HBO preparing to order True Detective Season 2

http://www.hindustantimes.com/entert...1-1178437.aspx


"The potential second season of True Detective will be made without the help of current stars Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson. The investigation introduced will come to a close at the end of the first season, and subsequent seasons are expected to have a similar structure, but with different characters and plot lines, as is the case with the FX series American Horror Story"

That sucks, at least in AHS they kept some of the same characters.

Rust Cohle spinoff! The early Texas adventures.

It did here too, after the start at least. And I would argue that "lol [lazy] people, lol [unthinking] people" is an underlying theme of a lot of his rhetoric (and actions), of which this scene is a natural extension. I guess it was the first time we see it so out in the open though.

Perhaps my difference in reaction to those who found this scene polarizing (one way or the other) lies in our difference of estimation at how much these feelings/beliefs were hinted at earlier.

fyp

This is good, especially considering all the "What genre is this?" posts ITT. And it opens up a bunch of doors as to the reasons for MM's unraveling...

Writer Nic Pizzolatto on Thomas Ligotti and the Weird Secrets of ‘True Detective’

I don't think there are any spoilers in there, but just in case:

This

Despite his protestations, MM is pretty clearly a believer and quite spiritual who struggles mightily with issues of faith. "I contemplate the moment in the garden..." is not an atheist statement.

What he is criticizing is the unexamined life. And more importantly blind faith. To MM the kind of faith that comes easy is worthless. Their faith has not been tested and they have not had to suffer for it. And to that extent MM has more in common with true atheists than the revivalists.

It could be that MM believes his own lies enough that he is a foxhole atheist, but there's also likely a bunch of foreshadowing wrt self-sacrifice. A lot of MM's monologues seem to be mirroring "Father take this cup from me".

Or "Father why have you abandoned me?"

Crazy ep this week. Not a big fam of the time travel aspect and the Woody in the future being the Woody of before the murders and now they want to send him back to kill MM before he kills his kid and begins his killing spree?? Dont know how theyre gonna wrap all this up in time but things sure are hotting up.

I liked the time travel fu

I know you were speculating, that said:

MM is being interviewed in the same exact room as WH, the angle of WH's interview is offset 90 degrees from MM's interview to make it seem like a different room. One's in front of the window while the other is in front of a wall with file cabinets, I think. I would only assume this is intentional to give the interviews a different feel, giving WH a more informal feel.

One thing I'm noticing in the interview sessions:

Woody is being asked about MM a lot.
So far, MM hasn't really been asked anything about Woody.
It seems as though MM is a suspect in something, but I think the opposite is true: Woody is acting friendly and being open about his partnership with MM - even defending MM as a very good cop, etc., but he's acting for the cops. He's hiding something.

Lol

http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...ravaganza.html

TD playing some kickass music too. Discovered The Handsome Family and The Black Angels from the show.

This,

but not so much this:
Also,
Right on cue.

<--- RGT is that way. You'd fit right in.


I don't think so. Intelligent people can lead unexamined lives. He's berating these particular people (not all people) for their innate lack of intellectual ability, not their lack of introspective effort. And that doesn't fit so much with his other rants against humanity, which differ in that they include himself and all of humanity, rather than singling out subgroups.

So I see his comments more as a reaction against the immediate circumstances in which he finds himself - being among those who uncomplicatedly believe. He's uncomfortable and lashes out in his discomfort. This ties in more to what you said about him having an inner conflict over religion rather than having successfully rejected it.

And Marty's beginning to see though the rhetoric to this.

Certainly I had noticed the discrepancy. However, now that you mention it, has 2012 MM even mentioned WH's name at all? It seems like he had to. Maybe I'm just dead tired, but I honestly cannot remember 2012 MM being asked or offering anything about WH.

never mind. LOL Within like 15 min. of 1st episode MM mentioned that he had to explain to WH what a meta-psychotic was.

I'm imagining myself typing a sentence like that and having the actual courage to hit submit knowing how arrogant and masturbatory to the distortion of my own intelligence it would take and i think i would shoot my head off

He is accurate, however. As IQ rises, so does the percent of people who identify themselves as non-religious.

Now that may due to various other factors: High IQ people tend to be exposed to a greater variety of outlooks in educational settings, tend to travel more and thus get exposed to many different cultures and outlooks.

Reality may be people who are exposed to a wide range of ideas are more likely to question traditional beliefs.

OK how about very intelligent people. Still or even more atheist or back to religious?

even more atheist.

Everything I've read suggests "very intelligent" skews towards atheism.

If you don't understand that correlation is not causation you're probably one of those dumb religious types....

Look what happens when they take a week off!

Thus my response in #692.

FWIW, in my experience, some of the most religiously intolerant people around these days are atheists.

The correlation may have multiple explanations, but people pretending there is zero causality between intelligence and not believing in magic are almost always just putting up a wall of cognitive dissonance to help justify said belief in magic.

I strongly belief everyone should be free to believe whatever they want, but I'm certainly not going to take anyone seriously who believes they can talk to a man in the sky. If that's your definition of intolerance, so be it.