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11-03-2014 , 11:02 AM
Hrmm. Ok. Let me know. I can't reproduce it. The thing is, the hotkey should only be sending the clicks to one specific table. Either the first or the second, but not both. Maybe your new keyboard driver has increased the keypress repeat speed, so if you think you are only pressing the key once and releasing, perhaps the new drivers are repeating the press during the time you've held it down, and therefore maybe two presses are getting sent back to back. You can try slowing this down in the Control Panel
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11-04-2014 , 12:25 AM
Issue with Stars tables upon loading into the tiled slot.

What happens is every time a new Stars table is loaded into a slot all the other Star's tables sort of graphically freeze up. If I click anywhere inside the other Star's tables they appear normal again.

It's a very strange problem and I did recently upgrade my graphics driver. It doesn't happen to the tables on the other sites. Was just curious if any other people have experienced this problem or know what might be causing it.

In case I'm not explaining it right. It's almost as if I have a real table behind a frozen freeze frame of that same table in the slot. If I click on the frozen freeze frame the real table re-appears again and everything is normal. If I forget to click on the frozen freeze frame I'll time out at that table and that action will cause the real table to re-appear.

Hope that makes sense.
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11-04-2014 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
Issue with Stars tables upon loading into the tiled slot.

What happens is every time a new Stars table is loaded into a slot all the other Star's tables sort of graphically freeze up. If I click anywhere inside the other Star's tables they appear normal again.

It's a very strange problem and I did recently upgrade my graphics driver. It doesn't happen to the tables on the other sites. Was just curious if any other people have experienced this problem or know what might be causing it.

In case I'm not explaining it right. It's almost as if I have a real table behind a frozen freeze frame of that same table in the slot. If I click on the frozen freeze frame the real table re-appears again and everything is normal. If I forget to click on the frozen freeze frame I'll time out at that table and that action will cause the real table to re-appear.

Hope that makes sense.
Very strange. I believe I understand you correctly. But what do you mean when you say a "new table is loaded into a slot"? Do you mean when you open up a table and SaT detects it as a New Table and moves it to your New Tables Slot? Or do you mean when SaT moves a table from the stack to the grid?

Honestly it sounds more like a computer issue than an SaT issue. Did it just start after upgrading your graphics driver? Are you able to downgrade and test again? Also, are you running other software when this happens? Please turn off your tracker such as PT/HEM and test with just SaT running and see if it happens. Maybe your computer is struggling to draw the HUD?
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11-04-2014 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ozziwar
im using the built in

its both button and checkbox, i can repreduce it very easy, its just to fold on one table and fast hover over the other table
I would like you to confirm a few things:

1. Are you using "Fold" hotkey or "Fold+Stack"?

2. When this happens, does the first table require your action? Or not yet, and the adv action checkboxes are visible? My hunch is that this bug will only occur when the first table that you try your Fold hotkey on, is a table that doesn't yet require action, but only the checkboxes are visible. If you can easily reproduce it, please test both ways:
- by pressing your hotkey on a table with the checkbox visible, and then quickly moving mouse to another table
- by pressing your hotkey on a table with the acutal fold button visible, and then quickly moving to another table.

3. Finally, can you switch to another theme in Stars and SaT, and test and see if it happens? (But stay in PS7)

4. Is this on zoom tables only? Can you test on regular tables too?

Last edited by greg nice; 11-04-2014 at 02:15 PM.
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11-04-2014 , 02:41 PM
SaT doesnt work with ftp uk

whenever i try to re include it (F9 on the table) i get the error messagt:

Failure:

Full tilts new (?) table names

doesnt match for this site
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11-04-2014 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitti Vitti
SaT doesnt work with ftp uk

whenever i try to re include it (F9 on the table) i get the error messagt:

Failure:

Full tilts new (?) table names

doesnt match for this site
Click on the menu Help->Diagnostic->Get Window Title
Do that for the new lobby and paste me the results and I'll get working on an update.
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11-04-2014 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
I would like you to confirm a few things:

1. Are you using "Fold" hotkey or "Fold+Stack"?

2. When this happens, does the first table require your action? Or not yet, and the adv action checkboxes are visible? My hunch is that this bug will only occur when the first table that you try your Fold hotkey on, is a table that doesn't yet require action, but only the checkboxes are visible. If you can easily reproduce it, please test both ways:
- by pressing your hotkey on a table with the checkbox visible, and then quickly moving mouse to another table
- by pressing your hotkey on a table with the acutal fold button visible, and then quickly moving to another table.

3. Finally, can you switch to another theme in Stars and SaT, and test and see if it happens? (But stay in PS7)

4. Is this on zoom tables only? Can you test on regular tables too?
I have solved it kind of, it's my gaming keyboard, idk why but if I press another mode on the keyboard it suddenly works.
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11-04-2014 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
Click on the menu Help->Diagnostic->Get Window Title
Do that for the new lobby and paste me the results and I'll get working on an update.
thanks!

pmed you
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11-04-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ozziwar
I have solved it kind of, it's my gaming keyboard, idk why but if I press another mode on the keyboard it suddenly works.
I'm not sure if its solved. I got another report from another user as well, who also uses PS7. Starting in v2.69, SaT does send two clicks, but only when action isn't required. Thats why I asked if it only happens when the original table that you're trying to fold is when the advance action checkboxes are visible. But, he reverted to v2.68, where SaT only sends one click, and he said he's still getting it. So who knows yet.

SaT sends two clicks when action isn't required, because Stars has two separate checkboxes, one for Fold and one for Check/Fold, and they are in different locations. Initially I was just gonna remove the second click, but that would put it back to v2.68 functionality, and I'm not sure if that fixes it.

Please keep me updated and let me know if you notice it again.
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11-05-2014 , 08:58 AM
Ok I'll keep you updated if I get the problem again, I will answear the questions above if they help you.

1. Fold+Stack
2. I belive both
4. Only played SNGs and MTTs
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11-06-2014 , 10:58 AM
Also just noticed that a satellite tournament I'm playing on Stars don't get picked up by the grid. "The hot $33 sat: $6.60 NLHE turbo 10 seats gtd" (tournament: 1026343867)
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11-06-2014 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ozziwar
Also just noticed that a satellite tournament I'm playing on Stars don't get picked up by the grid. "The hot $33 sat: $6.60 NLHE turbo 10 seats gtd" (tournament: 1026343867)
SaT is thinking this is a $33 tournament instead of a $6.60
I'll see if I can fix the detection for the Small version of SaT. It's hard, because for every other tournament title, the first amount is the buy-in. But on this tournament its backwards. So don't know if its possible without breaking other stuff

Can you use the Help menu -> Diagnostic on this table to grab me the exact table title?

and thanks for sending your config file

Last edited by greg nice; 11-06-2014 at 11:56 AM.
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11-06-2014 , 05:58 PM
I'll do it if I play that satellite agian
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11-10-2014 , 12:45 AM
I realize Revolution is not guaranteed to work with SaT.

Is there anything I can do to make the tables stack? Currently they stay in the grid. Figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

I like your product. Thanks for your time.
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11-10-2014 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by QuietAmerican
I realize Revolution is not guaranteed to work with SaT.

Is there anything I can do to make the tables stack? Currently they stay in the grid. Figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

I like your product. Thanks for your time.
It depends what you're trying to do. If you want them to go into the stack, and then pop out into the grid when its your turn to act, then probably not. The reason that they are probably staying in grid is because SaT isn't able to scan the tables correctly, and therefore it thinks that the tables ALWAYS require your action. If you somehow got them to stay in the stack, then they would probably never pop up, because SaT would then think they never require action.

So for now, things don't look good. I believe some users said that they just leave the occasional Revolution table in the grid, and keep the site included in SaT so that they can use their hotkeys consistently across all sites.
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11-10-2014 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
It depends what you're trying to do. If you want them to go into the stack, and then pop out into the grid when its your turn to act, then probably not. The reason that they are probably staying in grid is because SaT isn't able to scan the tables correctly, and therefore it thinks that the tables ALWAYS require your action. If you somehow got them to stay in the stack, then they would probably never pop up, because SaT would then think they never require action.

So for now, things don't look good. I believe some users said that they just leave the occasional Revolution table in the grid, and keep the site included in SaT so that they can use their hotkeys consistently across all sites.
This was exactly it. Thanks for the quick response and explanation. It's not too terrible an inconvenience.
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12-17-2014 , 11:31 AM
I've having an issue with bovada right now. It was working for me about a week ago, but today i change my height and width for my layout because i wanted the tables a bit bigger. However, then when i went to start SnT my tables resizes but it keeps cycling through the tables and moving my mouse cursor to the lower right corner of the tables, almost as if stuck on an infinite resizing loop. I went into bovada settings and turned pop to front, but that didn't help.
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12-17-2014 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Warder
I've having an issue with bovada right now. It was working for me about a week ago, but today i change my height and width for my layout because i wanted the tables a bit bigger. However, then when i went to start SnT my tables resizes but it keeps cycling through the tables and moving my mouse cursor to the lower right corner of the tables, almost as if stuck on an infinite resizing loop. I went into bovada settings and turned pop to front, but that didn't help.
Did you re-Include the site? You probably need to do that. During Include Site setup, SaT attempts to resize the table to your grid slot size, and then allows the poker client to scale itself to its own proportions. SaT then saves that size and uses it.
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12-22-2014 , 09:33 PM
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12-29-2014 , 05:32 PM
I play heads up with 2 screens and I dont want to put all tables to one stack. I would like to organize all opening tables so I can see them all and it stay still (4-6 tables). In heads up the game is a lot about playing the spesific player and if it always goes to stack its hard to remember who is the loose, whos the nitty etc. I do have hem but its easier to memorize that kind of stuff by their place in my screen. So I want new tables to organize automatically to my 2nd screen so opening tables dont get lost behind pdf, charts etc that I have open at my 1st screen. Is this possible?
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12-29-2014 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RegRaper
I play heads up with 2 screens and I dont want to put all tables to one stack. I would like to organize all opening tables so I can see them all and it stay still (4-6 tables). In heads up the game is a lot about playing the spesific player and if it always goes to stack its hard to remember who is the loose, whos the nitty etc. I do have hem but its easier to memorize that kind of stuff by their place in my screen. So I want new tables to organize automatically to my 2nd screen so opening tables dont get lost behind pdf, charts etc that I have open at my 1st screen. Is this possible?
Just use the "Tile only" play mode, and organize your grid slots using the Visualize Grid button. I believe that should do what you are asking
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12-29-2014 , 07:18 PM
Oo I see it works now very well. But one thing annoys me is that this program auto pop up tables even though I have set all sites to not pop up tables. I cant find any way to put it off.

EDIT: found it! ty
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12-30-2014 , 07:55 PM
Hi - I tried StackAndTile for the first time today.

I managed to get it to work OK, but I had one problem. It seemed that on my FTP tables, if I was in the BB and the pot was limped to me, my table would not move out of the stack and into the grid (using default setting of moving tables when action is required). This was pretty frustrating, as it meant I would post the BB, time-out pre-flop, and then instantly fold to any post flop bets without that chance to act, and then sit out. I'd only realise that this had occured once these 'dead' tables appeared in the grid.

Is this a known problem? Is there a fix?
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12-30-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ontheupandup
Hi - I tried StackAndTile for the first time today.

I managed to get it to work OK, but I had one problem. It seemed that on my FTP tables, if I was in the BB and the pot was limped to me, my table would not move out of the stack and into the grid (using default setting of moving tables when action is required). This was pretty frustrating, as it meant I would post the BB, time-out pre-flop, and then instantly fold to any post flop bets without that chance to act, and then sit out. I'd only realise that this had occured once these 'dead' tables appeared in the grid.

Is this a known problem? Is there a fix?
Not a known problem, and not supposed to happen. I just tested it and it worked for me. Are you using the built-in "FullTiltPoker" site, or did you do a custom site setup? Are you playing on any other sites? Do you have an abnormal table size?

SaT looks for the visibility of the "fold" button to determine if action is required. On FTP, when everyone limps and you can check for free, FTP actually doesn't even give you the option to fold by not displaying the button (whereas on other sites you will see both Fold and Check buttons, and if you click Fold, you will get a popup asking if you are sure you want to fold for free). However, even though so there is only a "check" button on FTP and no "fold" button in this specific instance, FTP actually displays the "check" button in the first of three button positions. So in fact, it is in the same location as the "fold" button. And since SaT determines the buttons based on location, it should pick up that button and determine that action is required. Thats the technical details. Long way of saying that it is supposed to work.
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