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08-10-2010 , 04:29 AM
can we post feature requests here?

I'd like to see an option so assign grids as normal AND important grid at the same time. And we will need a hotkey to send tables to the grid and auto lock that grid until released.



For example, in this pic I will set grids 1,2,3,4(or all except stack and new table stack) as important grids. During normal play, SaT will assign tables accordingly but when I set a table as important, it will be transferred to grid 1 and locked. if a non-important table is present on grid 1, it will be transferred to a vacant grid or stack(whichever is available), but if it's also important then the table will be transferred to the next important grid(grid 2) and so on.
And an option to "auto-organize" grid based on who came first to grid, when a table is closed or released, can also be added. This setting will keep the important tables organized.

This will be great for interesting hands, bubble play, or ITM play.
"Keep table in grid" is fine, unfortunately the tables are all-over the screen and makes them quite difficult to follow.
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08-10-2010 , 05:39 AM
i have one question: what happends if all slots all full (one table in every defined slot) and a new table in the stack is needing action?
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08-10-2010 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nomar2408
i have one question: what happends if all slots all full (one table in every defined slot) and a new table in the stack is needing action?
It stays on the stack until you clear a grid.
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08-10-2010 , 02:30 PM
Hello All,

I simply want a program to save a table layout so that I dont have to resize them constantly. I tile my tables and I dont need any fold shortcuts because I use table ninja and Im happy with it. I know that Place Mint can do this for me but I am too stupid to use it as weeks of failure have revealed. Can I use Stack and Tile for this? Thanks!
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08-10-2010 , 04:39 PM
yes
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08-10-2010 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by konrad
Hello All,

I simply want a program to save a table layout so that I dont have to resize them constantly. I tile my tables and I dont need any fold shortcuts because I use table ninja and Im happy with it. I know that Place Mint can do this for me but I am too stupid to use it as weeks of failure have revealed. Can I use Stack and Tile for this? Thanks!
FTP and Stars software let you create and save your own table layouts.
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08-10-2010 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmar
This would be good. Because Im trying out the preflop settings but sometimes the new tables will overlap with the running tables if "new tables stack" is 0. Or worse the new tables pop up over the stack and I wont notice it .

So it would be great if new tables can be immediately activated and transferred to the stack. For now Ill just use new tables stack.
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Yeah, pretty much if new tables were immediately activated into the existing stack this program would be perfect.


this would be possible to do, however, realize that you are asking if you open up a table, it will immediately move to the stack before you even have a chance to sit down. is this what you guys want? thats why the new tables stack was requested and introduced

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And for the stack is it normal for the tables to keep on cycling until a table with fold button pops up? The cycling part hurts my eyes hehehe.
yes normal. this must be done, because if a table in grid requires action, then no other tables will pop up until that is acted on. but, we need our stack to stay updated. hence the cycling
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08-10-2010 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Suerte
hi. Does this program take screen grabs of my tables at any time? The program I am running it in does not allow for any program to take screen grabs of my monitor, and that might account for the problems I aam having.
yes, its taking screenshots of the tables to determine if the fold button is visible.

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When i set up grid or try to add a site, it will NOT recognize a PS or FTP table. It allows me to set the ahk "stack and tile" window as my "poker table" but it will not recognize the actual PS or FTP table as being a window.

Am I doing something wrong that you can think of?
perhaps you are running the poker software as administrator, but not SaT. if so, you'll need to run it as adminsitrator

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Also, why does this program connect to the internet on startup? Thanks.
to check the expiration of the beta
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08-10-2010 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nomar2408
hello,

one short question: the tool ist freeware right? what das the date on the webpage means? something with 15th august?!

is the tool stacking automatically, so no matter on pokerstars layout for example?
freeware for now. the date is when the program expires. i have been putting out new versions each time.

the tool does not stack tables automatically, but it also dis-regards any pokerstars layout. it all depends what you want it to do..
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08-10-2010 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmar
regarding new table stack and stack; is it alright if just 10-20% of the table is seen on my screen? Im doing it to save space, and not to get annoyed with the stack and new table stacks flickering.
any grid slot can be located wherever you want. if you are using 'preflop' tile method, then the normal stack is just a placeholder. no action is ever taken in the stack, since tables are moved as soon as action is required. so yes, you could just move it partially off screen (probably a good idea to leave it partially visible so that you could manually move tables from it use other hotkeys)


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tested this, the new table stack will detect new tables and tables can be transferred to the stack BUT once the table leaves the stack "fold and stack" wont work.

Also when I transferred the stack slot, SaT can transfer a table to the old stack grid, so I dont understand why it doesnt work for "fold and stack".
what do you mean when you say 'fold+stack' doesnt work. what doesnt work? folding or stacking or both? it should work..
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08-10-2010 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmar
can we post feature requests here?
of course

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Originally Posted by ronmar
I'd like to see an option so assign grids as normal AND important grid at the same time. And we will need a hotkey to send tables to the grid and auto lock that grid until released.



For example, in this pic I will set grids 1,2,3,4(or all except stack and new table stack) as important grids. During normal play, SaT will assign tables accordingly but when I set a table as important, it will be transferred to grid 1 and locked. if a non-important table is present on grid 1, it will be transferred to a vacant grid or stack(whichever is available), but if it's also important then the table will be transferred to the next important grid(grid 2) and so on.

And an option to "auto-organize" grid based on who came first to grid, when a table is closed or released, can also be added. This setting will keep the important tables organized.

This will be great for interesting hands, bubble play, or ITM play.
"Keep table in grid" is fine, unfortunately the tables are all-over the screen and makes them quite difficult to follow.
hrmm.. this is an unusual request, and would take some significant functionality changes. honestly at the moment, i probably cannot get to this request for quite some time. right now i'm trying to get left click vpip button detection working (so you dont need vpip hotkeys), and further out, i want to try to implement different grid table sizes.

i'm not sure what qualifies as an 'important' grid slot as opposed to 'non-important'. if you could give some better examples, that might help me understand the request better. normally when people want to set aside 'important' tables, its because they are using 'Never' tile setting, where they just play out of the stack, and then use a 'manual move' hotkey to send 'important' tables to the grid
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08-10-2010 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by konrad
Hello All,

I simply want a program to save a table layout so that I dont have to resize them constantly. I tile my tables and I dont need any fold shortcuts because I use table ninja and Im happy with it. I know that Place Mint can do this for me but I am too stupid to use it as weeks of failure have revealed. Can I use Stack and Tile for this? Thanks!
sure SaT can handle this, its probably over kill though. run the program, click Setup Grid (you will choose your table size), after that click Configure Grid to see how it will look. then, set up a 'stack' and 'manual move to grid' hotkeys. then include your pokersites. click start, move tables to stack or grid as you choose
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08-10-2010 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
this would be possible to do, however, realize that you are asking if you open up a table, it will immediately move to the stack before you even have a chance to sit down. is this what you guys want? thats why the new tables stack was requested and introduced
it would be great for tourney players since we dont select seats. I dont know how it will affect cash games. An option to turn on/off would be great, because other sites might have different ways.

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Originally Posted by greg nice
any grid slot can be located wherever you want. if you are using 'preflop' tile method, then the normal stack is just a placeholder. no action is ever taken in the stack, since tables are moved as soon as action is required. so yes, you could just move it partially off screen (probably a good idea to leave it partially visible so that you could manually move tables from it use other hotkeys)




what do you mean when you say 'fold+stack' doesnt work. what doesnt work? folding or stacking or both? it should work..
its actually the stacking that doesnt work. SaT will fold the hand but the table wont move to the stack which is partially visible.


about my request, is it possible?
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08-11-2010 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
sure SaT can handle this, its probably over kill though. run the program, click Setup Grid (you will choose your table size), after that click Configure Grid to see how it will look. then, set up a 'stack' and 'manual move to grid' hotkeys. then include your pokersites. click start, move tables to stack or grid as you choose
First off, thanks alot for your help. This is what I need but I still have a few questions:

1. I want to have different layouts to choose from because I need different size tables depending on how many games are running. I want a different layout for 4 tables, 6, and 9. As it is now, I set up a layout for 6 tables, but when I have only two games going, I would prefer the tables to occupy the whole width of the screen like when I tile them through FTP.

2. How can I manually move a specific table to a specific slot of my choice. Say, I want to put the most expensive games in the middle of the screen and the others along the borders. As it is now, when I click the manually move table hotkey, its seems to move the table to a predefined slot instead of letting me choose which one I want it to go to.

Thanks again for your help and for this great program!
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08-11-2010 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by konrad
First off, thanks alot for your help. This is what I need but I still have a few questions:

1. I want to have different layouts to choose from because I need different size tables depending on how many games are running. I want a different layout for 4 tables, 6, and 9. As it is now, I set up a layout for 6 tables, but when I have only two games going, I would prefer the tables to occupy the whole width of the screen like when I tile them through FTP.

after you have set up a 4 table layout, copy & paste the StackAndTile-new.ini file and rename it to 4.

2. How can I manually move a specific table to a specific slot of my choice. Say, I want to put the most expensive games in the middle of the screen and the others along the borders. As it is now, when I click the manually move table hotkey, its seems to move the table to a predefined slot instead of letting me choose which one I want it to go to.

click it twice.

Thanks again for your help and for this great program!
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08-11-2010 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by konrad
First off, thanks alot for your help. This is what I need but I still have a few questions:

1. I want to have different layouts to choose from because I need different size tables depending on how many games are running. I want a different layout for 4 tables, 6, and 9. As it is now, I set up a layout for 6 tables, but when I have only two games going, I would prefer the tables to occupy the whole width of the screen like when I tile them through FTP.

after you have set up a 4 table layout, copy & paste the StackAndTile-new.ini file and rename it to 4.

2. How can I manually move a specific table to a specific slot of my choice. Say, I want to put the most expensive games in the middle of the screen and the others along the borders. As it is now, when I click the manually move table hotkey, its seems to move the table to a predefined slot instead of letting me choose which one I want it to go to.

click it twice.

Thanks again for your help and for this great program!
Im assuming this is 4.ini right?
Can you explain what happens when it goes down to 4 tables?
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08-11-2010 , 02:01 AM
im sorry, do i copy-paste it and move it somewhere, or just rename?
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08-11-2010 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
of course



hrmm.. this is an unusual request, and would take some significant functionality changes. honestly at the moment, i probably cannot get to this request for quite some time. right now i'm trying to get left click vpip button detection working (so you dont need vpip hotkeys), and further out, i want to try to implement different grid table sizes.

i'm not sure what qualifies as an 'important' grid slot as opposed to 'non-important'. if you could give some better examples, that might help me understand the request better. normally when people want to set aside 'important' tables, its because they are using 'Never' tile setting, where they just play out of the stack, and then use a 'manual move' hotkey to send 'important' tables to the grid
the important grids could be anything that the user will set, but usually this will be bubble, or ITM tables for SNG and MTT players.

I tried the 'Never' tile setting but the scanning of tables will cause headaches after a long time. Maybe its just me
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08-11-2010 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ronmar
Im assuming this is 4.ini right?
yes

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Can you explain what happens when it goes down to 4 tables?
1. copy and paste 4.ini (it will become 4 - copy.ini)
2. delete StackAndTile-new.ini
3. rename 4 - copy.ini to StackAndTile-new.ini
4. Stop SaT
5. Start Sat

if you have 3 layouts you will have 4 ini files in the folder.

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im sorry, do i copy-paste it and move it somewhere, or just rename?
copy and paste and rename, in the same folder as the original .ini.
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08-11-2010 , 03:46 AM
should i delete the original after and rename as you instructed ronmar to do? and once i have the different ini files in my SaT folder, how do I tell SaT which one to use?

Last edited by konrad; 08-11-2010 at 04:05 AM.
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08-11-2010 , 12:46 PM
Great program. Any plans to make this work for AP? Thanks
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08-11-2010 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmar

its actually the stacking that doesnt work. SaT will fold the hand but the table wont move to the stack which is partially visible.
very strange. this shouldnt happen..

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about my request, is it possible?

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the important grids could be anything that the user will set, but usually this will be bubble, or ITM tables for SNG and MTT players.

I tried the 'Never' tile setting but the scanning of tables will cause headaches after a long time. Maybe its just me
anything is possible, but i am limited as one person developer, and this request requires a lot of thought on my part on how to implement it, and unfortunately probably won't get done anytime soon
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08-11-2010 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by konrad
should i delete the original after and rename as you instructed ronmar to do? and once i have the different ini files in my SaT folder, how do I tell SaT which one to use?
right now, SaT can only use one layout and ini file at a time. this is definitely on the to-do list to change. betweaver gave you good instructions. its gonna be a pain, but each time you want to use a different layout, youll have to rename that file to "StackAndTile-new.ini"
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08-11-2010 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 30 Curry 30
Great program. Any plans to make this work for AP? Thanks
shouldn't be too hard to get AP to work. someone has already posted settings for it, i havent tested though. check here:

http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/4
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08-11-2010 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by konrad
should i delete the original after and rename as you instructed ronmar to do? and once i have the different ini files in my SaT folder, how do I tell SaT which one to use?
I should have said (my bad) that in the beginning when you first make your 4 table layout the file name will be StackAndTile-new.ini, which you need to copy - and it will become StackAndTile-new-copy.ini - and the copied file is the one you rename to 4.ini. So at this stage you will have 2 .ini files in your folder. There must always be a StackAndTile-new.ini file in the folder, just the contents of that folder will change.

1. copy and paste 4.ini (it will become 4 - copy.ini)
2. delete StackAndTile-new.ini
3. rename 4 - copy.ini to StackAndTile-new.ini

4. Stop SaT
5. Start Sat
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