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04-21-2015 , 06:22 PM
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However, there are still some issues i have with SaT (pokerstars):

1. Using the "after entering pot" tile-mode, sometimes tables get moved into the designated slot after i take action without actually activating the call/bet button.
causing me to need to hover the table to click the button once more.
happens every now and then, dunno what causes this.
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Originally Posted by greg nice
How are you 'entering pot'? Are you clicking the buttons with your mouse? Or using SaT hotkeys? Or some other method?
clicking the left mouse button on the software manually (pokerstars).

here are screenshots of my hotkeys & advanced settings





or could this have to do with stars settings?
everything else works fine now.


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3. the replayer
i know this got mentioned multiple times but this is really essential.
SaT makes the replayer unusable. using the "ignore" feature, you can at least drag the replayer somewhere else to leave it there when in need but it seems to move away back into the slot after a while (maybe i cause this not sure).
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Originally Posted by greg nice

The default Stars sites within SaT will detect the replayer as a normal table. How is that unusable? It should just occupy a slot like a regular table.
its just a bit impractical with the "after entering pot" tile-mode, its the same as with timed out tables. i set up a hotkey to start/stop SaT to drag out the needed tables. thats an okayish workaround. nbd
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04-22-2015 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
clicking the left mouse button on the software manually (pokerstars).

here are screenshots of my hotkeys & advanced settings

http://i.imgur.com/x7iD0J8.jpg

or could this have to do with stars settings?
everything else works fine now.
The only relevant setting is in Advanced Options for "Left mouse click detection". You have that turned on which is correct, that is how SaT will detect the mouse clicks within the button ranges.

If the table is moving into the grid, then that means that SaT has detected a click within a button region. But you say the button itself isn't being clicked, which means PokerStars isn't registering the click.

Probably this is happening when you are playing a decent amount of tables and clicking around fast. My guess is one of two scenarios is happening, and I would like you to test both. Open up just one table and put the table in the stack. Then when its your turn to act, try clicking very slowly and deliberately on Call or Bet. The table should correctly move into the grid. This is the normal case.

Now, there are two edge cases. Put the table back into the stack, and wait for your turn to act. First, click DOWN on Call/Bet and hold the click down. Stars should highlight the button somehow to visually indicate the button is down. But then while still holding the click down, move your mouse outside of the button, and then release. In this case, Stars should NOT register the click, since when you RELEASED the click, your mouse location was outside the button. Test that and see if SaT incorrectly moves the table into the grid.

Next, test the opposite. Click down OUTSIDE of the buttons, hold the click down, and then move the mouse over the button, and release the click while over the button. And see what happens with both Stars and SaT.



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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
its just a bit impractical with the "after entering pot" tile-mode, its the same as with timed out tables. i set up a hotkey to start/stop SaT to drag out the needed tables. thats an okayish workaround. nbd
Ah yes, if you are moving New Tables directly into the stack, then the Replayer will get lost in the stack. I assumed you were moving New Tables to the grid.
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04-23-2015 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It doesn't really make much sense to me.. Which seat would it choose? Normally people like to choose their own seat based on position on a tough player or on a fish. I don't think many people would just want to be randomly seated..
what are you talking about? Unless your specifically starting new games 90% of the time you come in on a waitlist or 1 seat open and you obv don't have a choice

Tables with fish on them with multiple seats open was like 10 years ago lol
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04-23-2015 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RU18LOL
what are you talking about? Unless your specifically starting new games 90% of the time you come in on a waitlist or 1 seat open and you obv don't have a choice

Tables with fish on them with multiple seats open was like 10 years ago lol
Well perhaps that was my bias from when I played. I was usually starting new games against badregs. Rarely I would hop on a waitlist. But your original request said nothing about waitlists. You said "when a new table opens"

Doesn't the client auto sit you in the seat and just popup a box for buyin amount? I thought Stars did this at least. And even if I clicked the seat, the buyin box would still need to be taken care of by the user..
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04-24-2015 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Turn on all notifications (in advanced options) and tell me what notifications pop up when the table moves to the stack and then moves right back out
sry for the late reply, I could try before...

Anyway I turned on the notifications and the sequence of messages is this:
-New table detected
-End of hand
-Table move to grid, action is required

and that's where the problem is... the table is move to the stack into the grid because S&T thinks I have to take action, while this isn't true.
I also tried to reconfig the room, without any help
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04-24-2015 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
sry for the late reply, I could try before...

Anyway I turned on the notifications and the sequence of messages is this:
-New table detected
-End of hand
-Table move to grid, action is required

and that's where the problem is... the table is move to the stack into the grid because S&T thinks I have to take action, while this isn't true.
I also tried to reconfig the room, without any help
Can you click File->Current Layout and paste me the full config file?
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04-24-2015 , 01:53 PM
[settings]
table_width=769
table_height=557
total_slots=7
slot1x=2591
slot1y=493
slot2x=1
slot2y=0
slot3x=770
slot3y=0
slot4x=0
slot4y=456
stack_slot=1
newtables_slot=grid
move_to_grid=preflop
oldtables_duration=5
oldtables_slot=grid
scan_mode=PW
activate_most_urgent=1
activate_table_under_mouse=0
highlight_active_win=0
move_mouse_to_most_urgent=0
left_click_detection=1
stack_when_clicking_call_or_bet=0
stack_table_at_end_of_hand=1
drag_drop_swap_slots=1
minimize_to_tray=0
show_table_count_while_running=0
show_session_timer=0
move_888_popups=1
close_bovada_popups=1
notify_new_tables=1
notify_old_tables=1
notify_keep_in_grid=1
notify_ignore_table=1
notify_move_to_grid=1
notify_end_of_hand=1
notification_duration=3
hotkeys_fire_on_release=0
allow_action_hotkeys_on_ignored_tables=0
click_bet_for_betsize_hotkeys=0
also_keep_in_grid_when_move_to_slot_x=0
also_click_checkfold_checkbox=0
also_stack_table_for_betsizeX=0
focus_betbox=0
slot5x=769
slot5y=453
slot6x=402
slot6y=0
slot7x=402
slot7y=453
play_mode=SaT
[general]
show_walkthru=0
gui_x=2704
gui_y=43
last_tab=
filename=SV.ini
is_reloading=0
version=2.77
v=tr
[sites]
number_of_sites=1
included_sites=PokerStarsNova
PokerStarsNova_included_executable_path=C:\Program Files (x86)\PokerStars.IT\PokerStars.exe
PokerStarsNova_included_resized_table_width=769
PokerStarsNova_included_resized_table_height=557
PokerStarsNova_included_hole_x_coord=349
PokerStarsNova_included_hole_y_coord=350
PokerStarsNova_included_fold_color=0x3031d
PokerStarsNova_included_call_color=0x90a5a
PokerStarsNova_included_bet_color=0x9094e
PokerStarsNova_included_table_color_behind_holecar d=0x1b1b1b
PokerStarsNova_included_flop_x_coord=278
PokerStarsNova_included_flop_y_coord=224
PokerStarsNova_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x 121212
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=0
send_table_under_mouse=1
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04-25-2015 , 06:31 AM
Hi, I just want to update you.
I tried what you described here
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly
without any help.
I also tried to change the colors of nova theme, but it doesn't change anything.
When I'm using the stack table hotkey, the table go to the stack and then back again into the grid
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04-25-2015 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-Star General
Hi, I just want to update you.
I tried what you described here
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help...op-incorrectly
without any help.
I also tried to change the colors of nova theme, but it doesn't change anything.
When I'm using the stack table hotkey, the table go to the stack and then back again into the grid
for reference, we just reduced the color_variation in his config and that seemed to have fixed it
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04-26-2015 , 02:13 AM
does stack and tile work for WPN everytime i try to run it it crashes.
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04-26-2015 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by idun215
does stack and tile work for WPN everytime i try to run it it crashes.
Sure. Its supposed to. What crashes, SaT or the WinningPoker client?
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04-26-2015 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
One potential solution so that the replayer doesn't get detected as a table, is to choose to only detect Stars tables with the words "Logged in as" in the titlebar. This would mean the replayer wouldn't get detected. The problem with this is, when you originally open a cash table, it also wouldn't get detected, until you finally take a seat. I don't know if I like that.
It would be great if you could add this feature. As is, i manually ignore the replayer every time i open it. More importantly, i'd prefer cash tables not be detected and added to the stack until i've taken a seat.

On another note, i'm not sure if its been mentioned before, but I'll try to describe a small bug i've found. If i click the hotkey to "keep table in grid" then "ignore table", the table moves to my ignored tables slot as it should. When I click the "ignore table" hotkey again to stop ignoring, the table moves to my new tables slot. At this point it's stuck there until i manually move it back into the grid. The "keep table in grid" hotkey also doesnt work on it again until i've manually moved the table to the grid.

Ideally when I stop ignoring the table it should either be added back as normal new table or be added back to the grid to stay there. I think as is, SaT gets confused and does something in between
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04-26-2015 , 04:33 PM
thanks for the report, i will investigate

i'll prioritize that Stars Replayer option for the next release
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04-27-2015 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
On another note, i'm not sure if its been mentioned before, but I'll try to describe a small bug i've found. If i click the hotkey to "keep table in grid" then "ignore table", the table moves to my ignored tables slot as it should. When I click the "ignore table" hotkey again to stop ignoring, the table moves to my new tables slot. At this point it's stuck there until i manually move it back into the grid. The "keep table in grid" hotkey also doesnt work on it again until i've manually moved the table to the grid.

Ideally when I stop ignoring the table it should either be added back as normal new table or be added back to the grid to stay there. I think as is, SaT gets confused and does something in between
confirmed, will be fixed in next release
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04-27-2015 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
1. Using the "after entering pot" tile-mode, sometimes tables get moved into the designated slot after i take action without actually activating the call/bet button.
causing me to need to hover the table to click the button once more.
happens every now and then, dunno what causes this.

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Originally Posted by greg nice
The only relevant setting is in Advanced Options for "Left mouse click detection". You have that turned on which is correct, that is how SaT will detect the mouse clicks within the button ranges.

If the table is moving into the grid, then that means that SaT has detected a click within a button region. But you say the button itself isn't being clicked, which means PokerStars isn't registering the click.

Probably this is happening when you are playing a decent amount of tables and clicking around fast. My guess is one of two scenarios is happening, and I would like you to test both. Open up just one table and put the table in the stack. Then when its your turn to act, try clicking very slowly and deliberately on Call or Bet. The table should correctly move into the grid. This is the normal case.

Now, there are two edge cases. Put the table back into the stack, and wait for your turn to act. First, click DOWN on Call/Bet and hold the click down. Stars should highlight the button somehow to visually indicate the button is down. But then while still holding the click down, move your mouse outside of the button, and then release. In this case, Stars should NOT register the click, since when you RELEASED the click, your mouse location was outside the button. Test that and see if SaT incorrectly moves the table into the grid.
Stars works as you described and SaT does not move the Table into the grid.

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Next, test the opposite. Click down OUTSIDE of the buttons, hold the click down, and then move the mouse over the button, and release the click while over the button. And see what happens with both Stars and SaT.
Stars does not register the click but SaT does and puts the table into the grid, which i assume causes the problem.

on another note: using AHK scripts (TimeOut Helper) won't interfere with SaT and vice versa right?
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04-27-2015 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Next, test the opposite. Click down OUTSIDE of the buttons, hold the click down, and then move the mouse over the button, and release the click while over the button. And see what happens with both Stars and SaT.
Stars does not register the click but SaT does and puts the table into the grid, which i assume causes the problem.
Yep we've found it. For now you'll just need to be more deliberate with your clicks until I get this fixed.

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Originally Posted by MatteoBounce
on another note: using AHK scripts (TimeOut Helper) won't interfere with SaT and vice versa right?
Shouldn't. Unless of course the scripts are trying to fight with each other and perform the same actions
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04-27-2015 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Yep we've found it. For now you'll just need to be more deliberate with your clicks until I get this fixed.
which will be in the next version release soon
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04-27-2015 , 11:46 PM
awesome, thanks
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05-01-2015 , 01:05 PM
thanks as always for the quick responses and updates. fwiw i didnt get any notification when I opened SaT today and wouldn't know to update if i didnt follow this thread
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05-01-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
thanks as always for the quick responses and updates. fwiw i didnt get any notification when I opened SaT today and wouldn't know to update if i didnt follow this thread
Hrmmm thats strange. I don't see anything wrong there. I re-installed the old version 2.77 from the download page and I'm getting the popup. Maybe you had a test version installed or something
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05-01-2015 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\

On another note, i'm not sure if its been mentioned before, but I'll try to describe a small bug i've found. If i click the hotkey to "keep table in grid" then "ignore table", the table moves to my ignored tables slot as it should. When I click the "ignore table" hotkey again to stop ignoring, the table moves to my new tables slot. At this point it's stuck there until i manually move it back into the grid. The "keep table in grid" hotkey also doesnt work on it again until i've manually moved the table to the grid.
this still isnt working right. if i'm keeping a tournament table on the grid, if i get moved to a new table, it gets taken off the grid and moved to my "new tables" slot and i have to manually move it back. the same thing happens if i'm at a final table and teh "i'm ready" box comes up during break
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05-01-2015 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
this still isnt working right. if i'm keeping a tournament table on the grid, if i get moved to a new table, it gets taken off the grid and moved to my "new tables" slot and i have to manually move it back. the same thing happens if i'm at a final table and teh "i'm ready" box comes up during break
Does the previous table get closed and a new table window get created on the table change? If so, then yes thats gonna happen since its an entirely new window

I've never seen the "I'm ready" box for the final tables, if you can take a screenshot when it happens that would help
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05-01-2015 , 07:12 PM
No, the table stays in the same window. SaT treats the table weird too, like it remembers that i'm keeping it in the grid, but it's not in my grid. So I can't just click the button to add the table back to grid. I have to manually move it back, then make sure the table underneath it gets moved back to the stack.

i cant find a screenshot of the i'm ready button right now, but it goes in the same spot as the "i'm back" button when you're sitting out.

I'm using the new option for stars tables to need to show "logged in" to be detected if that makes a difference
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05-02-2015 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
No, the table stays in the same window. SaT treats the table weird too, like it remembers that i'm keeping it in the grid, but it's not in my grid. So I can't just click the button to add the table back to grid. I have to manually move it back, then make sure the table underneath it gets moved back to the stack.

i cant find a screenshot of the i'm ready button right now, but it goes in the same spot as the "i'm back" button when you're sitting out.

I'm using the new option for stars tables to need to show "logged in" to be detected if that makes a difference
Hrmmmm.... when you get moved to a new table, does the "Logged In as" disappear from the title bar and then reappear? That could cause SaT to think the table was gone and then when that text reappears, then SaT thinks its New again..
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