UTG+1 ($475.30)
Hero (MP1) ($741.40)
MP2 ($681.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6
2 folds, Hero bets $14, 4 folds, BB calls $10

Flop: ($30) 4, 10, 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB calls $18

Turn: ($66) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $36, Hero calls $36

River: ($138) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $138, Hero calls $138

Total pot: $414 | Rake: $3
Main pot: $414 between BB and Hero, won by Hero

Results:
BB had J, 4 (two pair, fours and threes).
Hero had 6, 6 (two pair, sixes and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $411

Sorry to hear all the Dfly monies couldn't hep your cause. Like I always say, tomorrow's a new day! :-)

nh K-mart :-)

Tampa, FL

dfly i don't think the pf flat with AQ is awful, and I was just kidding with the you suck comment. But it isn't good either because of one reason, and I'm sure you can figure it out if you think about it.

as for the second hand I think the river was very interesting because I timed down while counting combos to see how many worse flushes you would have and how many better trying to decide my bet sizing and determining the likelihood that you might check shove on me.

1st hand I'm mucking that 4 bet pre. After that nothing you can do.

2nd hand I'm raising that flop all day. Probably in the 275-300 range Probably get the same result, cause nobody can lay down flush draws, but I'm ready to ship that hand in every time.

Agree with Tuco on the 2 hands.

Edit: 'Cept for PF with AQo. I think any of your options are defensible facing the first raise. Fold to the 4-bet though.

And so "The Golden Age of Min 4betting DFly" with KK+ begins. :-)

Vs two regs I think a raise is std, but I really wasn't sure if the fish would fold. Dunno - maybe PF folds his draw if I raise big enough.

Playing postflop gets super tricky w AQ vs a 4bet range.

I don't think I had enough stack to bluff-shove. Seems a little spewy. Still not sure about a river fold, but I really wasn't sure if you would have flat called a psb with a FD. I guess I was hoping for a weirdly played set or something and thin value on the river (since I checked). Also, you seemed overly aggro after the AQ hand. Anyways, an interesting session.

I don't think you're looking for folds (though they're nice) as much as maximizing your equity, by getting as much money in on the flop as possible. You have at least 50% equity against anything that isn't 2pr+.

Also, lol at getting Pizzle to fold anything. I tried once. I fired 500bb into a 4 straight 4 flush board. He called with K high. Sicko.

LOL. That's seriously impressive - I called someone down w K high yesterday in in smallish pot, but 500bbs is hard core.

Turns out the fish was 40/13 AF1.3, AQ24 - pretty passive but not ridiculous. Maybe he folds to a raise, but apparently PF is a different story I saved myself some money! :-)

I had a 14+ hours session yesterday, so I'm taking the night off. Dave, BigGulps and PF, you'll have to find some other source of funds tonight. :-)

that first hand with AQ is absolutely awful with your table image (i'm not convinced PF is 4betting AK there 100% vs you), and not raising the flop with that 34 is insanity, i think it got said already but your not trying to get folds all that often on the flop its just about maxing your equity