Well, if you have an idea of setting 2 different poker-rooms to different grid layouts, than you can use a soft named "sandboxie". It'll allow to use 2 different SaT at the same time. So you can set up one SaT layout for 1 poker-room and another SaT for another one. Then install sandboxie and click on one SaT shortcut with Right button - Run Sandboxed.

Would Sandboxie not work with two different grid layouts of the same poker client? Like if I wanted to have the sunday mill and sunday warmup on my monitor with a bigger table size than the stars $109 and $55 with the other SaT and a smaller table size?

No, surely.

hrmmm, it would def be possible to control different sites with each separate SaT instance. if you want to control tables within the same site, you might have to set up custom site configs using the CustomSiteCreator, and then specifiy specific table titles

sandboxie isnt really required to run two SaT instances. all you need to do is copy the SaT directory and run both exe's. i use sandboxie regularly but it is for security purposes


like i said in the previous post, youll need to set up custom site configs. one of the steps allows you to include_title_text and youll have to see if the table window titles of the $215, $109, $55s are different, if they show the buyins in the title, then you should be good.

then you might end up with a custom site config such as (simplified):

default stars size:
and

small sized:
so as you can see, for the small size, i leave the 'include title text' blank so that all will match, but then we 'exclude' the "$215" text, and for the full size, we only include tables that match that.

of course, that is IF the buyin amount is contained in the title of the table window

hope that gives you a start

Quick question. Everything is working perfectly for me. But i have one issue that may or may not be able to be solved.

I have my new tables stack.
My main tables stack that i play out of.
And 4 other tiled slots i send tables to.

My question is, when i fold in my main stack, it always goes to the bottom of the stack, leaving me with a new table with or without action needed.

Is there a way to just have the table stay there until another table requires action? I dont have time to figure out if its a table where i have been dealt cards and its my turn to act or not yet.

I've tried a traditional Fold hotkey with SAT. I've tried Fold+restack which obviously wouldnt work the way i want it, and I've tried using no fold hotkey in SAT and using one from tableninja.

All three create the same issue.

Any thoughts?

So does this not automatically move the tables if you just hit the fold call or bet buttons on the table? I can get it to work for if I use the hotkeys. Just wondering if this is the only way or am I missing something. I have messed around with this forever...

Nevermind, it worked fine when i did just use tableninja to fold. Great product.

automatically - no. you have to set up a hot key. actually it shouldn't (by it's main idea) stack the table when you press call or bet - only when you press fold.

create an extra slot.

Move it so most of that slot is off the screen with just the top or bottom of that slot showing.

Set that slot as your stack.

When you fold the stack is out of sight and out of mind.

Stu i'm not sure how that would have helped. if thats my main stack, then when a table actually does need attention, wont i be unable to see it?

i dont want everytable to be popped into a grid. i want my new tables in a stack that doesnt steal focus. then i want a main stack i play out of 90% of the time. then 10% of the time i will manually pop out a table to have extra thought on.

how would your solution relate to that format? if i set my main stack to a stack thats 95% off the screen, when a table does need action wont it appear in that stack?

Don't know if this would help you but I tried a new way of stack and tiling but its more like tiling and stacking. You set the main stack off the screen or in my case the "other" screen where I don't focus on. Set SaT on Preflop mode and set you hotkeys to stack immediately after performing an action. e.g. call+stack and bet+stack.

I set my grid on my main playing monitor so when action is on me the table pops into the grid. I then perform an action and then the table goes away again. IF I wanted more attention I could either click the button directly so the table stays in the grid or I can set up another hotkey that just clicks the action button but it doesn't stack it afterwards. e.g. if I use right click to fold and stack normally I can set shift+right click to fold but not stack. I personally use a game controller to help me do this.

Hope this makes sense. It may feel weird at first but I far prefer this method of playing many tables. Maybe you could try it and see if it works for you. FWIW I was from the playing out of the stack and moving tables into the grid when necessary camp as well before I changed method.

yeah that makes sense, but are you 24 tabling? seems to me i'd have a ton of tables popping into my grid constantly, sort of defeating the purpose.

as of now, i use a hotkey to send a table to the grid, and a hotkey to send the table back. and a hotkey to send a new table to the main stack. after the sending i then have to hit fold/call etc, or activate urgent table when moving from new stack to main stack. not that big of a deal.

but it would save time if the fold+stack worked the way i wanted it to. i mean it works perfect, the problem is, out of your main stack, as soon as you hit it, the next table pops up even if it doesnt require action.

so if you are playing quickly, you might see your 2 cards, but its not your turn to act, and as soon as you accidently hit fold (which is folding in advance) a table requiring action pops up with AA and you fold them. oops

When the table needs attention it will move from the stack to the grid!

Just try it.

I have used that method for 20 tabling and it works well for me. Yes you would have tables popping out into the grid. I only use 4 tables in my grid so its not so bad. Normally, with standard stacking you have tables waiting to act behind and when you have acted on it the table disappears and the next table requiring action appears. I see this other method as having 4 stacks and also allows you time to think.

It works for me anyway. Good luck in finding a solution

check in Advanced Options, i forget if i put the option in to 'send to bottom on stacking'

yes, turn on Left Click Detection in Advanced Options on the About tab

greg, no that option is not there, but would be great if that could be adjusted, so when folding from the stack it won't go to bottom unless there is another table requiring action, but that would conflict with fold+restack i'm sure. i could just have a separate fold button obviously but that isnt much fun having 2 fold buttons.

its not that big of a deal, but if its a quick fix to change that, that would be great, so you can use the fold+restack when moving from new stack to main stack, and from grid to main stack, but when folding in the main stack its just a usual fold and table doesnt change unless another table requires action.

thanks

sorry, that option actually IS included already, so someone mustve requested it long ago. i just didnt add it to the gui.

so, to enable it, do this:
in your SaT config (File menu should show your current config file), open it and add this new line under the [settings] section

Can't get that... send_to_bottom_on_stack - maybe it should be "1" to enable? anyway tried both settings and it doesn't seem to work...

Is it in the [settings] section (if its in the wrong section it wont work)

Yes, sure.

I get this error, when trying to add a site:

Stack and tile xxxxx

Dosent match site.

??

Downloaded the newest version from ur site, its 1.9xx

I cant seem to figure out how to incorporate betting amounts with this program. I got it setup and working. I have assigned hot-keys for f-fold, c-call, and b-bet, but when I push B it bets the minimum. How do I get it to bet 2BB, 2.5BB, 3BB, etc...? Sorry if this was asked previously. I did a search and just didn't seem to find anything in this thread about this.

what site are you trying to add?

unfortunately there is no BetPot functionality included

Greg I made a script which makes tables go back to stack whenever the hand is over or after some delay. Works with FTP, Stars and Ipoker only. Its a littly laggy but it works. Would u like to use it to update your script?

What would work best with your program to assign the betting slider to the mouse wheel for poker stars? Is this something you foresee being added to your program? Thanks! Great work! I am really loving the program!!