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10-22-2014 , 06:03 AM
330. Leaves a pot-sized turn jam, and it's just under 2:1 to call so he will have a hard time folding TT or diamonds.
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10-23-2014 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aleksei
330. Leaves a pot-sized turn jam, and it's just under 2:1 to call so he will have a hard time folding TT or diamonds.

+1
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10-23-2014 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Playing 2/5 Hero Playing usual TAG game but very active because I'm getting good cards and the table is generally tight preflop and fit/fold post. Would be up way more but lost with QQ vs KK when short stack shoved and had one opponent hit a better two pair on river. $1100

Villain Not exactly tight but not loose either. Passive preflop but like to raise flops, has check/raised or reraised flop way more then can be value. Less aggressive on turn and river. $1000

Fold to hero in LP. I raise to $20 with J9o. Villain calls out of the SB.

Flop is KQT with 2 diamonds. $45 in pot.
Villain checks
Hero bets $30 (probably should have gone $40 on such a wet flop)
Villain raises to $90

Villain could have a set of tens, but not KK/QQ. Any two pair is possible, as are pair+draw hands. Chance of semi-bluffs with diamond draws or combo draws. Small chance of outright bluffs if he thinks I'm c-betting air. Obviously AJ is also possible but his range is way wider then that.

I think this is an obvious reraise. Villain either has air or has a draw to beat me way more then having me beat already. The air hands are done as soon as I call but there are so many possible draws that a lot of turn cards are bad, any diamond and any card 9 or higher depending on which draw he has. I was more challenged with sizing it. What does everything think here?
You have 69% against all two pair and up and down broadway hands (e.g., QJ) that V could have. You have 72% if V could also have AK and AQ. I think plan it to get it in on three streets. So raise to 250. Then 330 ott and 420 otr. If this players is likely to think a bigger bet is bluffy then obv do that. Otherwise, something like 60%ish pot all the way.
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10-24-2014 , 03:16 PM
Just to make sure if I played these baby flushes right.

Hand 1: playing 1/2 - 4 players.


CO: $200.00
Hero (BTN): $450
SB: $182
BB: $100.00

SB was a bit a reg-fish, limping lots. In an earlier hand he check-raised a 245 board 4-way, that I bet, and then barreled off in position, when a 3 hit OTT. He had Q5o.

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 4 2
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($18.00) 3 J K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, BB folds

Turn: ($42.00) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $75, Hero calls $50

River: ($192.00) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $89 (All-in), Hero calls $89


Hand 2:

playing 1/2 - 9 players

UTG+2: $800.00
MP1: $150.00
MP2: $150.00
CO: $300.00
Hero (BTN): $250.00
SB: $200.00
BB: $200.00
UTG: $200.00
UTG+1: $200.00

No read etc. on the player, just transferred to my table.

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with 8 6
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $11, 1 fold, MP2 calls $11, 1 fold, Hero calls $11, 1 fold, BB calls $9

BB acted out of turn and called before I did.

Flop: ($45.00) 9 4 J (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $25, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $25, MP2 folds

Turn: ($95.00) K (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $56, UTG+2 raises to $125, Hero raises to $214 (All-in), UTG+2 calls


In both cases I'm not super happy facing the turn check-raises. But I think I'm still winning this enough to get it in right?
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10-24-2014 , 03:28 PM
fpainec
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10-24-2014 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
fpainec
Thank you, I think so too. But recently I've been losing quite a lot of buy-ins with baby flushes, so I started to become unsure whether it's just variance or I should play them more conservatively.
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10-26-2014 , 12:12 PM
Raise JJ in MP to $13 over 1 limper
$300 eff
2cl
Flop ($35) 9c7x2c
Ck I bet $35
1cl from a loose mostly passive dude.
Turn ($105) Ax
I bet $55
1cl

Rvr ($210)
Jx
$75, jam, or something else?

Thoughts on the turn bet/sizing?
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10-26-2014 , 12:15 PM
180? Praying for 2 pair Ax. There's a lot of straight draws that aren't paying anything
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10-26-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
180? Praying for 2 pair Ax. There's a lot of straight draws that aren't paying anything
You know we only have $195 behind, right?
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10-26-2014 , 12:31 PM
2/5 $600 eff

villain is white middle aged passive that I've ran well vs in recent brief sessions... seems to be skeptical of me in particular w/big pots... made comment before sitting, "you in the mood to take my money again?"

2 limps, one is nit in mp, one passive fish otb, both 500ish eff
villain completes sb
i fistpump check in BB w/89

flop K105

villain lead overbets to $40
hero?

immediate thoughts - not inclined to believe he does this w/2 pair, maybe 555, but this is mostly a flopped flush. so pretty sure calling is best - will continue with hand unless any comment(s) are to contrary
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10-26-2014 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
You know we only have $195 behind, right?
ok, didn't do the math admittedly, so jam is fine. But I would say there might be a difference in our opponents mind to a non-all-in bet vs a jam.
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11-02-2014 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by timmay28
2/5 $600 eff

villain is white middle aged passive that I've ran well vs in recent brief sessions... seems to be skeptical of me in particular w/big pots... made comment before sitting, "you in the mood to take my money again?"

2 limps, one is nit in mp, one passive fish otb, both 500ish eff
villain completes sb
i fistpump check in BB w/89

flop K105

villain lead overbets to $40
hero?

immediate thoughts - not inclined to believe he does this w/2 pair, maybe 555, but this is mostly a flopped flush. so pretty sure calling is best - will continue with hand unless any comment(s) are to contrary
Your experience may be different, but when I see an overbet from an middle-aged/older gentleman on a drawy board, it's usually TP not wanting to get drawn out on. I'd raise here, probably folding to a reraise.
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11-02-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltn'noob
Your experience may be different, but when I see an overbet from an middle-aged/older gentleman on a drawy board, it's usually TP not wanting to get drawn out on. I'd raise here, probably folding to a reraise.
If I think a player has TP on a drawy board and doesn't want to get drawn out on and I actually have him beat, the way to make the most money is probably to get him to believe I am on a draw so that he makes a big turn bet that tries to protect a wider range of made hands.
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11-02-2014 , 12:18 PM
5/T, 2k eff.

2 limps, Hero AA raises to 60 in LP, 2 callers.

Flop (165) 663
x, x, Hero 100, V makes it 250, fold, Hero: flat or raise?

V middle-aged Asian gent, passive pre can get aggro post when he has a hand. Doubt he has many 6s, thinking this is a draw since x/r is so small.
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11-02-2014 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
If I think a player has TP on a drawy board and doesn't want to get drawn out on and I actually have him beat, the way to make the most money is probably to get him to believe I am on a draw so that he makes a big turn bet that tries to protect a wider range of made hands.
Sounds reasonable, but I don't like that we're mw oop. I guess depends on whether you think villain will bet turn or not, seems like a lot of omcs slow down after getting called on the flop on mono board.
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11-02-2014 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltn'noob
5/T, 2k eff.

2 limps, Hero AA raises to 60 in LP, 2 callers.

Flop (165) 663
x, x, Hero 100, V makes it 250, fold, Hero: flat or raise?

V middle-aged Asian gent, passive pre can get aggro post when he has a hand. Doubt he has many 6s, thinking this is a draw since x/r is so small.
This can be an overpair "seeing where he's at". Show him. Raise to 700.
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11-02-2014 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mtagliaf
This can be an overpair "seeing where he's at". Show him. Raise to 700.
+1

Just realized my math is off, pot should be 195 on flop, which means my flop bet may have been too small.
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11-02-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tiltn'noob
Sounds reasonable, but I don't like that we're mw oop. I guess depends on whether you think villain will bet turn or not, seems like a lot of omcs slow down after getting called on the flop on mono board.
Villain is sb in the hand you posted, so not oop. (What is mw? Something to do with the players behind you?)

If villain won't bet turn, you have to consider whether he is capable of calling a river bet because he thinks you might be bluffing a missed flush draw. You don't have to play it that way, but it's option that makes sense against some villain tendencies, even if you are giving a free card to a hand that might contain the J or Q.
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11-02-2014 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
Villain is sb in the hand you posted, so not oop. (What is mw? Something to do with the players behind you?)

If villain won't bet turn, you have to consider whether he is capable of calling a river bet because he thinks you might be bluffing a missed flush draw. You don't have to play it that way, but it's option that makes sense against some villain tendencies, even if you are giving a free card to a hand that might contain the J or Q.
mw = multi-way.

Yep, not OOP to villain but there are still two Vs behind us, right? I don't like to slow-play small flushes mw but maybe I'm losing value.
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11-04-2014 , 10:30 PM
1/3

I have 100bb and button with 66

Villains first hand from broken table but I recognize him as a reg, no experience with him, he might play 2/5. Middle aged Chinaman Short stacked at around 180$

Few limpers to me, I raise on button to 12 with 66. Three calls.

Pot $48, flop 44A suited

3 checks, I cbet $22. Two folds, villain tank raises $50 more, has $75 behind.

Limp/call, check/raise?

I was thinking easy fold, maybe not? How do I fair against flush draws?
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11-04-2014 , 11:29 PM
Since most flush draws have 2 overs you are basically flipping. Fold.
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11-04-2014 , 11:32 PM
1/3. 10 handed. Very limpy table. Some short, some full stacks. Hero has 300. 5 limps. Sb completes. Hero looks down at KQs. Raise or check. If raising, how much?
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11-05-2014 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
1/3. 10 handed. Very limpy table. Some short, some full stacks. Hero has 300. 5 limps. Sb completes. Hero looks down at KQs. Raise or check. If raising, how much?
Must raise imo. I am assuming this is your typical 1/3 table where they are weak/passive and anyone with a hand like AK or AQ would have raised pre.

Raising amount depends on how table has been playing...but imo basically an amount that you feel would only get called by a few players max (not great to create a huge multi way flop oop obviously)...i would say around $22 but again, depends on the type of table.
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11-05-2014 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chief pot
1/3

I have 100bb and button with 66

Villains first hand from broken table but I recognize him as a reg, no experience with him, he might play 2/5. Middle aged Chinaman Short stacked at around 180$

Few limpers to me, I raise on button to 12 with 66. Three calls.

Pot $48, flop 44A suited

3 checks, I cbet $22. Two folds, villain tank raises $50 more, has $75 behind.

Limp/call, check/raise?

I was thinking easy fold, maybe not? How do I fair against flush draws?
fold. I also check flop most of the time also.
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11-05-2014 , 12:30 PM
Thanks. Because someone will most likely check when out of position and they hit this flop? The flush draw?

I would like to see another free card as I can improve but I think it's way more profitable to cbet when checked to and take it down on flop or turn when flush misses or represent the flush when it hits. So I'm pretty much betting any turn.

I'd play the rest of my bottom range from button same way. I'd appreciate any more thoughts or advice as I'm a losing player and a lot of it is pots like this where I give it away 30-40$ at a time trying to play position and cbetting.
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