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10-30-2020 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by coolscreenname1231
Has anyone tried IntuitiveTables? Appartently handles most of the same stuff? I am in zero way affiliated with them
Been using it today. It is decent. I find the tiling works better but other than that it is missing a bunch of features.
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10-30-2020 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trau
You guys are whiney little bitches. It's not a scam and it was great software when it was working. He probably is still working on it. Being little crybabies about it isn't going to solve anything. Just cancel your subscriptions for the time being. He may be going thru some hard things in his life right now.
He posts enough to keep his current subscribers with the hope of new fixes/patches so they dont unsub coming in here and making promises and in the end doesn't come through. He also promised compensation. Which I never got. dunno if anyone else did. I was a subscriber for over 2 years. I definately feel scammed
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10-30-2020 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pokecancer
I am sorry, but I had health issues and I am still catching up with support and bug fixes. I would never tarnish my reputation. It means a lot to me to be viewed as ethical. I tried to resolve it by giving you free time and helping you fix it. I refunded you instead.

I brought a new member on the team to help with support. UpDog will be handling 2+2 for now and emails soon. He will be starting promptly.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/445496/


This is his last post itt. Nearly 5 months ago.
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10-30-2020 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Check Lay
Been using it today. It is decent. I find the tiling works better but other than that it is missing a bunch of features.
I am affiliated with them but yes IntuitiveTables doesn't have the same level of features TT did but its pretty new. Most of the features you mentioned are in the software but the recent Ignition patch did affect certain things. I can say at least the issues are identified and getting fixed and features getting added whereas here I dont know if theres any hope left.
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10-31-2020 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by doubledave22
I am affiliated with them but yes IntuitiveTables doesn't have the same level of features TT did but its pretty new. Most of the features you mentioned are in the software but the recent Ignition patch did affect certain things. I can say at least the issues are identified and getting fixed and features getting added whereas here I dont know if theres any hope left.
Does it have auto timebank?
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10-31-2020 , 02:00 AM
Is TT still locking up Ignition? (not allowing tables to open)
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10-31-2020 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by doubledave22
I am affiliated with them but yes IntuitiveTables doesn't have the same level of features TT did but its pretty new. Most of the features you mentioned are in the software but the recent Ignition patch did affect certain things. I can say at least the issues are identified and getting fixed and features getting added whereas here I dont know if theres any hope left.
Yeah if betsizing, $ to BB, and full xbox controller hotkey usage functionality is added I will be a subscriber. (only some of the buttons seem to respond / work as hotkeys currently)
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10-31-2020 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tradenine
Is TT still locking up Ignition? (not allowing tables to open)
It seems so yes. Pressing the configure files button seems to make the client never load tables and just give u black screen. Is there a fix for this? This is happening with the latest Ignition patch. Does switching to another skin help maybe?
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10-31-2020 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB


Seeing as another multi-tabling software product is no longer supporting this site, I have decided to make a version of Poker Minion for Ignition/Bovada. I'll try to get the first Beta versions out by the middle of November.
Soon we will have an alternative
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11-01-2020 , 09:59 AM
at first glance Poker Minion looks pretty cool but for 50$ a month (40 for 3month sub, no yearly option) I wont be a customer at that price. Stack and tile is $18 a month or ~13$/mo for yearly sub. Intuitive Tables is 12 a month or 99 for yearly.

SaT and IT will do what most people are looking for at a fraction of the price.

Stack and Tile is the best value imo. Its a fast, lightweight, barebones UI. No fancy colors or buttons but its gets the job done

Last edited by EmilioChekshevez; 11-01-2020 at 10:05 AM.
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11-01-2020 , 11:06 AM
Poker Minion is $50/month per site and barely has any sites. Sounds like a rip off to me.
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11-01-2020 , 12:49 PM
I don’t want to derail the thread of another software product, but I will make this post just to address the two posts above.

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Originally Posted by EmilioChekshevez
at first glance Poker Minion looks pretty cool but for 50$ a month (40 for 3month sub, no yearly option) I wont be a customer at that price. Stack and tile is $18 a month or ~13$/mo for yearly sub. Intuitive Tables is 12 a month or 99 for yearly.

SaT and IT will do what most people are looking for at a fraction of the price.

Stack and Tile is the best value imo. Its a fast, lightweight, barebones UI. No fancy colors or buttons but its gets the job done
I agree. Minion is too expensive at that price for any recreational players, and it has only ever been a product geared towards pros (until I recently added a micro-stakes PokerBros version for $19/month.) As such, it does a lot more than just basic tiling, and is- I believe- a massive +EV option for pros. Those Pros who subscribe presumably think the same.

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Originally Posted by huaw1ad
Poker Minion is $50/month per site and barely has any sites. Sounds like a rip off to me.
It is most certainly not a “rip off.” The terms of service state that I will never invade your home, put a gun to your head, and force you to subscribe. After a trial period, players have the option to subscribe or to not subscribe. If they chose the former, then they receive the best customer support of any product online.

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I've had several players who have used Minion previously ask me in recent weeks if I would make a version for Ignition/Bovada, hence why I have chosen to do so.
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11-01-2020 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I don’t want to derail the thread of another software product, but I will make this post just to address the two posts above.



I agree. Minion is too expensive at that price for any recreational players, and it has only ever been a product geared towards pros (until I recently added a micro-stakes PokerBros version for $19/month.) As such, it does a lot more than just basic tiling, and is- I believe- a massive +EV option for pros. Those Pros who subscribe presumably think the same.



It is most certainly not a “rip off.” The terms of service state that I will never invade your home, put a gun to your head, and force you to subscribe. After a trial period, players have the option to subscribe or to not subscribe. If they chose the former, then they receive the best customer support of any product online.

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I've had several players who have used Minion previously ask me in recent weeks if I would make a version for Ignition/Bovada, hence why I have chosen to do so.
I would love a program that works well and has similar features to TT(ie bet size buttons, RNG, bet line descriptions, fold hotkey, auto-fill preflop bet sizes)

BUT $50/mo or $600/yr would be WAY too much for me.
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11-01-2020 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1270
I would love a program that works well and has similar features to TT(ie bet size buttons, RNG, bet line descriptions, fold hotkey, auto-fill preflop bet sizes)

BUT $50/mo or $600/yr would be WAY too much for me.
JuroJin poker has all these and is free. Very slick software I use it over multiple sites and on their discord group they said that bovada/ignition is top of the priority and in this next week should have:

Sized hot keys
Auto timebank
Auto sit back in
front enlarge
$ to bb
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11-01-2020 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1270
I would love a program that works well and has similar features to TT(ie bet size buttons, RNG, bet line descriptions, fold hotkey, auto-fill preflop bet sizes)

BUT $50/mo or $600/yr would be WAY too much for me.
That price is a LOL to me. I don´t care if the guy does the software for PROS or not, is not worthing the 50$ per month.
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11-01-2020 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1270
I would love a program that works well and has similar features to TT(ie bet size buttons, RNG, bet line descriptions, fold hotkey, auto-fill preflop bet sizes)

BUT $50/mo or $600/yr would be WAY too much for me.
Same
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11-01-2020 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1270
I would love a program that works well and has similar features to TT(ie bet size buttons, RNG, bet line descriptions, fold hotkey, auto-fill preflop bet sizes)

BUT $50/mo or $600/yr would be WAY too much for me.
$49 (or $39) is the price for pros on PokerBros or PokerMaster. The PPPoker version is $29. Microstakes versions are $19. I haven't even written the Ignition version yet, let alone price it. But the value on a 4-table max site would be less than others of course, and the price will reflect that.

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Originally Posted by Evil_Invader
That price is a LOL to me. I don´t care if the guy does the software for PROS or not, is not worthing the 50$ per month.
Yes, $50 would be WAY too much for someone playing, say, $3 SNGs on Ignition. However if you were a pro on PokerBros, and it allowed you to play more table/volume/hours, prevented you from getting RSI, saved you from missing action on unseen tables [PB allows up to 4 tables per emulator] by automatically switching to the most urgent "hidden" table, facilitated the otherwise painful action of entering bets, and ultimately earned you several extra buy ins of EV each month (all while having any problems solved by support the same day, and often immediately) then you may think it was good value.
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11-01-2020 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
$49 (or $39) is the price for pros on PokerBros or PokerMaster. The PPPoker version is $29. I haven't even written the Ignition version yet, let alone price it. But the value on a 4-table max site would be less than others of course, and the price will reflect that.



Yes, $50 would be WAY too much for someone playing, say, $3 SNGs on Ignition. However if you were a pro on PokerBros, and it allowed you to play more table/volume/hours, prevented you from getting RSI, saved you from missing action on unseen tables [PB allows up to 4 tables per emulator] by automatically switching to the most urgent, facilitated the otherwise painful action of entering bets, and ultimately earned you several extra buy ins of EV each month (all while having any problems solved by support the same day, and often immediately) then you may think it was good value.
Actually I play poker for a living and I don't play on ignition. What makes me earn those several extra buy ins is the effort I put in the game, not exactly your software. I don't agree with you but I am not going to discuss more about this.
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11-02-2020 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I don’t want to derail the thread of another software product, but I will make this post just to address the two posts above.



I agree. Minion is too expensive at that price for any recreational players, and it has only ever been a product geared towards pros (until I recently added a micro-stakes PokerBros version for $19/month.) As such, it does a lot more than just basic tiling, and is- I believe- a massive +EV option for pros. Those Pros who subscribe presumably think the same.



It is most certainly not a “rip off.” The terms of service state that I will never invade your home, put a gun to your head, and force you to subscribe. After a trial period, players have the option to subscribe or to not subscribe. If they chose the former, then they receive the best customer support of any product online.

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I've had several players who have used Minion previously ask me in recent weeks if I would make a version for Ignition/Bovada, hence why I have chosen to do so.

I play on three different poker sites and you charge $50 per site per month. So to get your software to work on the three sites I play on it would cost me $1800 a year. Seems overpriced.

Last edited by huaw1ad; 11-02-2020 at 03:14 AM.
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11-02-2020 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by huaw1ad
I play on three different poker sites and you charge $50 per site per month. So to get your software to work on the three sites I play on it would cost me $1800 a year. Seems overpriced.
That's incorrect. A one-year subscription to THREE different apps would cost you $600 for the PRO versions. If you'd like a breakdown of the pricing then feel free to PM me.

Anyone is welcome to post in my support thread or to PM me, of course. I will gladly answer any questions. I'd prefer not to post in this thread, but I'm forced to if someone posts false information here. Thanks.
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11-02-2020 , 12:19 PM
one of the biggest features I am missing from TT is previous actions panel (eg. x-c-b-r). Does poker minion have this feature or is it possible to do? Very helpful to keep track of previous actions when playing 4+ tables to me
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11-02-2020 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by riverron5
one of the biggest features I am missing from TT is previous actions panel (eg. x-c-b-r). Does poker minion have this feature or is it possible to do? Very helpful to keep track of previous actions when playing 4+ tables to me
Hello. Good question. I have responded in the Poker Minion support thread.
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11-02-2020 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
That's incorrect. A one-year subscription to THREE different apps would cost you $600 for the PRO versions. If you'd like a breakdown of the pricing then feel free to PM me.

Anyone is welcome to post in my support thread or to PM me, of course. I will gladly answer any questions. I'd prefer not to post in this thread, but I'm forced to if someone posts false information here. Thanks.

I’m looking at your subscriptions page and it lists each website it is available for and then says $49 per month. No where on there does it say that if you buy one you have access to it for all websites. If that is indeed the case then you should make that clear on your website.
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11-02-2020 , 04:29 PM
It is not the case, but thanks for the advice. And for the record, there are virtual no players who play on three different apps simultaneously, and there are VERY few who even play two different apps at the same time. As I asked previously, would you please PM me (or post in the Minion support thread) if this information is important or relevant to you. Thank you.
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11-06-2020 , 05:49 PM
anyone still has some kind of functionality/working form of TT since the new pokerstars Aurora update? (and you can't disable it anymore)?
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