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04-14-2011 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by h_ven
So, I'm not too worried about the 1st issue anymore, I just set my stack slot to a spot I'll never use. Now I can tile fine.

But I went in and changed these numbers to this:

UltimateBetTop_included_action_x_scaled=601
UltimateBetTop_included_action_y_scaled=0

I saved the file, SaT was closed, then I re opened SaT and it's still folding on the big fold button for some reason, and still not on the pre-fold smaller button.

Not sure why it would still fold when I changed the coordinates that much. I'll try the site editor and see what I can do

those coords will just determine whether action is on you (bet button for UB). there are internal fold coordinates for the fold and fold+stack hotkeys, thats why i suggested doing a custom site config
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04-14-2011 , 12:06 PM
v 1.99.19

-re-uploaded the bugfix for including custom site action_button
-attempted to change internal UbTop fold coordinate to hit pre-fold checkbox

didn't bump the version since this is a small bugfix, that means anyone having problems will have to re-download.

and i take it there was no problems with the installer program?

let me know

Last edited by greg nice; 04-14-2011 at 12:17 PM.
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04-14-2011 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
v 1.99.19

-re-uploaded the bugfix for including custom site action_button
-attempted to change internal UbTop fold coordinate to hit pre-fold checkbox

didn't bump the version since this is a small bugfix, that means anyone having problems will have to re-download.

and i take it there was no problems with the installer program?

let me know
Thanx for replying so quickly. First of all, no problems with the installer.

Secondly, the problem has not been solved. I downloaded the new installer, reinstalled the program, did a fresh CustomSiteIniCreator, and the same error appeared. (no action_button found).

I'm sorry Hoping i'm doing something wrong.
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04-14-2011 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drivo
Thanx for replying so quickly. First of all, no problems with the installer.

Secondly, the problem has not been solved. I downloaded the new installer, reinstalled the program, did a fresh CustomSiteIniCreator, and the same error appeared. (no action_button found).

I'm sorry Hoping i'm doing something wrong.
nvm, i deleted my cache and redownloaded, reinstalled and created a new custom site, with no problems Installer works fine, error also disappeared.

Thanx again.
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04-14-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice

and i take it there was no problems with the installer program?

let me know
installer working, ub too. thnx
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04-14-2011 , 02:46 PM
You're the man Greg!
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04-14-2011 , 03:56 PM
cool guys. please stress test this version, and give feedback on the Old Tables feature too. i want to have a stable build that i can finally leave for a little and put some time into the help docs on the website
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04-14-2011 , 07:53 PM
Thanks Greg. The error has disappeared now. I will try a few sessions with it and see what happens.

Regarding the old tables feature. I play on pokerstars and when I set the old tables to close it pops up a dialog asking me if I am sure I want to close the table and requires an extra click? Maybe add an option such as tile AND close so then the half closed tables won't remain in the stack somewhere?

Also is there a way to disable the old tables feature? I guess simplest way would be just to set a ridiculously long duration.

Anyway thanks for the update. I can't believe I'm so reliant on this now. I have showed a few of my poker buddies and they all want to use it. But everytime they can't figure out how to configure it so I have to help them. Maybe that's an issue?

Keep up the good work

Edit: I should learn to read the context help D'oh!
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04-14-2011 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerash

Regarding the old tables feature. I play on pokerstars and when I set the old tables to close it pops up a dialog asking me if I am sure I want to close the table and requires an extra click? Maybe add an option such as tile AND close so then the half closed tables won't remain in the stack somewhere?
yeah that popup is a problem. i'm not really sure what to do about it. it probably happens on FTP too. if i change it to "grid+close" then the popup will be visible i guess

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Also is there a way to disable the old tables feature? I guess simplest way would be just to set a ridiculously long duration.
yeah if you set Old Tables slot = 0, nothing will happen

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Anyway thanks for the update. I can't believe I'm so reliant on this now. I have showed a few of my poker buddies and they all want to use it. But everytime they can't figure out how to configure it so I have to help them. Maybe that's an issue?
its definintely an issue. i want to get a stable version and then work on the docs and help on the website. the quick start guide on the site should get everyone up and running though. i would def like to make the setup process easier, just not sure how to do it. i'm open to suggestions

Last edited by greg nice; 04-14-2011 at 08:16 PM.
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04-14-2011 , 08:10 PM
re: UB/AP

apparently sat v 1.99.19 wont fix all the UB problems. if someone shoves on you and you cover them, the bet button isnt visible, but fold and call are. so those tables wont be detected as requiring action
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04-14-2011 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
yeah that popup is a problem. i'm not really sure what to do about it. it probably happens on FTP too. if i change it to "grid+close" then the popup will be visible i guess
How about sending an enter key press to the table that is closed. Or art least making this an option.i think this works for ps but not sure about ftp.

Regarding the setup option how about a wizard option similar to the custom site creator that takes the user through the basic steps? Maybe have a menu that is a bit simpler than the tabs e.g.

You are using layout xxx
Create/edit layouts

You are currently using sat with pokerstars, ftp etc
Add/remove poker sites

Settings

These buttons would bring up the currently available tab contents but would be easier to understand.

Just my quick thoughts
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04-14-2011 , 10:34 PM
I have the Old Tables move to a specific slot. However, if a table is already there, the two tables start flickering like crazy. Anyone else have this issue?
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04-14-2011 , 11:17 PM
I was thinking today, maybe at a PAUSE hotkey, to just pause the program. This way I can set the 'old tables' to 1 minute, and detect hotkeys fast. yet, I can just press pause when I go on break and not get annoyed with 'old tables' moving the the side.

Maybe an idea?
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04-14-2011 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerash
How about sending an enter key press to the table that is closed. Or art least making this an option.i think this works for ps but not sure about ftp.
pretty sure on ftp, the default button is NO, so if you hit enter, it takes you BACK to the table


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Regarding the setup option how about a wizard option similar to the custom site creator that takes the user through the basic steps? Maybe have a menu that is a bit simpler than the tabs e.g.

You are using layout xxx
Create/edit layouts

You are currently using sat with pokerstars, ftp etc
Add/remove poker sites

Settings

These buttons would bring up the currently available tab contents but would be easier to understand.

Just my quick thoughts
hrmm, feel free to draw up something in paint. i made the Setup Grid wizard which defines the grid, but maybe i could expand it some, just not sure. or are you suggesting one main window INSTEAD of the tabs?


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Originally Posted by bleurain
I have the Old Tables move to a specific slot. However, if a table is already there, the two tables start flickering like crazy. Anyone else have this issue?
didnt do too much testing on the specific slot thing, ill add it to my to do list to look into




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Originally Posted by rh300487
I was thinking today, maybe at a PAUSE hotkey, to just pause the program. This way I can set the 'old tables' to 1 minute, and detect hotkeys fast. yet, I can just press pause when I go on break and not get annoyed with 'old tables' moving the the side.

Maybe an idea?
a start/stop hotkey was suggested. that would turn off SaT and turn it back on. when you turn it back on, all tables will be detected as 'NEW' again (and move to grid or wherever your New tables move to). so pretty much the hotkey would act the same as the big start/stop button (also hotkeys would turn off). is this sufficient? would you like something different?
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04-15-2011 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
pretty sure on ftp, the default button is NO, so if you hit enter, it takes you BACK to the table
How about sending a sequence of keystrokes to the table after closing? Maybe tab then enter? Just a suggestion... don't know if that would work on FTP. Or maybe right arrow then enter. It might over complicate things though.

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hrmm, feel free to draw up something in paint. i made the Setup Grid wizard which defines the grid, but maybe i could expand it some, just not sure. or are you suggesting one main window INSTEAD of the tabs?
I was actually suggesting one main window and then maybe pop up windows instead. Maybe I'll try drawing something up in paint but I guess this is more for the benefit of new users. I'm fine with SaT as it is but I know beginners get lost.
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04-15-2011 , 01:25 AM
ill likely just silently implement grid+close when someone chooses the "close" option and mention it in the docs. that way the close popups will appear in grid

as for the one main window, i kinda like the idea. i def want to make this more user friendly
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04-15-2011 , 02:04 PM
some more brainstorming.. What about a checkbox

[ ] Synchronized breaks

or

[ ] MTTs

If you check it, it doesnt detect 'old' tables from :55 - :60 or :00
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04-15-2011 , 03:06 PM
SaT just tilts, 2nd time now.

it just keeps moving tables to the front without stopping. When I restart SaT, its okay again.

Tried to screen rec. it, but forgot the site you gave me earlier.
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04-15-2011 , 03:40 PM
The program looks very promising, but I have a problem.

I would like to stack and tile preflop. But I use tableninja to check AND fold with the same button (middle mouse).

If I set the S&T hotkey for fold and stack to middle mouse, I get a pop-up from stars that it's free to check (S&T it was obviously planning to fold). When I override S&T by using ~MButton as the hotkey, the folding is OK, but the table isn't being stacked upon folding. Is there some way to ge this done?
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04-15-2011 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rh300487
SaT just tilts, 2nd time now.

it just keeps moving tables to the front without stopping. When I restart SaT, its okay again.

Tried to screen rec. it, but forgot the site you gave me earlier.
Found the problem already. It is when the empty/nonactive tables are detected.. Then it needs to move them from to the side and when that are to many at the same time. it flips..
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04-16-2011 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel78
The program looks very promising, but I have a problem.

I would like to stack and tile preflop. But I use tableninja to check AND fold with the same button (middle mouse).

If I set the S&T hotkey for fold and stack to middle mouse, I get a pop-up from stars that it's free to check (S&T it was obviously planning to fold). When I override S&T by using ~MButton as the hotkey, the folding is OK, but the table isn't being stacked upon folding. Is there some way to ge this done?
youll have to turn off your TN hotkey if you want both check+fold functionality. then just use MButton within SaT, which will attempt to click 'check' on that popup in stars. are you saying that during your test, SaT didnt click that popup?



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Originally Posted by rh300487
Found the problem already. It is when the empty/nonactive tables are detected.. Then it needs to move them from to the side and when that are to many at the same time. it flips..
heres what happens. if you tried to use a stack ok only pokerstars for example, but moved an active table out of the stack for further review, that table needing action will continue until you take acction. and the stack will stay the same, with other tables needing action being hidden on the bottom, and once you take action on the table moved to the side, only then stars will pop up the next table in the stack.

what SaT does is keep the stack updated, so even if the most urgent table is in the grid, it will cycle through all the tables in the stack to make sure tables requiring action in the stack will still come to the top and not stay hidden below. sometimes when it tries to do this, it will constantly cycle while it looks for tables. usually it will sort itself out as soon as the next table in the stack requires action. but you can always just restart the program as well
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04-16-2011 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
youll have to turn off your TN hotkey if you want both check+fold functionality. then just use MButton within SaT, which will attempt to click 'check' on that popup in stars. are you saying that during your test, SaT didnt click that popup?
Not really working... If I disable this key in TN, I still get the checking is free pop-up. During the test, I only folded with F10, nothing to check the check button
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04-16-2011 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel78
Not really working... If I disable this key in TN, I still get the checking is free pop-up. During the test, I only folded with F10, nothing to check the check button
nothing will happen during the include site setup. when you are going through the Include Site, press F10 only when the fold button is there, not check.

then once the setup is complete and you are using the program, then the fold hotkey should successfully also click the check popup and act accordingly.

let me know
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04-16-2011 , 11:37 AM
Oh, then this is not working yet for me. Awaiting further tips/instructions!
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04-16-2011 , 07:21 PM
very nice software. pretty sure i will end up buying(nvm just saw this is in free section). this has really increased my productivity.

however there is one small change i would request. when using the bring urgent tables to top its not detected by table ninja. i have to click on the table manually and then it gets the green border and i know ninja got the right table.

i think this is coz u r only brinign the table to top but not doing a winactivate comman right after that. if u do this then the table has focu and ninja will detect it.

also can we have a option where the mouse is auto moved to the table thats brought to top(needs action). move the mouse near the fold bet btns but not exactly over it to prevent misclicks. even better if the user can choose where to place the mouse on a dummy table.

right now my solution to using ninja is to let stars handle the urgent tables and to turn off the table handling in SAT under advanced. the only problem with that is new tables steal focus which is the single biggest tilting thing ever.

reg the do you want to close this table dialog: ninja can close it so pretty doable. in ahk i think u can just get the height and width of the box. i dont think there is any other dialog with that exact size and which also has a ok and cancel btn. these two combined are sufficient to identify the popup. Also the first word in the title is always Table.

so you have three sets of conditions which should uniquely identify that popup and let SAT auto close it.

i can write a small script for this if u want but best if everything is integrated.
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