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02-25-2018 , 04:01 AM

#376

Yeti

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i’m surprised the grandma didn’t give her a cardigan and ask her to cover up

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03-01-2018 , 08:41 PM

#377

JudgeHoldem

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Mike V looked very unhealthy

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03-02-2018 , 11:54 AM

#378

gna

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wow thought he was favorite to win it all. very surprised he got the boot...

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03-02-2018 , 04:05 PM

#379

txdome

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It is pretty stupid that past dishes/competitions don't factor in to whether or not you are going to be "top chef".

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03-02-2018 , 04:08 PM

#380

JudgeHoldem

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Originally Posted by txdome

It is pretty stupid that past dishes/competitions don't factor in to whether or not you are going to be "top chef".

I get what you are saying but surely they do to get you that far. I don't ever recall someone just sneaking their way to the final luckily. The show seems to get it right. Also, think the judges do (against the "rules") use past performance sometimes in how they critique the current challenge.

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03-02-2018 , 06:48 PM

#381

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Originally Posted by txdome

It is pretty stupid that past dishes/competitions don't factor in to whether or not you are going to be "top chef".

I like Adrienne's arc as an argument against this. She would probably have one of the worst full season results of any winner, but I think she legitimately improved and found her identity as a chef during the season. There have also been chefs who definitely declined during the competition.

The New York Times made a really well-done video on Adrienne a couple years ago that is pretty interesting to watch now. Seems like she's answering a lot of the questions she had about herself and her future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=undnQA4so6w

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03-02-2018 , 10:03 PM

#382

zikzak

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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem

iirc, in early seasons they would openly weigh a chef's past performance at judge's table, and other incidentals as well. The official rule of being judged solely on that challenge is more recent, and obviously gets disregarded to some degree. Humans aren't capable of being that impartial even if they try.

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03-03-2018 , 12:25 AM

#383

revots33

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Interesting disclaimer at the end of this week's episode, saying judges discuss their decisions with the producers and that Bravo network has a say. Perhaps they show that disclaimer every week but I never noticed it before. Certainly makes you think that, at the very least, the judges aren't the sole arbiters of who goes home... it is in the network's interest to keep the more interesting personalities around.

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03-03-2018 , 12:30 AM

#384

txdome

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I don't think there is any doubt that the black mixed race chick who has "found herself" through the competition is a lock over fat whitey guy.

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03-03-2018 , 01:20 AM

#385

Nootka

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Originally Posted by zikzak

that's not how i remember it. pretty sure tom has always made a big deal about judging only on that night's dish. curious how others remember earlier seasons.

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03-03-2018 , 01:38 AM

#386

zikzak

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I could definitely be wrong about that. Anybody else have memories of the early years? I think I started watching the show around S3.

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03-03-2018 , 10:06 AM

#387

DoctorZangief

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From the first episode it was obvious that the producers just put through whoever they wanted and you guys looking for rule clarification is a little bit adorable.

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03-03-2018 , 07:24 PM

#388

Yeti

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this is an interesting read. for example i had no idea that on the episode we just watched, every chef from the season is there cooking. that makes complete sense, i just never considered it.

https://www.refinery29.com/2018/03/1...-15-episode-13

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Originally Posted by Nootka

pretty sure tom has always made a big deal about judging only on that night's dish.

he has, and so has bourdain.

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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief

From the first episode it was obvious that the producers just put through whoever they wanted and you guys looking for rule clarification is a little bit adorable.

annoying post that is likely wrong to at least some degree

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03-05-2018 , 10:57 PM

#389

Suigin406

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Interesting article, makes sense.

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03-09-2018 , 06:41 PM

#390

trontron

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solid finale.
surprised by the winner, imho the general judges feedback sounded better for adrienne. joe's meat in the 3rd dish seemed to have the biggest error.

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03-10-2018 , 12:03 AM

#391

housenuts

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I was very surprised too. Seemed Adrienne would win in a landslide.

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03-10-2018 , 09:10 PM

#392

REDeYeS00

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Originally Posted by trontron

solid finale.
surprised by the winner, imho the general judges feedback sounded better for adrienne. joe's meat in the 3rd dish seemed to have the biggest error.

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Originally Posted by housenuts

I was very surprised too. Seemed Adrienne would win in a landslide.

i actually thought joe would win because of how much the judges seemed to praise adrienne's dishes....classic reality show editing rope-a-dope.

but i thought adrienne should win because IMO goofing up the protein your main course should be 5x as bad as pretty much any other goof in any other course.

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03-10-2018 , 09:44 PM

#393

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It felt really close and I wanted to eat all the food. Was pulling for Adrienne but I think either was a cool/worthy champ.

Have to chuckle at the "producers rig it" conspiracy theorists ITT... there's no way the producers wanted Joe to win. But the show really is about the food, and I'm glad that is what informed their final choice. I hope Adrienne comes back for another season at some point.

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03-10-2018 , 09:51 PM

#394

REDeYeS00

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not saying the producers rig it, just saying the scenes are intentionally eddited to make you think one thing is going to happen when in the end something else does.

it is rare that a reality show of any kind is edited in a way that leads the audience to think they know exactly what is going to happen before it happens.

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03-10-2018 , 09:56 PM

#395

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88

not saying the producers rig it, just saying they intentionally edit the scenes to make you think one thing is going to happen when in the end something else does.

it is rare that a reality show of any kind is edited in a way that leads the audience to think they know exactly what is going to happen before it happens.

Oh yeah, I was talking about someone a few posts back who mentioned that "the producers put through whoever they wanted." I probably should have quoted but got lazy.

The editing is definitely something they do and I don't really have a problem with it. Just have to watch it with a grain of salt. Especially in a finale, they're rarely going to make it clear who won.

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03-10-2018 , 11:29 PM

#396

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Originally Posted by SarcasticRat

+1. She also was giving off the feeling that her cooking could really start to take off in a big way. It would be pretty cool to see her come back even stronger ala CJ or Blais.

As it is, aren't we overdue for a pure all-stars season again? We've had the lone one with some past contestants sprinkled in.

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03-11-2018 , 12:56 AM

#397

zikzak

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Katsuji vs Fabio - HU4LOLz

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03-12-2018 , 12:10 AM

#398

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Good season, liked the Colorado setting and almost all the chefs seemed like very cool, nice people. Food seemed solid but not spectacular. No chefs stood out to me as particularly amazing or groundbreaking. Didn't really care who won the finale, liked them both and they seemed pretty equal talent-wise. Made it a little anti-climactic, but still enjoyable.

Didn't think it was possible but Padma looked even better this season.