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09-02-2019 , 10:00 PM
Back to 1/2 because it's a week night.

Loose passive straddles BTN ($500 effective) $5, tight passive calls SB ($200 effective), we call SB 7 7,NIT calls UTG ($250 effective), complete unknown +1 raises to $20, BTN calls, SB calls, and we call.

Flop ($65): 9 5 5. We x, PFR $35, BTN folds, we call.

Turn ($135): 8. X-x.

River ($135): 3. X-$50. Do you like heroing this river?
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09-02-2019 , 10:14 PM
1/3. $550 stack.

I open raise KcJs in HJ to $15. CO cold calls. BTN makes it $45 folded to me.

BTN is really passive about $400, I see him open limping AQo so this is super strong range for him.

CO is sitting with $150 and has been playing solid short stack, playing tight shoving lots of flops etc.

Just get away right? Also, I'm entertaining the idea of not even opening this.
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09-02-2019 , 10:24 PM
100% open
100% fold to BTN 3!
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09-03-2019 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
Seat/table selection question

Live 1/3. The approximate vpip/pfr/cold call % from your left around the table goes. 60/10/30, 60/10/30, unknown, 40/15/15, rock, tagfish, 40/20/20, nittag.

I feel like I'm at the worst seat at the best table. No other seats open but I'm out of position all day with the fish and it's killing me. Raising AQ or AK and whiffing flop 3-4 ways first to act

Better not to play or just switch up to nittag so my range crushes them when they cold call IP? I have a seat change button after the rock (if she ever leaves her Jesus seat).
For me seat selection is also very dependent on stack sizes (smaller stacks to left, bigger stacks to right, although not caring as much if bigger stack to my left is face up ABC non-difficult non-bluffy player).

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09-03-2019 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by reaper6788
1/3. $550 stack.

I open raise KcJs in HJ to $15. CO cold calls. BTN makes it $45 folded to me.

BTN is really passive about $400, I see him open limping AQo so this is super strong range for him.

CO is sitting with $150 and has been playing solid short stack, playing tight shoving lots of flops etc.

Just get away right? Also, I'm entertaining the idea of not even opening this.
HJ probably most overrated seat at the table, and I think it's too early to be getting too out-of-line. I'd be fine with open limping in attempting to get into a pot with a speculative hand like this (especially if anyone in the blinds sucks).

Anything other than a muck to this guys 3bet is pretty horrible, imo.

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09-04-2019 , 11:45 PM
1/2, line check please, $160 effective (hero covers.) Villain appears to be playing on the aggressive end of tight passive, is a station and passive player pre, but plays post flop a little more aggressively.

OTTH

Villain straddles UTG for $5, hero raises +2 $20 with K K and only villain calls.

Flop ($43): A 8 5. X-x.

Turn ($43): K. Villain bets $30, hero puts villain all in for $140.
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09-05-2019 , 12:08 AM
Fine. I feel like villain probably doesn't have much so call then GII on river is also doable.
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09-05-2019 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
1/2, line check please, $160 effective (hero covers.) Villain appears to be playing on the aggressive end of tight passive, is a station and passive player pre, but plays post flop a little more aggressively.

OTTH

Villain straddles UTG for $5, hero raises +2 $20 with K K and only villain calls.

Flop ($43): A 8 5. X-x.

Turn ($43): K. Villain bets $30, hero puts villain all in for $140.
ran a quick solve, and pio likes a call almost 100% of the time on the turn.

The reason we are just so wildly ahead of all of villains range.

And even if the river brings a 7 or Q completing straights and flush, solver likes you jamming all rivers when checked to and calling all all-ins, as well as raising all in to any bet.
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09-05-2019 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunamo
ran a quick solve, and pio likes a call almost 100% of the time on the turn.

The reason we are just so wildly ahead of all of villains range.

And even if the river brings a 7 or Q completing straights and flush, solver likes you jamming all rivers when checked to and calling all all-ins, as well as raising all in to any bet.
Thank you for running this through pio. I shoved to avoid a bad river, figure he's calling all A's, denying equity here is probably pretty MUBSy
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09-05-2019 , 05:30 PM
pio has it's place, calling shoves at 1/2 on a flush completing river is not one of them. pio assumes your opponents will play optimally. spoiler: at 1/2 they don't
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09-06-2019 , 07:34 AM
1/3 game just started,battle of the blinds with QJ off 100 blinds effective. Hero is in the BB, long term winning decent reg in the SB. Tight playing style in general, but is loosening up alot in late position and capable of firing some bluffs into what he percieves as capped weak ranges. Folds around and he raises to $12 wich he will do with quite a wide range in this spot. Hero thinks about 3 betting and will do that with lot of hands here, but elects to just call this time. The game just started 15 minutes ago,so havent got a good sense for how villain is playing tonight yet.

Flop comes K-10-K rainbow, and villain bets around half pot $7. Hero decides to put the pressure on a weak wide opening and c -betting range here and raises to $30. Villain looks at heros stack and asks how much i am playing before calling the raise. Turn is a 4.

Villain checks. Hero?
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09-06-2019 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
1/3 game just started,battle of the blinds with QJ off 100 blinds effective. Hero is in the BB, long term winning decent reg in the SB. Tight playing style in general, but is loosening up alot in late position and capable of firing some bluffs into what he percieves as capped weak ranges. Folds around and he raises to $12 wich he will do with quite a wide range in this spot. Hero thinks about 3 betting and will do that with lot of hands here, but elects to just call this time. The game just started 15 minutes ago,so havent got a good sense for how villain is playing tonight yet.

Flop comes K-10-K rainbow, and villain bets around half pot $7. Hero decides to put the pressure on a weak wide opening and c -betting range here and raises to $30. Villain looks at heros stack and asks how much i am playing before calling the raise. Turn is a 4.

Villain checks. Hero?
how is half the pot $7?

i like the raise more if V was LP. SB range is going to be much more high card heavy in live players.

AP i check back turn and i'm done with the hand unless i spike an A/9 or possibly a Q/J. if A/9 happens, it still might be a b/f OTR. Q/J depends on action
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09-06-2019 , 10:07 AM
Ops, sorry about that. SB c-bets $12 and hero raises to $40.
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09-06-2019 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
1/3 game just started,battle of the blinds with QJ off 100 blinds effective. Hero is in the BB, long term winning decent reg in the SB. Tight playing style in general, but is loosening up alot in late position and capable of firing some bluffs into what he percieves as capped weak ranges. Folds around and he raises to $12 wich he will do with quite a wide range in this spot. Hero thinks about 3 betting and will do that with lot of hands here, but elects to just call this time. The game just started 15 minutes ago,so havent got a good sense for how villain is playing tonight yet.

Flop comes K-10-K rainbow, and villain bets around half pot $7. Hero decides to put the pressure on a weak wide opening and c -betting range here and raises to $30. Villain looks at heros stack and asks how much i am playing before calling the raise. Turn is a 4.

Villain checks. Hero?
I'm more a fan of doing things for cheap and simply reaping the benefits of playing poker in position and evaluating cards / action as they progress to attempt to make the best decisions. So I'm cool with preflop and on the flop I'd mostly just float with our OESD and see what happens.

I'm probably taking my free card when he doesn't want to go away on the flop.

(ETA: But I also have 0% blind-on-blind violence experience since I come from a chopping environment, so...)

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09-06-2019 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I'm more a fan of doing things for cheap and simply reaping the benefits of playing poker in position and evaluating cards / action as they progress to attempt to make the best decisions. So I'm cool with preflop and on the flop I'd mostly just float with our OESD and see what happens.

I'm probably taking my free card when he doesn't want to go away on the flop.

(ETA: But I also have 0% blind-on-blind violence experience since I come from a chopping environment, so...)

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Yeah,nothing wrong with flatting as a default. I was choosing this aggro line as an adjustment against a reg i log tons of hour with. I need some kind of balance in my ranges against this sort of reg that i sit with 3 games a week.

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09-06-2019 , 12:59 PM
Gil, are you always raising a K here? If so, raising the OESD is completely fine.

I'm more likely to be flatting a K here, which is why I might have to flat the OESD more too.

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09-06-2019 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Gil, are you always raising a K here? If so, raising the OESD is completely fine.

I'm more likely to be flatting a K here, which is why I might have to flat the OESD more too.

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Not always, but still i think its good to have some aggro played semibluffs against solid regs to mix it up/keep being unpredictable.

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09-06-2019 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
1/3 game just started,battle of the blinds with QJ off 100 blinds effective. Hero is in the BB, long term winning decent reg in the SB. Tight playing style in general, but is loosening up alot in late position and capable of firing some bluffs into what he percieves as capped weak ranges. Folds around and he raises to $12 wich he will do with quite a wide range in this spot. Hero thinks about 3 betting and will do that with lot of hands here, but elects to just call this time. The game just started 15 minutes ago,so havent got a good sense for how villain is playing tonight yet.

Flop comes K-10-K rainbow, and villain bets around half pot $7. Hero decides to put the pressure on a weak wide opening and c -betting range here and raises to $30. Villain looks at heros stack and asks how much i am playing before calling the raise. Turn is a 4.

Villain checks. Hero?
Chiming in since it's contrary to the others -- I barrel this turn after villain eyeballs my stack but doesn't 3-bet the flop. He's very likely to have a draw also, and you're behind AJ/AQ, but they'll very likely fold to a bet here. With like $80 in the middle and $250 left to play, I bet most of the pot here, since it should blow V off of almost everything. Bet like $65-70. Probably shutting down after this unless the river is an A or 9.
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09-07-2019 , 12:13 AM
Line check, please. 2/5, hero is $550 effective with everyone except villain, 9 handed. Ten minutes in, no image.

OTTH

Unknown UTG limps, we $25 LJ Q♣️ Q♠️, fish who plays ATC calls BTN, loose passive calls BB, and unknown calls UTG.

Flop ($102): T♥️ 7♣️ 2♦️. X to us and we bet $50, BTN calls, BB calls, and UTG shoves for $260, hero re shoves.
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09-07-2019 , 12:36 AM
Line is fine
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09-07-2019 , 09:00 AM
Is there anything we could have done differently? 2/5, hero probably has a TAG image to everyone except SB who just got back from dinner break and has never played with hero before. Hero is $1200 effective with SB.


OTTH

Hero opens $20 UTG with 9♦️ 9♣️, whale calls +1, loose passive calls LJ, loose passive calls OTB, SB 3 bets to $105, we call, UTG +1 now decides to shove for $300 and SB calls, we annoyingly fold.
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09-07-2019 , 09:05 AM
Nope, easy fold.
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09-07-2019 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Nope, easy fold.
But you're flatting the initial 3 bet, right?
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09-07-2019 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
But you're flatting the initial 3 bet, right?
Yeah, seems like a decent setmining spot against a likely tight 3 bet range from the SB. Its nothing better to flop a set in position in a bloated pot against QQ+ that is gonna shovel money in post.
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09-07-2019 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
pio has it's place, calling shoves at 1/2 on a flush completing river is not one of them. pio assumes your opponents will play optimally. spoiler: at 1/2 they don't
agree with this.
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