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AQ off with a 10 dollar button straddle 1/3 AQ off with a 10 dollar button straddle 1/3

08-08-2018 , 04:51 PM
I said sometimes. It really depends on villain and is hard to say. But I will say that in general I will never pay off a third bet. Usually depending on position and flop I will either check flop and, facing a check back bet turn/river or bet flop/turn and check river. Bet flop/check turn/bet river is overrated imo.
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08-09-2018 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by snowman
UTG and UTG +1
AQ off is in my fold range 95% of the time
given certain table conditions and V's I may play it
but up front it hits the muck without a seconds thought

most players aren't aware enough to figure he has a good hand because he hasn't played in a while

If this is a read he has and wants to ISO target then this would fall in the 5%

as played I call river

Yeah i always fold AQ at a table full of fish that will call with literally any suited ace, A8o+, most suited queens and Q8o+. Cause AK exists...
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08-09-2018 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
At a very tough table I can be on board with folding AQo in UTG and UTG+1 and opening more suited hands like 65s that have better board coverage and are better 4 bet bluff candidates. But if our 1/3 game is so bad that we have to do that, we're in the wrong game.
Lol ridiculous. This isnt online poker you don't need board coverage at 1/3 for the simple fact that your live player pool isn't going to remember that one time you showed down 65s after opening UTG. And 4bet bluffing is not a thing at 1/3. Much rather have blockers and equity versus KK-JJ when I 4bet. There are very few villains at 1/3 that polarized 4betting ranges are effective against. Even if there were you need stack depths to be quite high and that rarely happens.

Example: 300 eff versus young tag reg. You open UTG to 15 with 65s. 2 fish call. Tag reg in sb makes it 90. You 4bet all in. He calls with his entire range because he's never 3betting an utg opener unless he has good equity versus QQ+ and AK. Nice job!

You'd have to be like 1500 eff at 1/3 to be 4bet bluffing a polarized range. So almost never.
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08-09-2018 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by noshots00
Lol ridiculous. This isnt online poker you don't need board coverage at 1/3 for the simple fact that your live player pool isn't going to remember that one time you showed down 65s after opening UTG. And 4bet bluffing is not a thing at 1/3. Much rather have blockers and equity versus KK-JJ when I 4bet. There are very few villains at 1/3 that polarized 4betting ranges are effective against. Even if there were you need stack depths to be quite high and that rarely happens.

Example: 300 eff versus young tag reg. You open UTG to 15 with 65s. 2 fish call. Tag reg in sb makes it 90. You 4bet all in. He calls with his entire range because he's never 3betting an utg opener unless he has good equity versus QQ+ and AK. Nice job!

You'd have to be like 1500 eff at 1/3 to be 4bet bluffing a polarized range. So almost never.
You should work on your reading comprehension.
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08-09-2018 , 07:42 AM
Your PFR is egregiously bad. I usually go at least 5x at 1/3, if not more, and you have a guaranteed call, id probably go 60-70.

Flop bet is also bad. Youre going to take it down on the flop here a high percentage and thats just fine. Ax and Kx are gonna call a 40-50 bet, 7x is gonna spaz call sometimes at either price point.

As played yeah youre calling it off.
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