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11-05-2019 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by newbieguy
I am still running my tests, and it seems that this issue is a much bigger constraint causing slowness than running X analysis reports simultaneously.

I have installed tools to optimize RAM, but it doesn't seem to change anything.

So the key question is : what can cause Pio to slow down the more files are being uploaded?
and how to fix that?
... and it's a question of Piosolver instance, not a global state of lack of memory or computer being slow...

I mean one instance of Pio can be slow as described above, and another instance of Pio can be launched and perfectly run simultaneously (fast/normal) on the same computer.
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11-05-2019 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Yes, you need to fill turn and river with sensible options. It doesn't need to be very detailed if you just want flop frequencies but it must be sensible with no important strategic options missing.



Did you recalc the tree?
Is the node-lock preflop or did you just node-lock one of the flops?
I node-lock one of the flops.I didnt recalc the tree.
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11-05-2019 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
It's not possible at the moment. It's the first time we hear about rake being taken if the flop is not seen. We might add it in the future.
This is pretty common in California as they take a $1 for the bad bead jackpot regardless if saw flop.

Forgetting the $1 rake if no flop, how would I simulate a $6 rake when saw flop? Should I just set it to 100% fo the pot with an 6 chip cap?

Are "chips" equivalent to dollars or is this relative to the BB?
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11-06-2019 , 04:21 AM
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So it seems that the more files have been uploaded to Pioviewer, the slowest the upload of next cfr file.
Even during 1 same export, it seems that the more files are being uploaded, the slowest the upload time for each additional file (tested with 1000 boards).
I have run this test a few times, and it's always like that.
Yes, in general unloading trees is at the moment very slow after a while. This is caused by the Windows allocator being awful. We have plans to improve the situation but sadly it takes longer than we would like.
Still, with small saves it's usually very fast to do a report if they are only several mb big.

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I node-lock one of the flops.I didnt recalc the tree.
Changing strategy on just one flop won't influence preflop play much. You also need to run the solver again after changing the strategies as it needs to work out what the new equilibrium is. It's not that simple to calculate and doesn't appear instantly after node-locking.

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Are "chips" equivalent to dollars or is this relative to the BB?
You can use 1chip = 1 dollar if fractions (cents) are not used in your game. In other cases it's more convenient to use 10chips = 1dollar or 100chips = 1dollar (so 1chip = 1cent) to allow finely frained bet sizes.
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11-06-2019 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Yes, in general unloading trees is at the moment very slow after a while. This is caused by the Windows allocator being awful.
Are there any negative events and/or problems from killing the solver process and re-connecting? The windows system claims the memory faster when doing this operation its only a few clicks.
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11-06-2019 , 11:09 AM
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Are there any negative events and/or problems from killing the solver process and re-connecting? The windows system claims the memory faster when doing this operation its only a few clicks.
No negative side effects. Just make sure to set everything from scratch when building new trees as solver restart also resets all the settings (like recalc accuracy, mem_check etc. etc.). This is in fact much faster, especially for very big trees.
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11-06-2019 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
No negative side effects. Just make sure to set everything from scratch when building new trees as solver restart also resets all the settings (like recalc accuracy, mem_check etc. etc.). This is in fact much faster, especially for very big trees.
Very appreciative, thanks!
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11-06-2019 , 06:02 PM
Saw in a video that cntrl+shift+n will bring up other flops for selection tht are located in the subfolder (as opposed to draging them) ...its just rn im using a server and im guessing thats why these key commands dont work, is there another way to open this? Thanks again punter.
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11-06-2019 , 10:05 PM
If I buy Piosolver Basic can I upgrade at a later date to Piosolver Pro for a fee? If so how much will it be please? Cheers.
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11-06-2019 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dapperdan08
If I buy Piosolver Basic can I upgrade at a later date to Piosolver Pro for a fee? If so how much will it be please? Cheers.
Apologies. Found the answer in the FAQ:

2.Can I buy one version and upgrade later?
Yes, the prices are going to be: 249$ to upgrade from basic to pro
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11-06-2019 , 10:21 PM
I'm getting the hang of running a script. However, when I go to look at the Excel file, all I see is the OP flop data. How do I get to see the IP data?
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11-07-2019 , 01:20 AM
Hi there,

I'm fairly new to PIO Solver and haven't really used the preflop section of it yet. Went to use it tonight and I kept getting these same 2 error messages:

"One or more nodes including r:0 is missing fold/call actions. Your tree might be incomplete"

"Couldn't build a tree. There are missing actions in the node r:0"

I've tried changing things but still get these error messages every time. Anyone have any advice for me?

Thanks
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11-07-2019 , 03:49 AM
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Saw in a video that cntrl+shift+n will bring up other flops for selection tht are located in the subfolder (as opposed to draging them) ...its just rn im using a server and im guessing thats why these key commands dont work, is there another way to open this? Thanks again punter.
It's ctrl+shift+O.
It should work on the server if you are using Remote Desktop to connect to it unless something is hijacking that particular key combination.

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If I buy Piosolver Basic can I upgrade at a later date to Piosolver Pro for a fee? If so how much will it be please? Cheers.
Yes. The upgrades cost the difference in prices during the first month after purchase and the difference +25$ after that.

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I'm getting the hang of running a script. However, when I go to look at the Excel file, all I see is the OP flop data. How do I get to see the IP data?
Aggregation reports are run for a specific decision. Navigate to IP decision and run the report then to see average % of actions/EVs etc. for IP.

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"One or more nodes including r:0 is missing fold/call actions. Your tree might be incomplete"
This is a warning not an error. It shows when one of the possible fold/call actions are missing in the tree. You may choose not to include them by choice (to have only raise/fold for example). In such case just click ok on the warning and it will work.

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"Couldn't build a tree. There are missing actions in the node r:0"
This in fact looks like the tree doesn't have necessary actions. To help you we would need to see what you are doing (a screenshot would be a good start). It may also be a good idea to watch the preflop quick start guide linked in the licensing email.
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11-07-2019 , 04:09 AM
I am having this error:

https://gyazo.com/3b6f279f7e89935b54522ab5a51c92d9

I had the free version so I deleted the folder as suggested and I still get the same msg.

Any ideas?
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11-07-2019 , 04:30 AM
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I am having this error:

https://gyazo.com/3b6f279f7e89935b54522ab5a51c92d9

I had the free version so I deleted the folder as suggested and I still get the same msg.

Any ideas?
This means you don't have a permission to create folders in C:\ this can be caused by many things (security settings, antivirus etc.). The simplest solution is to choose a different installation path when you know you have permission to create files, for example try C:\Program Files.
If you are running 3rd party antivirus it might be a good idea to disable those as well (don't disable Windows Defender).
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11-07-2019 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
This means you don't have a permission to create folders in C:\ this can be caused by many things (security settings, antivirus etc.). The simplest solution is to choose a different installation path when you know you have permission to create files, for example try C:\Program Files.
If you are running 3rd party antivirus it might be a good idea to disable those as well (don't disable Windows Defender).
It's working now (changed ownership of C:\PioSOLVER) ty
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11-07-2019 , 10:21 AM
Does anyone know how to generate a script about equity realization for certain stacks and openings?
I would like to study the equity realization of certain ranges when we are at BB.
Taking into account my stack, the opening range of villains and the opening size so that I could then insert the script into power equilab. I believe that with pio solver we can generate, some indication?
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11-07-2019 , 06:53 PM
Is there anyway to highlight and copy the following? Want to paste the actual combo break down into an excel document without manually writing it for each script.

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11-08-2019 , 12:38 AM
Should i get similar action frequencies for aggregation reports with different flop subsets? So if i want to run aggregation report for turn barrel and see right frequencies does it matter if i run it over 94 flops subset versus 1755?
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11-08-2019 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DurhamK1D3
This is a warning not an error. It shows when one of the possible fold/call actions are missing in the tree. You may choose not to include them by choice (to have only raise/fold for example). In such case just click ok on the warning and it will work.

This in fact looks like the tree doesn't have necessary actions. To help you we would need to see what you are doing (a screenshot would be a good start). It may also be a good idea to watch the preflop quick start guide linked in the licensing email.
I've gotten past these previous things above but now I'm getting a different error message and I'm not sure what to do now.

https://gyazo.com/cc3f7874d2623513f5f029128295bb0f[/QUOTE]
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11-09-2019 , 01:37 PM
When I try to start `c:\piosolver\piosolver-pro.exe` from the command line I get:

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ERROR: Failed to load TurboActivate.dat file, please contact support
I searched in this thread and saw that this happens when you don't start piosolver from the installation folder. And when I try to start piosolver-pro.exe after changing into the installation directory it indeed does work. But is there a way to circumvent this problem? Is there a way to make it run from any directory? I am trying to write an python interface that makes scripting easier for specific board types.

Would it work if I simply copied the c:\piosolver\turboactivate folder from my installation folder in to my working python directory? Or will that likely break something?
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11-09-2019 , 07:20 PM
What is a general overall good accuracy percentage for pre AND post-flop solves?

I've mostly been doing 0.25% for postflop but and using the same for pre although I don't know if thats overkil or not.
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11-10-2019 , 04:47 AM
nobody can help me?
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11-10-2019 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tumaaas
Does anyone know how to generate a script about equity realization for certain stacks and openings?
I would like to study the equity realization of certain ranges when we are at BB.
Taking into account my stack, the opening range of villains and the opening size so that I could then insert the script into power equilab. I believe that with pio solver we can generate, some indication?
Nobody can help me?
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11-10-2019 , 07:41 AM
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Does anyone know how to generate a script about equity realization for certain stacks and openings?
I would like to study the equity realization of certain ranges when we are at BB.
Well, you can add EV/EQ in Excel or LibreOffice when you open the report. There is no way to generate that in report directly.
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Is there anyway to highlight and copy the following? Want to paste the actual combo break down into an excel document without manually writing it for each script.
No way to do that now but it's a good idea to include it.

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Should i get similar action frequencies for aggregation reports with different flop subsets? So if i want to run aggregation report for turn barrel and see right frequencies does it matter if i run it over 94 flops subset versus 1755?
Well, the idea of the subsets is that calculating things on them produces the results similar to running calculations on all the flops. It's not possible to get exact same result with the smaller subset of course but the bigger you can run calculations on the closer it will be. On 94 flops it should already be very very close.

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I've gotten past these previous things above but now I'm getting a different error message and I'm not sure what to do now.
The full preflop solver is only available in the edge version and requires very powerful hardware to run (at least 64GB of RAM, fast modern CPU).

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? Is there a way to make it run from any directory? I am trying to write an python interface that makes scripting easier for specific board types.
When opening the process in Python you need to set "cwd" argument to the location the solver is in (by default it's set to the location your script is in). Alternatively you can copy all the .dll/dat files to the location your script is in but setting "cwd" is easier.

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I've mostly been doing 0.25% for postflop but and using the same for pre although I don't know if thats overkil or not.
Defining preflop accuracy in terms of % of the pot makes little sense because the initial pot is usually 0 (before the blind are posted in no ante games). That's why it makes more sense to use bb/100 for preflop. We recommend going for 2-3bb/100 although the newest version of the solver should be able to get to 1bb/100 reliably on most trees.

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Nobody can help me?
I am sorry. I am a bit sick and therefore there are delays answering posts here as well as support emails.
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