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11-08-2012 , 04:06 PM
yes, or changing these two lines in your custom ftp .ini file in the /Sites/ subdirectory:

Code:
table_exclude_title_text=Full Tilt Poker
table_include_title_text=Logged In As
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11-10-2012 , 12:11 PM
all features of SAT seem to work for me on full tilt, except table popping into grid when there is action.

i.e. tables take hotkeys, they can be sent from stack to grid manually via 'keep table in grid', they can be sent from grid to stack via 'fold and stack' hotkey, etc

but pending action is never recognized and tables are not moved from stack to grid automatically. they just stay in the stack as if i'm sitting out or observing


thanks
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11-12-2012 , 04:21 PM
party tables have stopped popping for me in the last couple days. I use party modern default theme. hu tables in case that matters.

I'm going to try a few themes and see if I can get one to work. friend of mine is having the same problem.
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11-12-2012 , 08:42 PM
ftp tables just pop up over everything else when i have them stacked (with stars, fr + party)
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11-13-2012 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jabracada
ftp tables just pop up over everything else when i have them stacked (with stars, fr + party)
you realize that if you're sitting out on the full tilt tables, SaT will think that action is required and pop tables to the top?

all of those "Deal Me In", and "Play Now" buttons are all the same blue color and in the same location as the Fold button, so SaT thinks that the Fold button is visible.
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11-13-2012 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
you realize that if you're sitting out on the full tilt tables, SaT will think that action is required and pop tables to the top?

all of those "Deal Me In", and "Play Now" buttons are all the same blue color and in the same location as the Fold button, so SaT thinks that the Fold button is visible.
it isn't to do with this as I didn't time out once in my session yesterday
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11-15-2012 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by APXG
all features of SAT seem to work for me on full tilt, except table popping into grid when there is action.

i.e. tables take hotkeys, they can be sent from stack to grid manually via 'keep table in grid', they can be sent from grid to stack via 'fold and stack' hotkey, etc

but pending action is never recognized and tables are not moved from stack to grid automatically. they just stay in the stack as if i'm sitting out or observing


thanks
the settings are old obviously. i hope to have a new version out soon that you can try. can you remove FTP from SaT, then select 'Other' from the drop down and go through the wizard, and then include your custom site, and see if that works?

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Originally Posted by Jabracada
ftp tables just pop up over everything else when i have them stacked (with stars, fr + party)
you're sure you turned off the setting in the ftp client?
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/full-tilt-poker
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11-15-2012 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dotbum
party tables have stopped popping for me in the last couple days. I use party modern default theme. hu tables in case that matters.

I'm going to try a few themes and see if I can get one to work. friend of mine is having the same problem.
hrmm yeah another guy reported it on the forum too. maybe they changed their layout or something? what Scan Mode are you using in Adv Opts?
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11-16-2012 , 07:11 PM
DWM

I got it working with party classic but would appreciate a fix as the bet slider is awful on it! :P
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11-17-2012 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dotbum
DWM

I got it working with party classic but would appreciate a fix as the bet slider is awful on it! :P
I just helped a user, he was using Modern table layout with the Orange theme which won't work. Can you try the Yellow or Dark themes on PartyModern, and then remove and re-include in SaT?

then let me know
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11-18-2012 , 09:09 AM
Is StackAndTile going to apply betting option anytime soon? It's pretty costly for just stacking for a uNL player, especially now that I'm playing Rush.
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11-18-2012 , 09:16 AM
what do you mean by 'betting option' ?
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11-18-2012 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
what do you mean by 'betting option' ?
Bet x of pot? Etc...fold and call are pretty nice, but there's only one bet option and its not really useful since its either a minbet or minraise.
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11-18-2012 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SawyerAnthony
Bet x of pot? Etc...fold and call are pretty nice, but there's only one bet option and its not really useful since its either a minbet or minraise.
SaT is not meant to be a BetPot/hotkey program. it is designed to be a table manager. there are other software such as TableNinja that do that job pretty well already

however

i was recently considering adding hotkeys to click the three buttons in the client. by default they are "min, pot, max" however within the fulltilt settings you can change those to something like 50% pot, 70% pot, 100% pot. but i am unsure if i want to add these or not since it violates the purpose of the software.

i am curious about peoples opinions tho
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11-19-2012 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
I just helped a user, he was using Modern table layout with the Orange theme which won't work. Can you try the Yellow or Dark themes on PartyModern, and then remove and re-include in SaT?

then let me know
hi greg, thanks for the help. I got party modern yellow theme working

I feel kind of dumb for not seeing it before, but at hu tables we want tables to pop when the post blind/sit in button shows. I unchecked the 3 color button option in advanced > table options so that that button matched the fold button color.

once I removed and readded it in snt, everything worked fine.
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11-19-2012 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dotbum
hi greg, thanks for the help. I got party modern yellow theme working

I feel kind of dumb for not seeing it before, but at hu tables we want tables to pop when the post blind/sit in button shows. I unchecked the 3 color button option in advanced > table options so that that button matched the fold button color.

once I removed and readded it in snt, everything worked fine.
great to hear

i'm glad you figured it out. thats exactly how the software works. usually, people DONT want tables to pop when those buttons show. if you do, then your change works.
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11-20-2012 , 11:24 AM
v 2.1.4

- added: Activate/Focus table when action required (1)
- added: Highlight active table
- removed: 'Activate table on move to grid'
- removed: 'Bring Urgent Tables To Top' checkbox (default always on)
- changed: send tables to bottom of stack when re-stacking is now off by default
- added: support for Full Tilt Poker updated
- added: support for WPT Poker by using the built-in Party settings
- added: hotkey to activate most urgent table
- added: hotkeys to move table to specific slot # (1, 2)
- changed: End of Hand Notification does not use the Notification Duration, but rather the EndOfHandRestackDelay
- fixed: BodogBovada update
- fixed: many bug fixes

http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/

please post feedback if the update works good

Last edited by greg nice; 11-20-2012 at 11:40 AM.
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11-21-2012 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice

v 2.1.4

- changed: send tables to bottom of stack when re-stacking is now off by default
i'm sure many people have gotten used to this "feature", see here to re-enable if you want to

also forgot to mention in previous post:
- changed: End of Hand detection is now OFF by default
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11-28-2012 , 07:23 AM
I'm having a few problems with partypoker, tables aren't resizing properly, they resize to roughly 1/2-3/4 of the size they are meant to be, and sometimes tournaments don't get recognized at all, the $33r was recognized fine and I played it through yesterday without a problem(other than the table being very small), however the $55 3k(as far as I'm aware, exactly the same table layout with rebuys/FO's on party) wasn't recognised at all. I was playing both tournaments at the same time, restarting SAT did nothing.

Edit: Also, I can't seem to get a custom site .ini to work with 32red, the table thinks action is required whenever a new hand has started, even before its my turn to act. I assume this is because of the advanced action keys having a similar button color/text as when it is my turn to act, however manually editing the .ini file's topleft/bottomright coords for the bet box doesn't work either so I'm not sure what to do here.

Lastly, it doesn't seem to recognize 'old tables.' When I first started using it, it would move all my tables to the old tables slot just before the break finished. When I set the timer from 5 minutes to 12 minutes, it stopped recognizing old tables altogether. I timed out from an ongame tournament yesterday, and found out 20 minutes later when break had finished and I realised I hadn't seen that table in a while.

Last edited by semesa; 11-28-2012 at 07:36 AM.
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11-28-2012 , 11:52 AM
man, ok, one by one

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Originally Posted by semesa
I'm having a few problems with partypoker, tables aren't resizing properly, they resize to roughly 1/2-3/4 of the size they are meant to be
does this happen for all party tables? this should really never happen. do other sites resize properly? you are certain that you are not mistaking your grid slot size?

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, and sometimes tournaments don't get recognized at all, the $33r was recognized fine and I played it through yesterday without a problem(other than the table being very small), however the $55 3k(as far as I'm aware, exactly the same table layout with rebuys/FO's on party) wasn't recognised at all. I was playing both tournaments at the same time, restarting SAT did nothing.
when you say that the table wasn't recognized, do you mean that it did not show up in SaT's table list? it was not resized and moved to your New Tables location?

or do you mean that action wasn't detected and the table wasnt popping out into grid?

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Edit: Also, I can't seem to get a custom site .ini to work with 32red, the table thinks action is required whenever a new hand has started, even before its my turn to act. I assume this is because of the advanced action keys having a similar button color/text as when it is my turn to act, however manually editing the .ini file's topleft/bottomright coords for the bet box doesn't work either so I'm not sure what to do here.
this problem is most widely known on TruePoker
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/true-poker

SaT looks for the the fold button to determine whether action is required. during Include Site setup, when you press F10, SaT grabs the fold button color, and then during play, it looks for that color. if the pre-action checkboxes are the same color as the actual fold button, then SaT will 'think' that the fold button is visible, when in reality its just the checkbox

in this case the topleft/bottomright coords are not the correct settings to change. you would be wanting to change the fold_button_x/y_coord, assuming that you are using 'fold' as the action_button. this coordinate is grabbed during the custom site wizard when it asks you to click on the fold button

so, what you would do is edit the fold_button_x/y_coord values so that the coordinate will be on the fold button, but not on the fold pre-action checkbox. its easiest for me to do this by taking two screenshots of the table, 1 when action buttons are visible and 2 when checkboxes are visible, and then seeing the coordinates where the checkbox wouldn't overlap. i can help you if you take those two screenshots

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Lastly, it doesn't seem to recognize 'old tables.' When I first started using it, it would move all my tables to the old tables slot just before the break finished. When I set the timer from 5 minutes to 12 minutes, it stopped recognizing old tables altogether. I timed out from an ongame tournament yesterday, and found out 20 minutes later when break had finished and I realised I hadn't seen that table in a while.
you can test if Old Tables are working correctly by turning on the Notification for them in Advanced Options. this will give you a little popup in the bottom right of your screen when SaT detects and Old Table.

so just open up one table, run SaT, put the table in the stack, and then sit out. wait and see if SaT detects it when the duration has elapsed. prob easier to lower the duration at first while doing the testing so you're not waiting around long.

one last thing that i just thought of, and now added to the Old Tables section of this page:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/table-types
Old Tables only start getting detected after the first action has been required. if you initially sit at a table and sit out, SaT will never see your first action that was required, so in this case, the table won't be detected as Old.

so, actually, my suggestion above should be this: open up one table, run SaT, put the table in the stack, play and wait for your first action to be required, then sit out and put the table back in the stack and see if SaT detects it as Old
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11-28-2012 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
man, ok, one by one



does this happen for all party tables? this should really never happen. do other sites resize properly? you are certain that you are not mistaking your grid slot size?
Pokerstars/iPoker/ongame tables that are running simultaneously all resize correctly, its only PP tables that don't


when you say that the table wasn't recognized, do you mean that it did not show up in SaT's table list? it was not resized and moved to your New Tables location?
Not resized, doesn't show up on list, doesn't get moved, although if I try to resize or move the window, Stack and Tile attempts to autoresize/snap back

or do you mean that action wasn't detected and the table wasnt popping out into grid?



this problem is most widely known on TruePoker
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/true-poker

SaT looks for the the fold button to determine whether action is required. during Include Site setup, when you press F10, SaT grabs the fold button color, and then during play, it looks for that color. if the pre-action checkboxes are the same color as the actual fold button, then SaT will 'think' that the fold button is visible, when in reality its just the checkbox

in this case the topleft/bottomright coords are not the correct settings to change. you would be wanting to change the fold_button_x/y_coord, assuming that you are using 'fold' as the action_button. this coordinate is grabbed during the custom site wizard when it asks you to click on the fold button

so, what you would do is edit the fold_button_x/y_coord values so that the coordinate will be on the fold button, but not on the fold pre-action checkbox. its easiest for me to do this by taking two screenshots of the table, 1 when action buttons are visible and 2 when checkboxes are visible, and then seeing the coordinates where the checkbox wouldn't overlap. i can help you if you take those two screenshots



you can test if Old Tables are working correctly by turning on the Notification for them in Advanced Options. this will give you a little popup in the bottom right of your screen when SaT detects and Old Table.

so just open up one table, run SaT, put the table in the stack, and then sit out. wait and see if SaT detects it when the duration has elapsed. prob easier to lower the duration at first while doing the testing so you're not waiting around long.

one last thing that i just thought of, and now added to the Old Tables section of this page:
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/table-types
Old Tables only start getting detected after the first action has been required. if you initially sit at a table and sit out, SaT will never see your first action that was required, so in this case, the table won't be detected as Old.

so, actually, my suggestion above should be this: open up one table, run SaT, put the table in the stack, play and wait for your first action to be required, then sit out and put the table back in the stack and see if SaT detects it as Old
Cool, I get exactly what you mean with the fold button detection, I used to write bots for some online MMO's that worked similarly. Thanks for the info!
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11-28-2012 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by semesa

Pokerstars/iPoker/ongame tables that are running simultaneously all resize correctly, its only PP tables that don't
are you able to resize Party tables when SaT is not running? i just opened Party and it forced an update. it seems when i try to resize a table with my mouse (without SaT), the table is blinking and not very smooth, although it does resize.

can you also please try removing and re-including Party as a Site in SaT and let me know the results?

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Not resized, doesn't show up on list, doesn't get moved, although if I try to resize or move the window, Stack and Tile attempts to autoresize/snap back
wow this is a first. obviously if SaT is not allowing you to resize or move the table, then it IS detecting it and acting on it. where was the table snapping back to? a particular grid slot? but it wasn't showing up in the count for Tiled Tables?

was it only one table that was acting like this, or are you able to reproduce the error?
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11-28-2012 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
are you able to resize Party tables when SaT is not running? i just opened Party and it forced an update. it seems when i try to resize a table with my mouse (without SaT), the table is blinking and not very smooth, although it does resize.

can you also please try removing and re-including Party as a Site in SaT and let me know the results?
I did this 3 or 4 times over the course of the last few days, having the same results.

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wow this is a first. obviously if SaT is not allowing you to resize or move the table, then it IS detecting it and acting on it. where was the table snapping back to? a particular grid slot? but it wasn't showing up in the count for Tiled Tables?

was it only one table that was acting like this, or are you able to reproduce the error?
It seems to be completely random. The $33r worked fine most days, the $55 1k speed, $55 3k, $109 15k work or don't work based on seemingly completely random chance. As these tournaments are pretty much in peak hour, I can't really afford to stop the program and fiddle with it while I have a bunch of tables up on multiple networks.

Funnily enough, the tables that are screwing up are also the only ones that are at the correct size. I assume its because SaT is trying, and failing, to resize them. Is there any way to stop SaT from resizing tables?

Also, when the reminder popup from partypoker gets added to the grid(I think this is already a known bug but its not a big deal for me) it resizes to the correct size I want for my party tables.
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11-28-2012 , 06:36 PM
man, this is very strange indeed

there is no way to stop SaT from resizing tables, because SaT needs to have all the tables the same size, so that when it looks for the colors, it will find them at the correct coordinates.

are you able to resize Party tables correctly when SaT is not running?

also can you send me a screenshot of the 'reminder popup' that is getting detected? that should be an easy fix

finally, can you post your SaT layout config flie for me? click on File->Current Layout and paste everything. thanks
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11-29-2012 , 07:25 AM
Code:
[settings]
table_width=900
table_height=647
total_slots=6
stack_slot=1
newtables_slot=5
move_on_street=vpip
oldtables_duration=12
oldtables_slot=grid
scan_mode=DWM
activate_most_urgent=1
highlight_active_win=1
left_click_detection=1
stack_table_at_end_of_hand=1
check_holecard_for_end_of_hand=1
minimize_to_tray=0
show_table_count_while_running=1
notify_new_tables=1
notify_old_tables=1
notify_keep_in_grid=1
notify_ignore_table=1
notify_action_required=0
notify_end_of_hand=0
notification_duration=3
table_count_gui_x=-185
table_count_gui_y=145
slot0x=200
slot0y=200
slot1x=1
slot1y=3
slot2x=901
slot2y=3
slot3x=1
slot3y=431
slot4x=901
slot4y=431
slot5x=0
slot5y=231
slot6x=901
slot6y=232
[general]
show_walkthru=0
gui_x=-32000
gui_y=-32000
last_tab=
is_reloading=1
[sites]
number_of_sites=6
included_sites=PokerStarsClassic,FullTiltPoker,iPoker,OnGame,PartyPokerModern,32red
PokerStarsClassic_included_executable_path=C:\Program Files (x86)\PokerStars\PokerStars.exe
PokerStarsClassic_included_resized_table_width=900
PokerStarsClassic_included_resized_table_height=647
PokerStarsClassic_included_hole_x_coord=511
PokerStarsClassic_included_hole_y_coord=491
PokerStarsClassic_included_fold_color=0xc3b88
PokerStarsClassic_included_call_color=0x408080
PokerStarsClassic_included_bet_color=0xc3b88
PokerStarsClassic_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0x2d5b5b
PokerStarsClassic_included_flop_x_coord=308
PokerStarsClassic_included_flop_y_coord=257
PokerStarsClassic_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x15407a
FullTiltPoker_included_executable_path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Full Tilt Poker\FullTiltPoker.exe
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_width=900
FullTiltPoker_included_resized_table_height=647
FullTiltPoker_included_hole_x_coord=459
FullTiltPoker_included_hole_y_coord=546
FullTiltPoker_included_fold_color=0x977109
FullTiltPoker_included_call_color=0x977109
FullTiltPoker_included_bet_color=0x977109
FullTiltPoker_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0xd7e0e7
FullTiltPoker_included_flop_x_coord=310
FullTiltPoker_included_flop_y_coord=315
FullTiltPoker_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x209900
iPoker_included_executable_path=C:\Poker\Titan Poker\casino.exe
iPoker_included_resized_table_width=900
iPoker_included_resized_table_height=678
iPoker_included_hole_x_coord=119
iPoker_included_hole_y_coord=450
iPoker_included_fold_color=0xd8d8d8
iPoker_included_call_color=0xd8d8d8
iPoker_included_bet_color=0xd8d8d8
iPoker_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0x1b1b1b
iPoker_included_flop_x_coord=296
iPoker_included_flop_y_coord=318
iPoker_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x1e673f
OnGame_included_executable_path=C:\bwinPoker\bwinPoker.exe
OnGame_included_resized_table_width=856
OnGame_included_resized_table_height=643
OnGame_included_hole_x_coord=391
OnGame_included_hole_y_coord=449
OnGame_included_fold_color=0xcaff
OnGame_included_call_color=0xcaff
OnGame_included_bet_color=0x161c
OnGame_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0x343434
OnGame_included_flop_x_coord=310
OnGame_included_flop_y_coord=293
OnGame_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x343535
PartyPokerModern_included_executable_path=C:\Programs\PartyGaming\PartyGaming.exe
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_width=800
PartyPokerModern_included_resized_table_height=566
PartyPokerModern_included_hole_x_coord=459
PartyPokerModern_included_hole_y_coord=336
PartyPokerModern_included_fold_color=0x914b1
PartyPokerModern_included_call_color=0xaa7f32
PartyPokerModern_included_bet_color=0xdc027
PartyPokerModern_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0x274b31
PartyPokerModern_included_flop_x_coord=246
PartyPokerModern_included_flop_y_coord=194
PartyPokerModern_included_table_color_behind_flop=0xf8030
32red_included_executable_path=C:\Microgaming\Poker\32RedMPP\MPPoker.exe
32red_included_resized_table_width=816
32red_included_resized_table_height=638
32red_included_hole_x_coord=394
32red_included_hole_y_coord=448
32red_included_fold_color=0xe0e5d
32red_included_call_color=0x13137a
32red_included_bet_color=0xf0f60
32red_included_table_color_behind_holecard=0x2badbc
32red_included_flop_x_coord=272
32red_included_flop_y_coord=262
32red_included_table_color_behind_flop=0x39903a
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=12
hotkey1action=Call
hotkey1key=2
hotkey2action=Bet
hotkey2key=3
hotkey3action=Fold + Stack table
hotkey3key=1
hotkey4action=Fold
hotkey4key=Q
hotkey5action=Activate most urgent table
hotkey5key=`
hotkey6action=Disable Hotkeys
hotkey6key=^F
hotkey7action=Keep table in grid
hotkey7key=[
hotkey8action=Move table to Next slot
hotkey8key=Right
hotkey9action=Move table to Previous slot
hotkey9key=Left
hotkey10action=Send table to bottom
hotkey10key=]
hotkey11action=Stack all tables
hotkey11key=F11
hotkey12action=Ignore table
hotkey12key=End
send_table_under_mouse=0
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