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05-03-2020 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
I've already skyped you but thought I'd post my questions here as well if you'd rather answer here and then it may help other users out as well.

Question one is regards to the above statement. Is selecting "move to grid = never" in stackandtile mode basically the same thing as playing stacked? If this is selected will the most urgent table just jump to the top of the stack rather than being moved to the grid? Are there any differences here compared to just playing in "stack" mode normally?
No difference. Using the "Stack" only Play Mode simply presets the other New/Old Tables slots, whereas using "Stack and Tile" allows you to configure those

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Just went to the website and found my answer to my first question and it does play similar to stack mode. However, currently in stackandtile mode it's set to avoid moving tables to the top of the stack when mouse is hovered over the stack. Will this not cause an issue with a player playing this way? You'd be forced to move your mouse away from the stack just so new tables would be able to be moved to the top.
Not sure what you mean... if Move To Grid = Never, then mouse hovering over the stack shouldn't prevent other tables from popping up. The only thing that was added was in 2.99.00, where tables won't move OUT of the stack and INTO the grid, if your mouse was hovering over the table in the stack. Moving tables out of the stack would require one of the other Move To Grid settings, not "Never". Maybe I'm misunderstanding you

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Question two is regards to the way WPN tables load. In my setup the stack slot and new tables slot are the same slot. WPN tables seem to load outside of those predefined coordinates, are resized, and then they are moved into that slot. If there is no way to have them directly loaded into that slot is there some way to have them load and resized in the coordinates of my choice? maybe offscreen if possible? Sometimes they seem to load directly over one of my grid slots.
All tables of all sites are first resized by SAT and then moved into the New Tables Slot... so the behavior you're describing shouldn't be limited to WPN. Wherever they are initially opened is due to the randomness that the poker client uses. Some clients open the tables in the last spot that they remember. I suppose I could add an option to first move the table off screen, then resize, then move back to New Tables Slot.. i'm just not sure how useful that would be. is the problem that the new tables are blocking your view?
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05-03-2020 , 07:19 PM
What happens when I want to change the size of the tables. Do I have to create a new layout and add the sites again?

And also I use RButton for fold. Works good but only on 888 it always asks me if I want to check or fold. On all the other sites I can click fold when I want to check. Is that possible for 888 as well, did I miss something?
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05-03-2020 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
What happens when I want to change the size of the tables. Do I have to create a new layout and add the sites again?
Yes exactly. Each table size will have slightly different colors for the buttons and so SAT needs to grab the new colors for each size

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And also I use RButton for fold. Works good but only on 888 it always asks me if I want to check or fold. On all the other sites I can click fold when I want to check. Is that possible for 888 as well, did I miss something?
I just tested it and it worked for me every time except once. I do notice that the popup is a little slower to show on 888, and perhaps SAT needs to delay longer to wait for 888 to show it. Can you try this:

Click File->Current Layout
Scroll down to the 888PokerNew settings
Add this line next to the others:
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888PokerNew_included_checkorfoldpopup_appearance_delay=200
Save the file, close out SAT completely, reopen, Test and let me know if its any better. If not, try it again, this time going up to 250, and let me know
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05-04-2020 , 02:32 AM
Laptop is a little slow with all the clients open and HM2 running...so that might do the trick. I will let you know after my next session.
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05-04-2020 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
Laptop is a little slow with all the clients open and HM2 running...so that might do the trick. I will let you know after my next session.
Yeah thats likely the issue then. 888 shows that popup much slower than other sites, and so SAT has to delay a little longer. You can increase that delay as long as you want (its in milliseconds), but the tradeoff is that when you aren't checking for free, the Fold hotkey will feel a little slower, because its waiting to see if the popup appears or not.
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05-04-2020 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Yeah thats likely the issue then. 888 shows that popup much slower than other sites, and so SAT has to delay a little longer. You can increase that delay as long as you want (its in milliseconds), but the tradeoff is that when you aren't checking for free, the Fold hotkey will feel a little slower, because its waiting to see if the popup appears or not.
It was way better now...popup only came every 50 hands or so...can live with that. Had the problem that every once in a while when I used the fold auto hotkey (right mouse button) right before I made the click another table came up and it folded the wrong hand. Kinda sucks but over a three hour session it was maybe 10-15 times. I also blame my computer/laptop for that. Playing on 3 sites with 100% CPU-Usage all the time. So pretty sure the delay/mix up is happening cause the laptop cant handle the hands like its supposed to do. Although I'm kinda surprised the WPN needs so much CPU-Usage. Always thought 888 is bad but WPN really sucks that way.
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05-05-2020 , 01:46 PM
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It was way better now...popup only came every 50 hands or so...can live with that.
what setting did you end up using?

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Had the problem that every once in a while when I used the fold auto hotkey (right mouse button) right before I made the click another table came up and it folded the wrong hand. Kinda sucks but over a three hour session it was maybe 10-15 times. I also blame my computer/laptop for that. Playing on 3 sites with 100% CPU-Usage all the time. So pretty sure the delay/mix up is happening cause the laptop cant handle the hands like its supposed to do.
Yeah that isnt good and really shouldn't be happening.. perhaps the computer slowdown is the culprit.

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Although I'm kinda surprised the WPN needs so much CPU-Usage. Always thought 888 is bad but WPN really sucks that way.
WPN and Bodog are the absolute worst offenders in terms of resources, because their new software is based on Google Chrome, which uses a shitload of memory and cpu
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05-05-2020 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what setting did you end up using?
Just 200...it worked perfectly the most of the session but got a little worse at the end...I will keep it in mind for the next few sessions and maybe make it 250 or 300. Thanks so far.
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05-07-2020 , 05:36 AM
hello this is about gg network specifially bestpoker skin

anyone else with 'bet x bb' hotkeys min opening or min raising instead of using the set amount? sometimes it opens 3x sometimes min raises, when I try to 12bb raise for 3bets it'll sometimes do it and sometimes min raise.

Also the bet % isn't working either - fails every time - is this related to the way the settings are set up for where the percentage buttons are placed on the table?

do we use ggnetwork or ggnetworknew?
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05-07-2020 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
hello this is about gg network specifially bestpoker skin

anyone else with 'bet x bb' hotkeys min opening or min raising instead of using the set amount? sometimes it opens 3x sometimes min raises, when I try to 12bb raise for 3bets it'll sometimes do it and sometimes min raise.
The "Bet x BB" hotkey depends on reading the blind amount from the table title bar. And then it will calculate based on that. Therefore, this won't calculate correctly if you are displaying your stacks in BBs. It will only work if you're displaying in Chip amounts.

I don't like that you say 'sometimes' because that means sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. Also, bugs like these are the reason to not use the "also click bet" option, so that you can review and visually confirm the bet amount before actually sending it to the table.

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Also the bet % isn't working either - fails every time - is this related to the way the settings are set up for where the percentage buttons are placed on the table?
GG recently put out an update and added a 4th betsize button, where previously they only had 3. I have an update and will be releasing it soon. For now you can download this version 2.99.06w here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...tup-29906w.exe

Make sure the 4th betsize button is set to "full 100% pot" in the client

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do we use ggnetwork or ggnetworknew?
GGNetworkNew usually. The other one will likely fail to Include the site
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05-07-2020 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
The "Bet x BB" hotkey depends on reading the blind amount from the table title bar. And then it will calculate based on that. Therefore, this won't calculate correctly if you are displaying your stacks in BBs. It will only work if you're displaying in Chip amounts.

I don't like that you say 'sometimes' because that means sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. Also, bugs like these are the reason to not use the "also click bet" option, so that you can review and visually confirm the bet amount before actually sending it to the table.


GG recently put out an update and added a 4th betsize button, where previously they only had 3. I have an update and will be releasing it soon. For now you can download this version 2.99.06w here:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...tup-29906w.exe

Make sure the 4th betsize button is set to "full 100% pot" in the client


GGNetworkNew usually. The other one will likely fail to Include the site
maybe it has something to do with the fact the tables slightly overlap and the title bar get's lost sometimes?

when I say sometimes it's what I mean lol - like it's totally random when it works and when it doesn't - at least it seems that way.

I need the auto click bet option bc I do 10k hands a day 4 tabling fast for 10 or 11 hours. That's close to 300k hands a month. So anything to take away extra finger movements is a godsend bc it prevents further hand pains.

thanks for the reply I'll try some things and report back.
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05-07-2020 , 03:12 PM
that download link you gave me worked great I'll let you know if any problems happen. Thanks
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05-07-2020 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
that download link you gave me worked great I'll let you know if any problems happen. Thanks
ok keep me updated
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05-07-2020 , 09:39 PM
OK. xbb worked 95% of the time the first 4 hours and then last 2 hours rarely worked. Why would it start to fail after time goes by?

% pot worked mostly but one time it sent me all in LOL and sometimes it the bet box looks like it's doin sometihn but then tosses out a min bet.

fwiw when I grinded PS I pretty much never had any problems over 300k hands. So I'm hoping we can get to that same level for GG

Last edited by p0ker_n00b; 05-07-2020 at 09:50 PM.
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05-07-2020 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
OK. xbb worked 95% of the time the first 4 hours and then last 2 hours rarely worked. Why would it start to fail after time goes by?
doesn't make any sense to me, unless maybe you were playing tournaments, and the blind levels go so large that SAT could not detect them anymore... that's why i suggested you paste me the Diagnostic->Get Window Title, info when it fails

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% pot worked mostly but one time it sent me all in LOL and sometimes it the bet box looks like it's doin sometihn but then tosses out a min bet.
i understand you want to save clicks but really its best to visually confirm the amount. the bet%pot hotkeys have to do all of these steps: 1. click the full pot preset betsize button on the table, 2. click the betbox and select all and copy the value, 3. calculate the % based on the full pot value that was copied, 4. clear the betbox and send the new calculated bet... so thats why you see all the stuff going on inside the betbox
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05-07-2020 , 11:50 PM
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05-08-2020 , 01:00 AM
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yeah thats correct... so all of these problems happen on cash games?
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05-08-2020 , 01:03 AM
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yeah thats correct... so all of these problems happen on cash games?
4 tabling rush, yes - none of the tables overlap now either - I created a new layout so they all fit perfectly on the screen. I also have the 4th button as 100% pot.
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05-08-2020 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
4 tabling rush, yes - none of the tables overlap now either - I created a new layout so they all fit perfectly on the screen. I also have the 4th button as 100% pot.
hmmmm very strange, i dont know why it would start failing after a few hours.. can you keep an eye on it, and let me know if it happens again? see if you can notice any other consistency as to when it happens
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05-08-2020 , 09:15 AM
So there is a way to use Stack and tile for poker bros..

even though not built into the software?

if so man i want to try this

how do i get notification when u reply to this ?

is there abutton for that?
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05-08-2020 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyBony824
So there is a way to use Stack and tile for poker bros..

even though not built into the software?

if so man i want to try this

how do i get notification when u reply to this ?

is there abutton for that?
i replied to your PM also, i know one player has gotten it working by running PokerBros inside an android emulator on Windows, and then choosing "Other" from the sites drop down menu in SAT, and going through the custom site creator wizard. so you could try that
https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/hel...-site-tutorial

i dont know if 2+2 has a notification system when someone replies or quotes you..
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05-09-2020 , 11:53 PM
hey man, i play blitz on wpn and can't get the "fold now" button to work before it's my turn to act. the mouse flits to the correct location and even appears to lightly tap the button, but it doesn't actually fold. it will fold if it's actually my turn though. any idea what's causing that?
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05-10-2020 , 12:09 AM
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hey man, i play blitz on wpn and can't get the "fold now" button to work before it's my turn to act. the mouse flits to the correct location and even appears to lightly tap the button, but it doesn't actually fold. it will fold if it's actually my turn though. any idea what's causing that?
WPN updated caused it.. i havent published the latest version of SAT yet, but you can download a dev version here:

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/...tup-29906y.exe

remove and re-include WinningPoker. let me know if it works
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05-11-2020 , 11:26 AM
I just downloaded your program, but not really sure how to use it at the moment. Right now, I'm thinking what I'd like to be able to do is play 9 tables on my 4K monitor. I'm thinking of having 3 or 4 active slots and 5 or 6 slots for tables which don't urgently require action. I don't plan on stacking tables. I'm guessing this is possible, but just want to check?
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05-11-2020 , 11:34 AM
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I just downloaded your program, but not really sure how to use it at the moment. Right now, I'm thinking what I'd like to be able to do is play 9 tables on my 4K monitor. I'm thinking of having 3 or 4 active slots and 5 or 6 slots for tables which don't urgently require action. I don't plan on stacking tables. I'm guessing this is possible, but just want to check?
The "Stack and Tile" mode keeps all tables that don't require action in one stack slot, and then moves tables that do require action into all of the other slots. And typically, the table does not get moved back to the stack slot until you Fold the hand.

If I understand you correctly, you want tables to move between two separate 'groups of slots'? Where Group1 for example is 3 slots of tables requiring action, and Group2 is 6 slots of tables not requiring action? And then, when a table in Group2 requires action, it moves into one of the free slots in Group1? When would a table move back into Group1? When you Fold? Or when you are finished acting on that particular decision? If this is what you want, SAT does not do this. But its an interesting idea worth considering. But I don't know how useful it is... because the inactive slots with tables that don't require action will be shifting around... the tables won't remain stable in a specific slot, so you don't get the benefit of typically Tiling mode where you can always focus on a table based on its locked position on screen

Also if you are using multiple monitors with different scaling %s, you'll want to see the website Help->FAQ->Win10fix page
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