Exactly.

Finished the first four episodes this afternoon.

Holy hell this show is amazing.

helicopter patrol of a high crime area, see ghetto birds

Just out of curiosity - under what circumstances have you been employing meth heads?

Huge fail. He is the best thing about it iyam.

Fantastic ep., best thing on tv, HBO's the GOAT, etc.

I know I am in the minority but i found this troubling as well. Also, the guy MM is targeting seems very high up in the gang , possibly the # 2 guy. It's not IBM, but u still don't get that high in most crime orbs being stupid. Robbing gangbangers with no plan is stupid , not to mention a task that would prolly be delegated to less important pieces of the biker gang

Not all strippers , or dancers, work in east Texas po-dunk biker meth clubs

I live and have a business in the rural mid south( eastern Arkansas.) You would probably be amazed at the percentage of young white people here that are on meth. If you have a farm or business here and have any amount of unskilled labor you will deal with them. To answer your question, I am in the sawmill business. I know, you're probably thinking that's a great place for a meth head. You'd have to live here.
I could see them sitting around and planning something as preposterous as robbing a house in the heart of the projects. And a light bulb going off in one of their heads and saying, " Hey guys, I know what, let's dress up like cops. That'll fool 'em."

Huuuuuuuuhhhhh? So having the nut high meth cook means they this biker gang doesn't partake in any other $$ generating criminal activity?

Proud Texan-Ray Wylie Hubbard


So we hit it off me and this dancer
We hit it off like a metaphor
Like a metaphor for a hydrogen bomb
We was enriched uranium, super critical mass, we was a chain reaction
It was love and lust, aw mostly lust but a mutual attraction
So there I was boys at 21 years old, I had it all
I had a fine stripper girlfriend and a Gold Top Les Paul

I don't know if this has been discussed yet but I don't really understand why episode three ended with the sending out an APB and driving off like they were going to take care of some **** and then ends with shot of underwear dude. I thought this episode was going to start off with a crazy gun fight especially after the talk in ep 3 of a gun fight. A little disorienting, not sure if I am missing something.

The end of this last ep was incredible. One crazy long shot like that? On television? These guys have some huge directorial cahones.

I have a good friend from college whose family has a sawmill in eastern Arkansas and he's said the same thing about the meth problem.

I read that while the interviews are subject to lies, faulty memory, self-delusion, etc., what we actually see happening can be trusted. Read this on the Sepinwall blog, and I think it was confirmed by the writer.

I don't think this is the case. See above.

You can appreciate the director's fine work and still take issue with the way the story unfolded.

For example, wasn't it a pretty big coincidence that on the exact day Rust makes his play to get back with Ginger, Ginger just happened to be planning the most dangerous, suicidal heist of his life (safe assumption since he isn't dead), and one member of his crew just happened to be indisposed, opening up a spot, and Ginger chose to give that spot to the sketchy character he hadn't seen in a couple years....

I'm certainly not going to call it a "bad" episode. It still did far too much well for all that. But I've got no problem at all with anyone who was let down a bit by the direction episode four took.

Personally I would've liked it more if it was Rust who kept pushing deeper and deeper into this crazy world than his stated objective of locating the suspect necessitated, rather than getting quickly sucked in under implausible circumstances. Events escalating outside of his control into a Grand Theft Auto mission just wasn't as interesting to me as the rest of the series and even the rest of this episode.

have u guys ever seen the LEO that actually work those kind of vice details?
they don't look like the cops doing patrol.
there isn't anything odd about cops working vice detail having beards/tats n generally looking like bikers/thugs.

also the nittery in this thread is legendary.
excellent episode.
the can't you spot crazy pussy line was elite.
the ppl that had a problem with the final scene being "unrealistic" should prolly stick to documentaries.

Semi grunching

GOAT opening theme ?

also lol at MM being "annoying". Both him and Woody are incredibly good.

Not even GOAT HBO theme. Sopranos and true blood are better

GoT pretty elite but sopranos has to be GOAT.
thank god tho there is plenty of room for multiple awesome openings.

I'm partial to The Wire theme, with different versions each season.

Sopranos' I love the visuals as much as the theme, but that's because i grew up in Jersey and it looks familiar.

I like True Detective's theme a bit more than True Blood's, but it's close.

I believe you guys are totally missing the bikers in police uniform thing. The whole idea is preposterous. As far as the LEO that make this type of raid looking like bikers and not looking like regular street cops, that might be correct, but they do not wear regular street cop uniforms when they make this type of raid. Nobody in the projects was fooled into thinking these guys were cops. The knew they weren't cops from the git go. The uniform idea is used to show just the kind of crazy ideas meth heads can come up with. I stated in an earlier post that I've spent a lot of time around these guys and this fits their mind set to a T. "Hey man, look, I've got these cop uniforms. Let's put 'em on and drive into the heart of the projects and rob this house. Nobody will know we're not real cops." " Yeah, man! Great idea. Let's do this." Sounds ridiculous to a rational person, but that is meth head logic at its finest.

If ginger tells anyone, ginger loses his job and heads off to prison

Maybe that the investigation has steered in the direction of WH or someone in his dept.

The black guys for sure thought they were cops for a few seconds and that's all they really wanted

I am not sure what information Ginger could possibly give to LEO if arrested ? A meth smoking biker says an undercover , who was technically rogue not undercover during all this, helped in I a failed robbery of a drug den, only to be saved by another out of state rogue cop? Um no

Once again, no. The whole plan was beyond foolish. These bikers weren't thinking this way. They weren't thinking they wanted to buy a few seconds. They thought they were going to go in and out like cops. Looked what happened to them. Their plan had ZERO chance to work. I'll say it again, meth head logic at its finest. I also don't believe the black guys even thought they were cops for a few seconds. The whole thing just kind of caught them by surprise for a few seconds. It would of gone down the exact same way uniforms or not.

Not to mention that eyewitness reports are known to be inaccurate anyway, so the uniforms just add another layer of confusing detail to the info the police will collect from witnesses.