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08-16-2013 , 12:46 PM
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The only thing needed is the psql querry to mark a hand used in the PT4 databases, you can try asking for it in the PokerTracker support forums or ask some psql specialist.
You'll need to know the id_hand value of the hand you want to be adding a mark to - that's a unique value for each hand set at import time.

The following two queries will add tag number 1 to the hand with id_hand X. Depending you might want to use Configure -> Tags to set up a specific tag for these purposes. You can then either just edit the information for tag 1, or add a new tag and you can find its id_tag value in the lookup_tags table (you can just select * from lookup_tags; it's a really small table). To use a different tag other than 1, change the 1 below to some other number.

For cash games:
update cash_hand_summary set flg_tag = true where id_hand = X;
insert into tags VALUES (X, 'H', true, 1, false)

For tournaments:
update tourney_hand_summary set flg_tag = true where id_hand = X;
insert into tags VALUES (X, 'H', false, 1, false)
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08-16-2013 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
If you would like to learn more about the rakeback calculation method for your specific poker network, please feel free to ask.
If you ever posted the iPoker reply to your RB query, I must have missed it. This was about what WC actually means.
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08-16-2013 , 02:40 PM
Is there a way to view all player notes in one place?
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08-16-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
If you ever posted the iPoker reply to your RB query, I must have missed it. This was about what WC actually means.
Our contact at iPoker confirmed our understanding of their rakeback methods, he told us we could not calculate rakeback due to their proprietary weighting. If they are telling us something that you still believe to be untrue, then I don't know what to say - we have to trust what they tell us. As we said previously, you are free to make your own custom stat to track the rakeback of ANY site even if the method is just an estimate and not accurate, but we cannot include estimated formulas in the download warehouse - we are only willing to host stats that have confirmed formulas that are accurate.

- TT
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08-16-2013 , 03:13 PM
Thanks for the info. What you're saying is contrary to everything I've found on the internet so far (and I've done a great deal of searching), i.e. I'm yet to find any other reference to iPoker using any secret coefficients, on top of directly weighing the rake according to each players' contribution to the pot. Maybe they do have an Essence-like scheme, I'm sure that would be news to many others than myself.
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08-16-2013 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pasita
Thanks for the info. What you're saying is contrary to everything I've found on the internet so far (and I've done a great deal of searching), i.e. I'm yet to find any other reference to iPoker using any secret coefficients, on top of directly weighing the rake according to each players' contribution to the pot. Maybe they do have an Essence-like scheme, I'm sure that would be news to many others than myself.
The easiest way to find out if the contributed rake matches your rakeback earnings is to create a custom stat - if the rakeback matches your contributed rake then the info we received is wrong, if not... then you have your answer. Yet another reason why the custom stats in PokerTracker 4 are so powerful. IIRC you already know how to make custom stats, but if you need help please visit our Customization forum at pokertracker.com
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08-16-2013 , 05:18 PM
HUD working for Zoom PLO for anyone? 4.09.1
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08-16-2013 , 05:56 PM
I have different HUD'S for different things. Let's say I'm playing a 6 max and I reach HU stage. I want my HUD to automatically change from A to B. I don't think there's an option to do that right now. Could you please implement it, if I'm not wrong? Thanks.
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08-16-2013 , 06:09 PM
Passed about 1 month and a half since the last update, may I ask you what are you working on? Maybe a big update, or minor fixes, or some new feature...
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08-16-2013 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ankimo
HUD working for Zoom PLO for anyone? 4.09.1
We have no known issues with Zoom PLO hands. I attempted to test Zoom PLO but there were no playmoney games active (I am in the USA at this moment), but I can confirm that Holdem is working. If Holdem is working, then we can usually assume that PLO hands would be working as well.

Please review the PokerStars Site Configuration Guide, you must follow a very specific order when playing Zoom tables with PokerTracker 4, if this order is not followed the HUD will not appear: https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...guration-guide

I suspect the start order is what is causing your problem. Good luck, hope this works for you!

- TT
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08-16-2013 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sweeer
I have different HUD'S for different things. Let's say I'm playing a 6 max and I reach HU stage. I want my HUD to automatically change from A to B. I don't think there's an option to do that right now. Could you please implement it, if I'm not wrong? Thanks.
We looked into this, but we cannot implement it until all of the networks we support provides us with the total number of seats available at the table - sadly only a few do at this stage. You may have noticed a feature called "Treat Table As", this is our table size estimation feature, this feature would conflict with changing HUDs based on player counts. Someday we hope this will no longer be an issue, but at the current time the data is not available yet, sorry!

- TT
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08-16-2013 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ServerBTest002
Passed about 1 month and a half since the last update, may I ask you what are you working on? Maybe a big update, or minor fixes, or some new feature...
We don't comment on upcoming releases unless the information has been previously made public about a change. Dates & release content are kept confidential until the day of release - but I can say that we are working on new updates as I type this post.


- TT
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08-17-2013 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HollywoodHogan
Is there a way to view all player notes in one place?
bump. Or, at least a quicker way to find notes on a player besides loading up a bunch of hands in the replayer and skipping ahead 'til I see someone with a note...
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08-17-2013 , 05:24 AM
I really miss 2 things for PT4,

1 I would like to be able to Make alias various player witch play together at the same tables(for study ) i make an alias with very good regs to analise how they play some filtred spots..


2 i understand BB effective filter (not quick filters , filters near blinds/bet type etc) will not be created,
I would like to be able to choose 2 Quick filters(saved previously), it would be really good combine 2 of them..

For exemple , I can save quick filters of ranges of BB , and then aply other quick filters..
I think if you can do this easily , it can be a very very good tool to combine 2 quick filters (saved) !

Thank you very much!
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08-17-2013 , 07:21 AM
Hello, i'm gonna give an example: stat "raise with previous limpers". I can have this stat only for BB (by selecting "position", on item properties which always will assume it's vs a limper from any position. But there's no way to choose vs just a specific limper (vs only SB limper for example). What is missing is an option "vs position".

I think it's a major leak PT4 has since a long time and should add that as soon as possible. It shouldn't be that difficult to add the "vs position" tab on Item Properties. Regards. I'm kinda shocked that doesn't exist on PT4 wow

Last edited by sweeer; 08-17-2013 at 07:31 AM.
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08-17-2013 , 10:35 AM
i think pt4 is missing some hands during import. im playing husngs hyper turbo format. what could be the possible reason?
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08-17-2013 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by icanhazstax
A lot of my NoteTracker notes seem to have duplicates rather than compressing all of the range into a single definition.

For instance, a lot of my notes look like this: http://i.imgur.com/9oDnjdm.jpg

As you can see, it's pretty cluttered and difficult to read. A lot of that is because of the duplicates. You have at the top "3bet Blinds v Steal [range] (10)", then another "3bet Blinds v Steal [range] (2)" fifth from the bottom. AQs/AKo are included in both of those ranges. There's a "Called 3Bet IP [range] (1)" second from the bottom, then another "Called 3Bet IP [range] (1)" just a bit higher. There are numerous other duplications on this list.

Also, they don't seem to be well organized. Rather than having all the preflop notes lumped up top, followed by Flop, Turn, then River, the Preflop stats are both at the top and bottom, and there is a stray Turn stat near the bottom as well.

Why aren't these notes and hand ranges being compressed into a single automated note?

This is what my NoteTracker definitions page currently looks like: http://i.imgur.com/mnJQUzg.jpg

So there aren't any duplicate notes saying the same thing being used. So it just appears like not all of the hand ranges from a single note definition is being properly combined with all other similar hands from the same definition. At least that's what it appears to be.
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
There appears to be multiple issues at play here.
1) Did you edit any NoteTracker note definitions to modify the existing notes?
2) Did you enable Notes that were not enabled by default? There are some notes that we included as an option, but we disabled by default because we believe that too many separate notes can be counterproductive to your game. Notes are best used in moderation when multitabling.
3) Did you add any custom notes or a third party package?

If any of the above three was done, then it is advised to purge your automatic notes, and then re-scrub the database to recreate notes. Notes are not dynamic, once a note is written is is not erased, therefore any changes to the note definition can result in duplicates in some situations, and in other situations it could result in notes that are only updated based on the new definition while playing new hands.

The first step of the solution is to open NoteTracker, select Status and then Purge All Automatic Notes. Then select a date long before you started your database, 1/1/2001 is probably a safe time and do not take notes on the hero to save processing time. The click RUN and OK. PokerTracker 4 will scrub the database of players and create notes for each player in the background while you have PokerTracker 4 open, therefore its a good idea to do this overnight while you do not need your computer - OR - you can start playing immediately and PokerTracker 4 will begin to rebuild the database of Autonotes for you on the fly.

- TT
Revisiting this issue from earlier this month, any chance you have more than one database enabled at the same time in the HUD, or are you importing into a separate database for observed hands? This could be the cause as well.

- TT
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08-17-2013 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HollywoodHogan
bump. Or, at least a quicker way to find notes on a player besides loading up a bunch of hands in the replayer and skipping ahead 'til I see someone with a note...
Notes are freeform, therefore they require the freeform note editor or tool tips to be viewed, there is no logical way to display notes in reports other than to open the note editor. If you have a design suggestion that would enable us to do that, we would keep an open mind if it is feasible - but to date I haven't seen any suggestions that would work to accomplish this even though quite a few ideas were tossed at us.
- TT
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08-17-2013 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rhalala
I really miss 2 things for PT4,

1 I would like to be able to Make alias various player witch play together at the same tables(for study ) i make an alias with very good regs to analyze how they play some filtered spots..
PokerTracker 4 already includes the Global Player Graphs just for this purpose. Used in combination with Global Filters, this is a VERY powerful way to perform population studies to review event frequencies. We got you covered!

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Originally Posted by rhalala
2 i understand BB effective filter (not quick filters , filters near blinds/bet type etc) will not be created,
I would like to be able to choose 2 Quick filters(saved previously), it would be really good combine 2 of them..

For example , I can save quick filters of ranges of BB , and then aply other quick filters..
I think if you can do this easily , it can be a very very good tool to combine 2 quick filters (saved) !

Thank you very much!
We would like to someday allow quickfilters to be added together, it has certainly been discussed - but it is not as easy to do as you suggest, for example it would require a total redesign of the user interface to accomplish this - not to mention the creation of new logic to assure that filters do not conflict with one another. Someday perhaps.... its certainly on our radar.

- TT
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08-17-2013 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sweeer
Hello, i'm gonna give an example: stat "raise with previous limpers". I can have this stat only for BB (by selecting "position", on item properties which always will assume it's vs a limper from any position. But there's no way to choose vs just a specific limper (vs only SB limper for example). What is missing is an option "vs position".

I think it's a major leak PT4 has since a long time and should add that as soon as possible. It shouldn't be that difficult to add the "vs position" tab on Item Properties. Regards. I'm kinda shocked that doesn't exist on PT4 wow
vs position stats must be hard coded to the PokerTracker 4 database due to the structure of the database, this means every "vs position" added will reduce performance of the database, importing, and the HUD. Hard coded stats are unique and can only have one function, this means we cannot add a vs. position property even though we already have fixed Position and HAS position properties. We added all of the most important vs position stats that 99% of all players might request, if you have specific needs you are free to make a custom stat whenever possible - we can help if you visit our customization forum, or you may find that we have already created that stat for you in the Download Warehouse.



PS: I expected to have more requests for these stats when we were developing PokerTracker 4, but I discovered over time that for the majority of users vs position stats are more critical in post-game review using filters than they are in-game with the HUD. This doesn't diminish your suggestion, it is only an observation I wanted to share so you are aware that this can be done in the filters, but not in the HUD.

- TT
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08-18-2013 , 01:55 AM
is there anyway to get pt4 to stop recording hands when villians sits out?
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08-18-2013 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsAGoodCard
is there anyway to get pt4 to stop recording hands when villians sits out?
Please be more descriptive, I am not sure what you are looking for - or why. Please include what game type and # of players at the table - along with why you're looking for just one villain, not others.
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08-18-2013 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
Please be more descriptive, I am not sure what you are looking for - or why. Please include what game type and # of players at the table - along with why you're looking for just one villain, not others.
its for husng hyper turbos format. because when villain sits out, the hud continues to record the hands he plays. therefore his ats% goes while his fts% goes up as im blinding him out.
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08-18-2013 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerTracker
We have no known issues with Zoom PLO hands. I attempted to test Zoom PLO but there were no playmoney games active (I am in the USA at this moment), but I can confirm that Holdem is working. If Holdem is working, then we can usually assume that PLO hands would be working as well.

Please review the PokerStars Site Configuration Guide, you must follow a very specific order when playing Zoom tables with PokerTracker 4, if this order is not followed the HUD will not appear: https://www.pokertracker.com/guides/...guration-guide

I suspect the start order is what is causing your problem. Good luck, hope this works for you!

- TT
Thanks TT. I probably started Stars first before PT4.
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08-18-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsAGoodCard
its for husng hyper turbos format. because when villain sits out, the hud continues to record the hands he plays. therefore his ats% goes while his fts% goes up as im blinding him out.
Thank you for the explaination. as you can imagine, this issue is unique to HUSNGs only, this is not a factor for any other game type or format.

There are two issues with what you suggest.

1) PokerTracker 4's tournament support is designed to cover the needs of all game formats at the same time. HUSNGs use the same tournament support concepts and functionality as MTTs. The HUD and the hand history importer does not know what type of tournament you are playing until after the tournament is finished and you have busted out - and even then we may not have the ability to determine what tournament type you are playing, what the payout is, what the buyin was, or even your place finished unless this data is provided by the network - you would be shocked at how little data is given to the players on most networks. For example PokerStars and FullTilt are the only two sites that provide full tournament summaries, other networks have partial data feeds that are nearly complete such as Mcrogaming or just hand histories with nothing else that is descriptive about the tournament provided such as at the Winning Poker Network. Due to the spotty data provided by networks (or in the case of Stars and FullTilt incomplete data until the tournament is over) PokerTracker 4 cannot determine if you are playing in a HUSNG, a multitable HU shootout, or an MTT where you are one of the final two players until after the tournament is finished and the results have been processed. In the case of MTTs on Stars and Tilt, this means after the entire tournament is finished and a Tournament Summary has been saved to the disk which may surprise some MTT or 6max + SNG players; this does not automatically occur when you bust out.

2) PokerTracker 4 does not always know when an opponent is sitting out, this information may not be in the hand history, many networks treat a player sitting out as if they are taking normal actions, or they may list the player as sitting out in just the first hand and not in the following hands which we cannot support because hands are not always imported in a linear fashion - for example you may be disconnected or you may chose to import a smaller subset of hands on a secondary computer.

Long story short, there is no way at this time to stop the creation of stats while a player is blinding out. Perhaps over time as networks continue to improve their data feed offerings, this is something we will continue to look at in the future for new ways that we can solve this dilemma for our users.

- TT
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