need a pretty nitty read on the older guy to even think about folding

It's a disaster if you shove and the fish finds a fold.

You need the fish to stack off here maybe 100% of the time to make shoving right.

I think i just fold here and let the old guy show us a set.

To be clear I said older guy, not an old guy. He was probably around 50-55. Not OMC sucking on his oxygen tank.

Well... OK.

Still seems like a bad spot unless the fish is willing to stack off with a 1p hand.

older guy could have AT or JJ and think he's good against fish; it's only a fold if older guy very nitty

Shove

I think this is a valid point. If you give the older guy a range of oesfd you're flipping. Add bottom set to the range and you're a slight dog. With the dead money against the older guy heads up its still a call but I'm not loving it
But since he is the shorter stack you want the fish in the hand and get his stack in.
Difficult to accurately range older guy without more info but I'm going with the notion that the older guy doesn't have any over pairs in his range since he didn't raise or limp reraise pre.

I'm sure you already know my preflop take on this Chippy; I simply don't understand the point of raising if we're not going to narrow the field.

Is Fish in the blinds or a limper? He's much more likely to have TT (and maybe 99) calling a raise than limping in with them.

Anyhoo, pot is huge, SPR is low, and we's got top two pair on a super drawy board. I'm getting it in.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I GII too, but I disagree with your rationale about raising T9.

We should raise here pre if we know our opponents make too many folding mistakes post-flop. Limping to make a hand is only one way to play it. However, if we know the blinds are always defending and the limpers are sticky post, it's better to overlimp here.

We ended up going 6ways to the flop. I'll let Chippy decide whether that was unexpected or not with this raise size after this many limpers.

GcluelessraisingnoobG

I wouldn't raise this T9 to this size over that many limpers (at least 3, probably more). We just never get into situations post where we can outplay opponents IP since we're going to go 4 ways plus all the time. It's just a sweetener.

It's never unexpected to get multiple callers once the first two call.

I hadn't raised in a while if at all at this table and thought, 'Image, OMC, I raise the button.'

One of the points made to me about why we do want to raise preflop here is because we want to be able to get stack in when we flop this good (if we're comfortable we are ahead).

Let's say I didn't raise. I just called the $3.

Now, there's $21 in the pot. There's a $15 bet and a call. I make it $60. Both call.

Turn is a Jd. It checks to me. I bet $150. Flush draw and bottom pair call. Now, A10 folds.

River is a blank. Flush draw check folds.

Lol at thinking you have an "image" at a $1/$3 table. Even if they were paying attention, they're not particularly liable to act on it.

Welp, you definitely have a good game there.

If you give folks a less insane range for the action as given, I think Hero is in pretty poor shape.

Board: Tc 9c 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.255% 20.57% 00.68% 148605 4942.00 { QQ-99, 22, ATs, KTs, QTs+, JTs, T9s, T2s, 92s, 87s, ATo, KTo, QTo+, JTo, T9o, 87o }
Hand 1: 51.697% 41.06% 10.64% 296615 76842.00 { TT-99, 22, QcJc, T9s, 8c7c, T9o }
Hand 2: 27.048% 16.32% 10.73% 117860 77536.00 { Td9d }

$110+120+260 = $490. Hero needs 35% equity to call. I guess since its LLSNL the call is ok since what can happen is what happened.

I still think you need the fish to stack off with his 1p hand, w/o the FD, to make this a good call in the long run.

4 handed. I have a good image. BB has $250, UTG $500, Hero covers

BB MAWG unknown

UTG is loose passive reg., likes to donk small as a blocker with weak hands then fold.

1/2 UTG limps, hero opens T9 $12, BB call, UTG calls.

Flop (32.50) AT2

UTG donks $12, hero makes it $35, BB says ''I have to call'' and calls.

Turn ($139) K

checks around

River J

checked to hero who bets $75?

Good? $100 is better?

Don't like the river bet. Can't see a guy who had to call flop, folding enough. Even alot of his club draws will contain K-J.

Bluffs are never easy to post about. Most good bluffs, use alot of table dynamics. And body language. That doesn't translate well to HH

100 is better. Overall I think it's fine. Betting turn probably good though if your trying to get him to fold Ax. Folding flop is fine also. Folding pre is fine too.

Line Check AKs UTG

Brand New Table. Eff. $500 2/5

Hero opens AKs UTG $20. Unknown btn calls.
($40) K94r. Hero bets $30. Btn calls.
($100) K942r. Hero bets $70. Btn calls.
($240) K9427. Hero bets $125.

Standard for bet sizing?

Looks good to me.

Great job

+1

$1/2

BB is white guy in 20´s. Nothing spectacular. Doubled through half an hour ago in hand where he straddled, picked up aces, made a smallish raise to $25 after 5 limpers, UTG made it $100,he Hollywood shoved for $75. Very next hand he had Kings and won a big pot after shoved infront of him. Other hand, 4 limpers, SB calls, he raises ATo in BB to $12.

Don´t get the feeling he is much of a card player.

OTTH

Hero ($600) opens AA for $20 behind 2 limpers, BB ($600) calls, limpers call

Flop ($74) T32

BB bets $25, folded to hero, hero??

Gotta build a pot here, raise to 60 to target worse FD's and Tx. We are still deep enough to call and draw if he 3-bet small enough.

I prefer to just call in this spot. All too often people will do this with a scared J10-A10. You can really let him value own himself.

Can't go wrong with raising. Calling is fine also. I think I would go 75, 125, 200, trying to get called by JJ and AT. Assuming good run out like 7d 2d.