norton detected this as a virus...anyone confirm/deny?

i used it many times and i have still my br. it is propably a false positive

im thinking the issue with the autofold not ticking might be a table resizing issue as i tried both classic and no images and neither worked for me

the (repeating) coordinates from the 300 table layout matching the sat grid table dims are below

0,0,579,421

yep, my layout mustve had some tables that were sized incorrectly

made a new one and it worked w/o F5ing once (except for maybe on the first table when i wouldnt've be able to tell)

http://stackandtile.com/sat/node/3



hrmm.. could be that your gridsize is messing up the coord scaling. its worked pretty well for me, but i guess if you have a very large or very small gridsize, maybe the exact coord isnt getting proportionately calculated correctly. ive just went through the other new themes and made sure that the fold checkbox will be clicked, so see next version. for now you could try and see if a different gridsize matters. just do file->newconfig so you dont lose your current settings

Just downloaded it, followed all instructions. Set it up fine. When i tested it by opening some random play money tables, the tables all would not stop flashing.

What i'm trying to accomplish is this. I 40 table and even though stars claims to have new tables not stealing focus, they still do for me. I use tableninja and hem, xpadder and xbox360 controller.

Will this program eliminate the new tables stealing focus from me in just 1 stack?

Would i have to use 2 stacks, 1 for all the new tables popping up and 1 for the tables i'm acting on with not focus stealing issues?

Let me know if this software can accomplish what i need it to, i sense it can, even though it may not be the reason you made it, i think fundamentally it can achieve what i want already.

Thanks in advance

might be the advanced option activate table on move to grid but not sure

I dont think so, i checked and unchecked it, i also went into stars and unchecked the pop up action as told and even tried with it checked.

Basically when the tables opened, my cpu usage was going crazy and they were constantly being activated it seems.

i'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'flashing', maybe resizing, so see my comments below. as for stealing focus, SaT cannot combat that. if stars built in option doesn't work, you can try HJalper software.

however the workaround for SaT users has been to use two stacks, one for playing and one for 'New Tables'. cash players use the New Tables stack for tables that they've gotten a waitlist seat and handle buying in, etc. so you could try using a New Tables stack, all New Tables will go there (so when you press Start, every table will be 'new'), then use a stacking hotkey to send them to your normal play stack, where you can proceed as normal. if you open up new SNGs, they will go to the New Tables stack until you move them to the normal stack. or you can send New Tables into the grid, so they won't block your normal stack either

the problem could be that your stars tables are opening at random sizes, so SaT is trying to resize them to the correct grid size, and that causes a huge slowdown since stars is very slow. what i recommend is opening up a million play money tables, let SaT resize them to your gridsize, then save the layout in stars so that stars will auto open the tables at the correct size, and then you wont have to worry about SAT resizing them

How does one go about setting up different table size for different rooms? as it happens unibet tables are slightly higher then tables in other rooms, basically they have different proportion so width is the same but heigh on unibet tables is different so how do i change it so that they would be same height but different width ty!

TN routes "fold commands" to "check" if the option is present, if you could get your hotkeys to do the same that would be great (certainly a pita/resource hog to have that "are u sure u want to fold checking is free box come up")


also a "fold to any+stack" hotkey would be helpfull (id assume im just not going to put any chips into the pot after my free look at 52 on bb lets me see a JQK board and that would save me 2-3 clicks which is a big deal when mass tabling)

Easy. Set up Unibet first.

its vastly easier to edit your user (configuration settings) file manually


open a single pokerstars table and let SAT resize it on startup


save the single table as a custom layout titled SAT STACK or whatever u want


in the PS lobby header click on "help" > open my settings folder


find your user file (theres a gear icon overlayed on a notepad icon) and double click it to open


(if it asks what program to open it with, use notepad)


once inside scroll down untill you see where your custom layouts are listed


find "SAT STACK=coo,rdi,nat,es "


highlight "coo,rdi,nat,es " making sure to include the space


copy, and Ctrl+V like a mofo untill you have vvvv


SAT STACK=coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es coo,rdi,nat,es ...................................


just make twice as many "slots" for your layout as you'd ever play in one sitting and SAT will never send F5 to resize a table unless you resize one first


then click file>save as> and save it in a location other than the file where the original is located


then you just move the old config file out of the folder and move the new one in and close pokerstars


exit pokerstars- upon closing stars a (poorly worded imo) popup will appear asking if you want to "save changes" or "keep external changes" you want to "keep external changes"


restart pokerstars client


if you made a formatting error somewhere stars reverts to a blank config file when you start the client and you have to try again


if you didnt change anything in the file except what you intended to you should now have a xxx table layout that matches your dims for SAT


if you did oops somewhere copy your original user config file and paste a copy into the pokerstars settings folder and try again



if you put a space where one doesnt belong or omit a space where one should be PS client wont recognize the format and will erase all your settings and start from scratch so always have a working unedited copy of a working user config file to fall back on

this is actually easier to do/follow

What we need is one hotkey that does the following.

Fold then return to stack, if the advance fold tick box is visible, then tick that and return to stack, but if the option to check is available then click that but do not return to stack.


If that could all be wrapped up into one hotkey that would be perfect.

With TN it is able to check/fold, what I have done is to then append the return to stack on the end of that.

Folding is fine, it folds and returns to stack.

Problem is the same key can check and when I check, the return to stack command is still at the end.

So this cant be solved in TN or via my own hotkeys,, it needs to be coded into S+T

Hope that makes sense.

Is it also possible to add a feature to close a table at the end of an orbit when the auto post blinds tick box is unchecked?

I posed this question on the TN forum but the response was that (for FT at least) it would be too CPU intensive.
With tables flying this way and the next it would be nice to untick the auto post box and know that at the end of the orbit the table would auto close rather than disappearing into the stack never to be seen again.

BTW I thought Id mention, I dont know what you have done to S+T over the last few months, but I tried it out a while ago and didnt like it as the experience was very flickery.

I retried it as of last week as I thought it was definitely a good concept and the experience seems less flickery, so I assume something changed in terms of the S+T engine... so well done really!

hrmm.. yeah try using a UniBet table during Setup Grid to set up your gridsize. that should do it. (but i do know of the issue youre talking about, no current option to change that width to height.)

thanks, listen to him


SaT should automatically click 'check' when that "are you sure" popup box arises. is it not doing that for you?

does TN click that "fold to any"? if so, you could always just rely solely on TN for folding, and solely on SaT for stacking. in that case, lets say TN fold is "F", in SaT, set up a "Stack Table" hotkey, choose F, but type in the ~ prefix, so that its like this "~F"


i think i see what you mean, and that invalidates what i just wrote above. hrmm.. i'm not sure i really want to go through all those hoops, because then ill have to search for all these pre-checkboxes for all sites. i think the solution to append the stacking to the end of the TN fold key isn't so bad, because the worst that happens is that the table goes back to stack, your actoin comes around again and the table re-tiles into grid


future option will be for 'Old Tables', where if a table hasn't required action in 5 minutes, it will be moved to grid, or newtablestack, or closed, etc. so you can untick auto post, i guess the table will then sit you out? and after 5 mins of no action requested, SaT will find it. no hand should really last longer than 5 minutes i dont think. no eta on this option though, hopefully soon

thanks! i'm constantly trying to make improvements, but in general its gonna be very cpu intensive to constantly scan all tables and grab colors. there should be even more improvements for win vista/7, but i'm still on XP so as soon as i upgrade it should be better

it may be clicking check (i know TN does this also) but it appears to be very resource intensive for PS to even generate that popup (30 tabled on a laptop this afternoon with SAT HEM and TN running and it was pushing the limits of what my setup was capable of (made me want to kick puppies)


ill try using a prefix tomorrow (I think i just got it set up right) and see how it works out

What i'm using Stack and tile for is to set 2 stacks, 1 for all my tables, and another for new tables coming in, so they dont steal focus, and i just send them over to my main stack once they start. Works 100% perfect. However, I usually 38 table when i'm playing, but with this software once i got to 21 tables, it got much much slower and i had to stop loading.

Is there a reason for that, in my Task Manager Pokerstars was up to 60% constantly in cpu usage, and usually its very small. Regarding action popping up, i actually have it unchecked in SaT and checked in pokerstars, so maybe thats why? what i mean is in the about tab of SaT i have all 3 unchecked. or maybe since i can do that and it works fine, i can do something else in the SaT settings so its not constantly checking something and causing major cpu usage?

Hopefully you see what i'm getting at, or even better can give me a way to be able to play more than 21 tables.

Thanks in advance.

I changed the settings to the max numbers 10000 and 1000 and it helped, but now every 10 seconds it spikes to 100%. Any suggestions? Is it possible to make that number 1000000000 ? i think that would solve all my problems.

what numbers exactly? there is a lot of cpu usage because SaT needs to determine if action is required, which means it has to scan the tables for the fold button. this is very cpu intensive. i hope to make performance improvements in the future for win vista/7 users.

the number that would help is the Engine Delay, that just means how often SaT will do the scan. next version ill allow it to be increased even further for you

i thought it was my machine and or hem usage that was primarily causing massive lag/preformance issues when in the 20-30 table range

if SAT is a contributing factor its definitely an issue
have you mass tabled with the comparable program that was formerly available but isnt anymore and do you know if there are comparable performance "hits" mass tabling on that program as well?

perhaps contacting the creator of that program regarding "tweaks"/performance fixes once youre ready to undertake them would be something to consider


i do think that SAT's functionality would allow me to 40+ table if there wasnt exponentially more lag/freezing past 20 tables (tbh ive been thinking i am going to buy an overbuilt desktop to try to get that ability, so good/efficient/nonintrusive performance is extremely important to me and knowing whether my issues are primarily software or hardware based before plunking down hundreds of dollars on a new desktop would be good)

how about including a 'fold to any bet" hotkey

i think this would solve the preact button issue for me

bbl to say more playng now

the times i currently have the option to preact are when im looking at a table i just shoved or showed down or am on bb w trash that missed, fold to any bet would be valueable in these instances and i can use my normal fold and stack key immediately after

Yeah the engine delay and the other number right with it on the about tab. I made them both the max numbers you can. It helped but still not great. Now when that delay is reached, it spikes to 100% for a second obviously because SAT is trying to read the tables.

In my case, i dont think i need SAT to read the tables because i'm not pulling them out during play at all. I just want to use it to put a new table into a stack.

Either way yeah if i could make that number huge so it happens once an hour or something for the next version and i'd be able to use SAT i think.

As it is now, i have to 38table without SAT, and just deal with the random focus stealing problems of new tournaments.