600 NL - Fish being weird
Join Date: Jun 2008
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wat?!? this is such a super easy call. shove is very thin and borderline ******ed for reasons previously mentioned. fold is completely ridiculous considering we don't know this guy very well (few hundred hands, right?). You need a REAL read to fold.
Join Date: Jul 2008
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You wouldnt be in this spot if you hadnt played every street like a scared lamb.
If you'd lead river you coulda been the one calling the $161 instead of raising to that to leave yourself open to be raised. (if you knew a re-raise woulda made you chit yourself)
AA with the A of clubs is my guess....meh
Join Date: Feb 2007
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im pretty sure folding and shoving are both awful so call seems good by default
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Looks like a call. Can't see him checking behind a boat that much on a turn. I think he shows up with the ace high flush a lot here.
What was his timing? If he best on the faster side I would definitely call, as it more likely menas he just slid the slider bar over with his ace high flush before even considering you had a boat. Whereas if he times for over 5 seconds, he probably thinks he is being clever with his boat.
Join Date: Mar 2006
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its at least a call. I would probably call in the moment because there wouldn't be time for a critical analysis of his range, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were a shove.
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Crying call. This villain will show up with the ace of clubs enough to justify it.
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What is the result? Pretty sure you called.
Join Date: Dec 2008
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I always assumed this was the easiest shove ever aginst a fish...
Results please!
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The results are probably pretty obvious: I called and he had a straight flush. I called basically because for me to be beat, he had to check back a nut hand on a turn I was likely never folding and LOL folding boats to fish. However, I think he pretty much never has air or the Ac. Zeph sort of outlined why I think this is probably close to a fold.
Join Date: Jun 2009
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close between a call and a shove, and i coulnt possbly think of ever folding here
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Well... I mean... now this is a fold against this guy. But it wasn't before we saw this hand.
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This is never a shove. I call but don't like it.
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Without reading the results first I did think that he had you beat, but once you c/r this on the river vs fish I just dont think it's logical to fold unless you are 100% sure he's a fish that never ever turns hands into bluffs, never ever thinks that his underfull or nutflush = the nuts, etc etc. You can probably assign %'s and work out the EV for folding vs calling but there are consequences to folding this kind of hand beyond the hand itself.